14:01:52 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2010/08/26-rdfa-irc
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14:01:54 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
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14:01:56 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 7332
Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, this will be 7332 ←
14:01:56 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_RDFa()10:00AM scheduled to start now
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, trackbot; I see SW_RDFa()10:00AM scheduled to start now ←
14:01:57 <trackbot> Meeting: RDFa Working Group Teleconference
14:01:57 <trackbot> Date: 26 August 2010
14:02:00 <manu> zakim, code?
Manu Sporny: zakim, code? ←
14:02:00 <Zakim> the conference code is 7332 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.26.46.79.03 tel:+44.203.318.0479), manu
Zakim IRC Bot: the conference code is 7332 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.26.46.79.03 tel:+44.203.318.0479), manu ←
14:02:06 <Steven> zakim, dial steven-617
Steven Pemberton: zakim, dial steven-617 ←
14:02:11 <Zakim> ok, Steven; the call is being made
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, Steven; the call is being made ←
14:02:13 <Zakim> SW_RDFa()10:00AM has now started
Zakim IRC Bot: SW_RDFa()10:00AM has now started ←
14:02:17 <Zakim> +Steven
Zakim IRC Bot: +Steven ←
14:02:24 <Steven> zakim, who is here?
Steven Pemberton: zakim, who is here? ←
14:02:37 <Zakim> On the phone I see Steven
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Steven ←
14:02:45 <manu> uhh... I'm pretty sure I joined too?
Manu Sporny: uhh... I'm pretty sure I joined too? ←
14:02:53 <Zakim> On IRC I see csarven, RRSAgent, Benjamin, manu, kennyluck, Steven, ivan, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see csarven, RRSAgent, Benjamin, manu, kennyluck, Steven, ivan, trackbot ←
14:02:59 <Zakim> +manu
Zakim IRC Bot: +manu ←
14:03:01 <ivan> zakim, dial ivan-voip
Ivan Herman: zakim, dial ivan-voip ←
14:03:12 <Zakim> ok, ivan; the call is being made
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, ivan; the call is being made ←
14:03:16 <Zakim> +Ivan
Zakim IRC Bot: +Ivan ←
14:04:09 <Benjamin> argh, the french number doesn't work
Benjamin Adrian: argh, the french number doesn't work ←
14:05:12 <manu> manu has changed the topic to: RDFa telecon Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2010Aug/0154.html (manu)
Manu Sporny: manu has changed the topic to: RDFa telecon Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2010Aug/0154.html (manu) ←
14:05:28 <manu> zakim, who is on the call?
Manu Sporny: zakim, who is on the call? ←
14:05:28 <Zakim> On the phone I see Steven, manu, Ivan
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Steven, manu, Ivan ←
14:05:42 <Benjamin> uk number is busy
Benjamin Adrian: uk number is busy ←
14:06:22 <Steven> zakim, ports?
Steven Pemberton: zakim, ports? ←
14:06:22 <Zakim> I see 92 ports in service, 51 ports idle
Zakim IRC Bot: I see 92 ports in service, 51 ports idle ←
14:07:05 <Benjamin> Strange, the connection to the french number breaks after a few seconds.
Benjamin Adrian: Strange, the connection to the french number breaks after a few seconds. ←
14:07:34 <Zakim> +??P37
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P37 ←
14:08:01 <manu> zakim, who is on the call?
Manu Sporny: zakim, who is on the call? ←
14:08:01 <Zakim> On the phone I see Steven, manu, Ivan, ??P37
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Steven, manu, Ivan, ??P37 ←
14:08:03 <Zakim> +ShaneM
Zakim IRC Bot: +ShaneM ←
14:08:07 <Benjamin> zakim, ??P37 is Benjamin
Benjamin Adrian: zakim, ??P37 is Benjamin ←
14:08:07 <Zakim> +Benjamin; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Benjamin; got it ←
14:08:59 <ShaneM> zakim, who is here?
Shane McCarron: zakim, who is here? ←
14:08:59 <Zakim> On the phone I see Steven, manu, Ivan, Benjamin, ShaneM
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Steven, manu, Ivan, Benjamin, ShaneM ←
14:09:00 <Zakim> On IRC I see ShaneM, Zakim, csarven, RRSAgent, Benjamin, manu, Steven, ivan, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see ShaneM, Zakim, csarven, RRSAgent, Benjamin, manu, Steven, ivan, trackbot ←
14:09:25 <ivan> scribe: ivan
(Scribe set to Ivan Herman)
14:09:31 <ivan> scribenick: ivan
14:09:35 <manu> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2010Aug/0154.html
14:10:33 <ivan> manu: any addition to the agenda?
