W3C

Mobile Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference

30 Mar 2010

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
tomhume, francois, miguel, adam, EdC, DKA, Kai_Dietrich, jo, jeffs
Regrets
SeanP, Yeliz
Chair
Jo
Scribe
Kai

Contents


Mobile Web Application Best Practices

adam: there have been some responses.

<francois> Implementation report so far

adam: we need more implementation reports from people. Most have been from Google.
... we need two for each BP

tomhume: we'll do one

DKA: already sent ours in

Jo: another one? How about it?
... any others?
... Francois, outreach to others?

francois: not sure who to ask.
... there are many web apps that could be used

adam: there was some called [?] who was going to do something

<EdC> What about operators like ATT and Vodafone? Could they simply ask the contributors to on-deck applications to fill in the questionnaire?

jo: what about EdC suggestion?

DKA: is a good idea. I'll follow up.

francois: what about betavine?

<jo> ACTION: Appelquist to see if on-deck apps and betavine could be a source of implementation reports [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/03/30-bpwg-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-1043 - See if on-deck apps and betavine could be a source of implementation reports [on Daniel Appelquist - due 2010-04-06].

Guidelines for Web Content Transformation Proxies

francois: we are done with last call
... there have been no non-editorial comments

<francois> Comments on Last Call

francois: Last reviewers have not replied to our own reply but then we would be done with LC period
... we have no one working on the test suite now
... so we will probably not have a test suite for this spec before the end of the charter
... the best option would be to publish as CR and leave it at that for the moment.

Jo: then we should do that
... SeanP was going to work on the test suite

DKA: we could recharter just to do the test suite

jo: we should get CR as soon as possible
... let's see what Sean says

DKA: i think our best chance is Nokia

jo: let's see what Sean says

EdC: there is a small probability that publishing a formal CR might push other organizations to contribute (even partially) to a test suite.
... it might entice them

jo: it seems like the next step anyways
... Francois, please contact previous commenters

<francois> ACTION: francois to ping previous reviewers on third last call of CT [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/03/30-bpwg-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-1044 - Ping previous reviewers on third last call of CT [on François Daoust - due 2010-04-06].

<EdC> Yes, let us move forward.

jo: next call we could ask for transition

[all agree verbally]

<jo> ACTION: JO to enact LC-2377 and LC-2377 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/03/30-bpwg-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-1045 - Enact LC-2377 and LC-2377 [on Jo Rabin - due 2010-04-06].

Jo: anything else on CT?
... AOB?

DKA: should mention informal feedback of the TAG on CT
... we got into a confusion around sniffing....there has been a lot of talk about this in TAG
... because it has also been coming up in IETF
... CT was discussed it became clear that CT and sniffing are related

(scribe can't hear)

scribe: discussion came up why 203 code wasn't used.
... we didn't take it further
... I believe we didn't have discussion on this
... I was asked why we didn't ref work out of IETF
... Larry M. pointed out that this work has been going on in IETF since our work began
... work related to CT

<francois> RFC3238

scribe: what was our view on OPES?
... was it tangential?

Jo: no, but it wasn't actionable.

<EdC> This is the intent of RFC3238: "This memo provides information for the Internet community. It does

<EdC> not specify an Internet standard of any kind. Distribution of this

<EdC> memo is unlimited."

DKA: we need to get clarification from TAG or do research about latest results on OPES.

jo: why don't you talk to Larry to get that info?

<jo> ACTION: Dan to ask Larry Masinter for Chapter and Verse on IETF work that may be more recent than RFC 3238 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/03/30-bpwg-minutes.html#action04]

(typing is very loud)

<trackbot> Created ACTION-1046 - Ask Larry Masinter for Chapter and Verse on IETF work that may be more recent than RFC 3238 [on Daniel Appelquist - due 2010-04-06].

Jo: please proceed with previous plan and request transition to CR
... on 203.... it is not referred to under transform section. Can somebody offer justification for the point of view?
... we might get some question about this not being in the RFC
... anybody want to investigate the 203 status?

<DKA> +1 to considering it discussed

Jo: anybody?
... it's been discussed

DKA: for a resolution somebody needs to take an action to do proper research on how 203 has been used

francois: i can take an action to have an informal discussion with Yves who might have something to say on this, given his involvement in the HTTP Bis work

<jo> ACTION: francois to discuss status code 203 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/03/30-bpwg-minutes.html#action05]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-1047 - Discuss status code 203 [on François Daoust - due 2010-04-06].

DKA: that would be good

jo: if we could bring these actions in by next week, then would could ask for transition to CR
... any more?
... closing the call

<tomhume> bye

DKA: regrets for next two weeks

<DKA> I will work towards get the result of my action sent in on email.

<DKA> ciao

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: Appelquist to see if on-deck apps and betavine could be a source of implementation reports [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/03/30-bpwg-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: Dan to ask Larry Masinter for Chapter and Verse on IETF work that may be more recent than RFC 3238 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/03/30-bpwg-minutes.html#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: francois to discuss status code 203 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/03/30-bpwg-minutes.html#action05]
[NEW] ACTION: francois to ping previous reviewers on third last call of CT [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/03/30-bpwg-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: JO to enact LC-2377 and LC-2377 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/03/30-bpwg-minutes.html#action03]
 
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