<scribe> Scribe: Addison Phillips

<scribe> ScribeNick: aphillip

<r12a> felix, the code is I18N - have you forgotten already ? ;-)

Minutes and Agenda review

richard: agenda+ ICU

Action Items

Richard: respond on our behalf to CSS on ruby issue

all: review HTML5 (rolling action item to be reviewed weekly)

Dan: update draft to support option C for specifying preferences in ws-i18n

richard: publish FPWD of Bidi WG-Note and complete all transreq requirements pertaining thereto

<scribe> DONE as of tomorrow

Info Share

welcome back Norbert

richard: css wg is currently discussing i18n-related stuff
... one is fonts
... one is start/end for floats for bidi
... (rather than left/right)
... text transform (capitalization)
... their next meeting starts in about 20 minutes
... with links to stuff
... look at the css-wg list

<r12a> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-css-wg/2010JanMar/0083.html (member only)

richard: seems that html5 japanese interest group is interested in doing ruby stuff
... don't reference any of our documents about ruby

HTML Issue-88

richard: html chairs sent request for alternative proposals
... haven't seen any response
... not response from Hixie on our official message of last week
... maybe leave one more week before we ping for progress?

<scribe> ACTION: addison: if no news by next tuesday, ping HTML5 chairs for progress on Issue-88 call for alternatives [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/03/03-core-minutes.html#action01]

Bidi WG Note progress

richard: situation is that have submitted transreq
... it's accepted
... will be published tomorrow
... then we do two things
... 1. bidi experts send feedback on public-i18n-bidi
... also redirect fantasai and najib
... 2. send note to html5 saying "please don't review yet"

<scribe> ACTION: addison: send note to html5 informing them of the document but asking not to review just yet [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/03/03-core-minutes.html#action02]

richard: paulc sent us note, asking when can finish the bidi note so mstf can get to it

the UBA was for plain text

andrewc: ... implementation in markup environment is flawed
... examples show that markup not behaving as desired/preceived to

richard: dir on span doesn't solve the problem on the example (#2??)
... proposes markup to fill gaps
... idea is to say "is functioniong properly, but something else is needed here"

norbert: some comments from roozbeh

public-i18n-bidi@w3.org

<fsasaki> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-bidi/

ITS & Widgets P&C

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2010JanMar/0044.html

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2010JanMar/0043.html

addison: (summary)

richard: did we ask them to add 'dir' on top-level?

addison: marco suggested to put on every element and I suggested that it go on top element with inheritance

richard: needs help on examples
... I will help with that
... they also define empty value for dir
... do bdi in next version?

<r12a> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-bidi/

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2010JanMar/0045.html

<name dir="ltr">foo</name>

&#x202D;foo&#x202C;

<p> $1</p>

richard help with examples, addison compose a response

AOB?

ICU

we have a thing called unicorn and someone wants to localize to Telugu

scribe: but no Telegu locale
... in Java

Norbert: locale data or rendering

<r12a> http://qa-dev.w3.org/unicorn/translations

AOB?

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Found Scribe: Addison Phillips
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Regrets: Aharon
Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2010Mar/0010.html
Got date from IRC log name: 03 Mar 2010
Guessing minutes URL: http://www.w3.org/2010/03/03-core-minutes.html
People with action items: addison note send