Manu Sporny: any addition to the agenda? ←
14:10:39 <ivan> (stunned silence...)
(stunned silence...) ←
14:10:43 <ivan> Topic: ISSUE-28: Nathan's reported RDFa API Errors and Omissions
14:10:53 <manu> http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/track/issues/28
Manu Sporny: http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/track/issues/28 ←
14:11:08 <ivan> manu: we went over the first 1 1/2 emails
Manu Sporny: we went over the first 1 1/2 emails ←
14:11:10 <manu> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2010Jun/0069.html
Manu Sporny: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2010Jun/0069.html ←
14:11:13 <ivan> ... pick up where we left off
... pick up where we left off ←
14:11:31 <ivan> ... we got through the set mapping call comment
... we got through the set mapping call comment ←
14:11:47 <ivan> ... we disagreed with him, we want the js interface to pass around strings most of the time
... we disagreed with him, we want the js interface to pass around strings most of the time ←
14:12:09 <manu> DataContext ::setMapping ("foaf", "http://xmlns.com/0.1/foaf/");
Manu Sporny: DataContext ::setMapping ("foaf", "http://xmlns.com/0.1/foaf/"); ←
14:12:17 <manu> DataContext ::setMapping ("foaf", new IRI("http://xmlns.com/0.1/foaf/"));
Manu Sporny: DataContext ::setMapping ("foaf", new IRI("http://xmlns.com/0.1/foaf/")); ←
14:12:20 <ivan> nathan wanted to do the second
nathan wanted to do the second ←
14:12:47 <manu> DataContext ::setMapping ("foaf", document.data.createIRI("http://xmlns.com/0.1/foaf/"));
Manu Sporny: DataContext ::setMapping ("foaf", document.data.createIRI("http://xmlns.com/0.1/foaf/")); ←
14:12:49 <ivan> manu: we got complaints from people that creating IRIs that way is a bad idea
Manu Sporny: we got complaints from people that creating IRIs that way is a bad idea ←
14:12:53 <manu> DataContext ::setMapping ("foaf", "http://xmlns.com/0.1/foaf/");
Manu Sporny: DataContext ::setMapping ("foaf", "http://xmlns.com/0.1/foaf/"); ←
14:12:58 <ivan> so we have to change to something like the one above
so we have to change to something like the one above ←
14:13:12 <ivan> manu: so we would prefer to stick with what is in the spec
Manu Sporny: so we would prefer to stick with what is in the spec ←
14:13:21 <ivan> (no disagreements)
(no disagreements) ←
14:13:50 <ivan> manu: the other issue is in one of the webidl desc we have to pass a string (iterate call)
Manu Sporny: the other issue is in one of the webidl desc we have to pass a string (iterate call) ←
14:14:07 <manu> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2010Aug/0001.html
Manu Sporny: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2010Aug/0001.html ←
14:14:24 <ivan> this is the email response to nathan
this is the email response to nathan ←
14:14:44 <manu> http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/sources/rdfa-api/#data-parser
Manu Sporny: http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/sources/rdfa-api/#data-parser ←
14:15:08 <ivan> manu: we actually changed the iterator to a completely different pattern, so actually that is a non-issue for now
Manu Sporny: we actually changed the iterator to a completely different pattern, so actually that is a non-issue for now ←
14:15:30 <ivan> ... which benjamin, mark and I have discussed
... which benjamin, mark and I have discussed ←
14:15:34 <ivan> ... but no response on that yet
... but no response on that yet ←
14:15:39 <Benjamin> +1
Benjamin Adrian: +1 ←
14:16:06 <ivan> 0
0 ←
14:16:14 <Steven> 0
14:16:41 <ivan> manu: nathan's last comment that the type of the parser cannot be set
Manu Sporny: nathan's last comment that the type of the parser cannot be set ←
14:17:08 <ivan> ... we had some discussions about that, we think that the data parser interface needs a hasfeature call
... we had some discussions about that, we think that the data parser interface needs a hasfeature call ←
14:17:35 <manu> http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/track/issues/43
Manu Sporny: http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/track/issues/43 ←
