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Internationalization WG Teleconference

31 Mar 2010

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
Regrets
Chair
Addison Phillips
Scribe
Addison Phillips

Contents


<scribe> Scribe: Addison Phillips

<scribe> ScribeNick: aphillip

<David> just noticed on the agenda: Time : 18:30 UTC !!!

<David> should be 16:30

<David> How are you addison?

<David> hello Norbert

Minutes and Agenda review

Action Items

Richard: respond on our behalf to CSS on ruby issue

discussions going on about html5 markup

until settled, can't do anything about this

kill issue as stale for now

addison: follow up on Issue-88 on March 23 with HTML-WG

<scribe> done

see response from paul

all: review the bidi note document, sending comments as appropriate, by next teleconference (17 March)

stale

addison: make additional call on email for input on telecon time, suggesting current time if no objections??
... prepare blurb on -u- extension for i18n homepage

to be done on time

(publication coming today)

Info Share

richard: new twitter channel (webi18n) dedicated to our group

s/web-i18n/webi18n/

scribe: and announcements (such as addison's -u- announcement) will go out on it

richard: started working on i18n checker
... trying to make it look like "mobile ok" checker as much as possible
... will try to have something done by 1 June

<r12a> http://rishida.net/tools/i18nchecker/

Issue-88 discussion

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-international/2010JanMar/0159.html

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2010JanMar/0116.html

http://dev.w3.org/html5/status/issue-status.html

http://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Htmlissue88

<r12a> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2010Mar/0032.html

Hixie's: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2010Mar/0032.html

not clear on how we actually proceed

"For meta elements with an http-equiv attribute in the Content Language state, the content attribute must have a value consisting of one or more valid BCP 47 language codes, separated by spaces. [BCP47]"

richard: new algorithm: if multiple values, then stop with no value
... but text still says...
... @lang has priority, so we're all set, except for that one sentence

<scribe> ACTION: richard: write to html-wg expressing support for editor's changes and pointing out the oversight in description of <meta> C-L's structure [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/03/31-core-minutes.html#action01]

richard: we also asked for additional note about difference between @lang and C-L
... spec says if you have C-L and no @lang, then a warning should be issued
... this could be good text for the warning
... either include our text in spec; or suggest as the note in the warning; or just put it into our documentation set
... consider for the markup document
... won't insist but will suggest for markup document

per group: make it so

norbert: language codes -> language tags

Calendaring API

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2010JanMar/0096.html

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2010JanMar/0099.html

richard: spoke to some Korean folks at AC and they showed me Korean traditional calendar on an iPhone
... and ability to flip between them

<scribe> ACTION: Norbert: respond to DAP WG with a more comprehensive description of the problem of converting calendars and invite further conversation (shared telecon ??) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/03/31-core-minutes.html#action02]

Bidi WG Note progress

richard: Aharon did provide a list of issues
... but only to me
... will reply and ask for it to go to list

AOB?

Marcos Caceres and widgets P&C

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2010JanMar/0114.html

[[ Note: Implementations intending to display IRIs and IDNA addresses found in the configuration document are strongly encouraged to follow the security advice given in [UTR36]. This could include, for example, behaving as if the dir attribute had no effect on any IRI attributes, path attributes, and the author element's email attribute. ]]

addison: maybe "as if the dir attribute had no effect" => "as if the dir attribute were 'lro'"

<scribe> ACTION: Addison: write to html-wg after richard's note is sent asking for process clarification [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/03/31-core-minutes.html#action03]

<r12a> s/eastern/Easter/

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: Addison: write to html-wg after richard's note is sent asking for process clarification [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/03/31-core-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: Norbert: respond to DAP WG with a more comprehensive description of the problem of converting calendars and invite further conversation (shared telecon ??) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/03/31-core-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: richard: write to html-wg expressing support for editor's changes and pointing out the oversight in description of <meta> C-L's structure [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/03/31-core-minutes.html#action01]
 
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