14:17:45 <ivan> ... this is now tracked separately in that issue 43
... this is now tracked separately in that ISSUE-43 ←
14:17:51 <ivan> ... so we can move on
... so we can move on ←
14:18:00 <manu> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2010Jun/0065.html
Manu Sporny: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2010Jun/0065.html ←
14:18:10 <ivan> (next email of nathan)
(next email of nathan) ←
14:18:33 <ivan> manu: he thinks that it should not be restricted to the dom
Manu Sporny: he thinks that it should not be restricted to the dom ←
14:18:43 <ivan> ... we have concensus that this is what we try to do
... we have concensus that this is what we try to do ←
14:18:54 <ivan> ... ie, that the the api can be implemented in a non-dom environment
... ie, that the the api can be implemented in a non-dom environment ←
14:18:55 <ivan> q+
q+ ←
14:19:10 <ivan> ... this came up at the SWCG call yesterday
... this came up at the SWCG call yesterday ←
14:19:35 <manu> ack ivan
Manu Sporny: ack ivan ←
14:19:38 <ivan> ... they would like to see the RDFa api be more general, because it can be used in more general setting, too
... they would like to see the RDFa api be more general, because it can be used in more general setting, too ←
14:21:11 <ivan> ivan: the webidl document has mapping on javascript and java only
Ivan Herman: the webidl document has mapping on javascript and java only ←
14:21:25 <ivan> ... what about python, for example?
... what about python, for example? ←
14:21:57 <manu> Ivan: I'm concerned that WebIDL doesn't have a mapping to Python
Ivan Herman: I'm concerned that WebIDL doesn't have a mapping to Python [ Scribe Assist by Manu Sporny ] ←
14:22:13 <manu> Ivan: it's not clear how to map the indexed setter/getter WebIDL stuff to Python.
Ivan Herman: it's not clear how to map the indexed setter/getter WebIDL stuff to Python. [ Scribe Assist by Manu Sporny ] ←
14:22:29 <manu> Ivan: We could implement it in Python, but it's fuzzy.
Ivan Herman: We could implement it in Python, but it's fuzzy. [ Scribe Assist by Manu Sporny ] ←
14:22:47 <manu> Ivan: I think we should simply say that we will not necessarily seek implementations in languages other than Java and Javascript.
Ivan Herman: I think we should simply say that we will not necessarily seek implementations in languages other than Java and Javascript. [ Scribe Assist by Manu Sporny ] ←
14:23:02 <manu> Ivan: We can only specify this for languages that have WebIDL mappings.
Ivan Herman: We can only specify this for languages that have WebIDL mappings. [ Scribe Assist by Manu Sporny ] ←
14:23:23 <manu> Ivan: I don't think that what Sandro said was that we should have a general API for all RDF languages... that's way beyond what we could/should do.
Ivan Herman: I don't think that what Sandro said was that we should have a general API for all RDF languages... that's way beyond what we could/should do. [ Scribe Assist by Manu Sporny ] ←
14:23:46 <manu> Ivan: He said, if I am a Javascript programmer, then the API in our document should be general enough to know what I should do in Javascript.
Ivan Herman: He said, if I am a Javascript programmer, then the API in our document should be general enough to know what I should do in Javascript. [ Scribe Assist by Manu Sporny ] ←
14:24:04 <manu> Ivan: We may not need to think about Scala, Ruby, etc.
Ivan Herman: We may not need to think about Scala, Ruby, etc. [ Scribe Assist by Manu Sporny ] ←
14:24:23 <ivan> ShaneM: it was my impression that webidl is only an expansion of omg's idl
Shane McCarron: it was my impression that webidl is only an expansion of omg's idl ←
14:24:35 <manu> Shane: It was my impression that WebIDL is just an expansion of OMG of IDL... so I was under the impression that anybody that could map anything... it's an abstraction.
Shane McCarron: It was my impression that WebIDL is just an expansion of OMG of IDL... so I was under the impression that anybody that could map anything... it's an abstraction. [ Scribe Assist by Manu Sporny ] ←
14:24:41 <manu> Shane: It's more guidance than anything.
Shane McCarron: It's more guidance than anything. [ Scribe Assist by Manu Sporny ] ←
14:24:42 <ivan> ... i got the impression that there is no need for an official lang binding
... i got the impression that there is no need for an official lang binding ←
14:24:58 <ivan> ... having said that I do not know how we will test this, i am not sure i care
... having said that I do not know how we will test this, i am not sure i care ←
14:25:05 <manu> Shane: Having said that, I don't really care... it's going to be difficult to test it in Javascript
Shane McCarron: Having said that, I don't really care... it's going to be difficult to test it in Javascript [ Scribe Assist by Manu Sporny ] ←
14:25:11 <ivan> ... so rely on what they do there
... so rely on what they do there ←
14:25:27 <Benjamin> How is the DOM API implemented in the different languages?
Benjamin Adrian: How is the DOM API implemented in the different languages? ←
14:25:33 <ivan> ... we use webidl normatively
... we use webidl normatively ←
14:25:39 <ivan> ... and we have a process question
... and we have a process question ←
14:26:01 <manu> ACTION: Ivan to find out if we can use WebIDL normatively.
ACTION: Ivan to find out if we can use WebIDL normatively. ←
14:26:02 <trackbot> Created ACTION-36 - Find out if we can use WebIDL normatively. [on Ivan Herman - due 2010-09-02].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-36 - Find out if we can use WebIDL normatively. [on Ivan Herman - due 2010-09-02]. ←
14:26:43 <ivan> manu: what is the concensus on this now?
Manu Sporny: what is the concensus on this now? ←
14:27:01 <ivan> ... we use webidl is because we want to have portable javascript implementations?
... we use webidl is because we want to have portable javascript implementations? ←
14:27:21 <ivan> ... if there are interoperability issues with python, then please send the comments to the group
... if there are interoperability issues with python, then please send the comments to the group ←
14:30:47 <ShaneM> I think we need to idenitfy all of the ecmascript interface signatures so we can write tests.
Shane McCarron: I think we need to idenitfy all of the ecmascript interface signatures so we can write tests. ←
14:31:31 <ivan> manu: feedback to the community: do your best, and if a mapping is unclear, contact the group...
Manu Sporny: feedback to the community: do your best, and if a mapping is unclear, contact the group... ←
14:32:01 <ivan> ivan: we should decide whether we will test in javascript _and_ in java or only javascript
Ivan Herman: we should decide whether we will test in javascript _and_ in java or only javascript ←
14:32:10 <ivan> manu: I would prefer to focus on Javascript only
Manu Sporny: I would prefer to focus on Javascript only ←
14:32:13 <ivan> ivan: agreed
Ivan Herman: agreed ←
14:32:18 <manu> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2010Jun/0065.html
Manu Sporny: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2010Jun/0065.html ←
14:32:30 <ivan> (yet another mail of nathan)
(yet another mail of nathan) ←
14:32:52 <ivan> the subject/origin concern
the subject/origin concern ←
14:32:59 <ivan> manu: we changed the the api now
Manu Sporny: we changed the the api now ←
14:33:05 <manu> 3) ISSUE-29: DOM origin generalization (on Manu) http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/track/issues/29
Manu Sporny: 3) ISSUE-29: DOM origin generalization (on Manu) http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/track/issues/29 ←
14:33:33 <ivan> but there is a separate issue on that one
but there is a separate issue on that one ←
14:33:54 <manu> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2010Jun/0087.html
Manu Sporny: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2010Jun/0087.html ←
14:34:21 <manu> reponse to that e-mail: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2010Aug/0005.html
Manu Sporny: reponse to that e-mail: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2010Aug/0005.html ←
14:35:29 <ShaneM> Note - There is an OMG IDL to Python mapping at http://www.omg.org/spec/PYTH/1.2/PDF/
Shane McCarron: Note - There is an OMG IDL to Python mapping at http://www.omg.org/spec/PYTH/1.2/PDF/ ←
14:36:18 <ivan> manu: go through the points of nathan
Manu Sporny: go through the points of nathan ←
14:36:36 <ivan> ... 1st issue is a typo, clear
... 1st issue is a typo, clear ←
14:36:52 <ivan> ... 2nd on curie resolution, question is how the api resolves curies
... 2nd on curie resolution, question is how the api resolves curies ←
14:37:12 <ivan> ... the document has a default context and when a curie is resolved this is what is used
... the document has a default context and when a curie is resolved this is what is used ←
14:37:25 <ivan> ... but we did not allow the context to be changed, but we do that now
... but we did not allow the context to be changed, but we do that now ←
14:38:27 <ivan> ... 3rd for registered type conversion, the same issue, same answer...
... 3rd for registered type conversion, the same issue, same answer... ←
14:39:10 <ivan> ... also, there was also no way to programatically resolve a curie, that was an oversight on our side
... also, there was also no way to programatically resolve a curie, that was an oversight on our side ←
14:39:17 <manu> http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/sources/rdfa-api/#data-context
Manu Sporny: http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/sources/rdfa-api/#data-context ←
14:39:25 <ivan> ShaneM: that can only be used in a context
Shane McCarron: that can only be used in a context ←
14:39:30 <ivan> manu: exactly
Manu Sporny: exactly ←
14:40:31 <ivan> ... 3rd for typed literal converter, and you really have to know webidl to really make things understood
... 3rd for typed literal converter, and you really have to know webidl to really make things understood ←
14:40:53 <ivan> ... benjamin would go through the document to add some examples on how to do to conversion properly
... benjamin would go through the document to add some examples on how to do to conversion properly ←
14:41:05 <ivan> benjamin: I can do that
Benjamin Adrian: I can do that ←
14:41:41 <manu> http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/track/issues/32
Manu Sporny: http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/track/issues/32 ←
14:42:59 <manu> document.data.registerTypeConversion("xsd:integer", function (value, targetType) { doSomething(); });
Manu Sporny: document.data.registerTypeConversion("xsd:integer", function (value, targetType) { doSomething(); }); ←
14:43:21 <ivan> (example to register a type conversion method)
(example to register a type conversion method) ←
14:43:52 <ivan> manu: 4th was a bug on the create store method
Manu Sporny: 4th was a bug on the create store method ←
14:44:11 <ivan> ... the bug was that the parameter should have been optional
... the bug was that the parameter should have been optional ←
14:44:27 <ivan> ... and text was added as an explanation
... and text was added as an explanation ←
14:44:41 <ivan> ... to be able to specify the type of store
... to be able to specify the type of store ←
14:45:04 <ivan> 5th issue, shouldn't a iri be used or a curie
5th issue, shouldn't a iri be used or a curie ←
14:45:17 <ivan> ... the answer was no, we wanted to have just an easy string based mechanism
... the answer was no, we wanted to have just an easy string based mechanism ←
14:45:40 <manu> http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/sources/rdfa-api/#document-data
Manu Sporny: http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/sources/rdfa-api/#document-data ←
14:45:41 <ivan> manu: 6th issue is how to create a new document data instance
Manu Sporny: 6th issue is how to create a new document data instance ←
14:45:57 <ivan> ... we have now a create mechanism, too, in the new version
... we have now a create mechanism, too, in the new version ←
14:46:00 <manu> http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/sources/rdfa-api/#document-extensions
Manu Sporny: http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/sources/rdfa-api/#document-extensions ←
14:46:31 <ivan> (the last entry has the extra call definition)
(the last entry has the extra call definition) ←
14:46:40 <ivan> manu: nathan is happy with the responses
Manu Sporny: nathan is happy with the responses ←
14:46:49 <ivan> ... we can then close the issue
... we can then close the issue ←
14:46:52 <ivan> ... thoughts?
... thoughts? ←
14:46:57 <ivan> (stunned silence again)
(stunned silence again) ←
14:47:13 <ivan> (everybody is happy... probably...)
(everybody is happy... probably...) ←
14:47:17 <manu> PROPOSED: Close ISSUE-28, the WG has reviewed and accepts all changes that have been made to the RDFa API document.
PROPOSED: Close ISSUE-28, the WG has reviewed and accepts all changes that have been made to the RDFa API document. ←
14:47:22 <ivan> +1
+1 ←
14:47:25 <Benjamin> +1
Benjamin Adrian: +1 ←
14:47:27 <manu> +1
Manu Sporny: +1 ←
14:47:48 <ShaneM> +1
Shane McCarron: +1 ←
14:47:50 <Steven> +1
Steven Pemberton: +1 ←
14:48:33 <manu> RESOLVED: Close ISSUE-28, the WG has reviewed and accepts all changes that have been made to the RDFa API document.
RESOLVED: Close ISSUE-28, the WG has reviewed and accepts all changes that have been made to the RDFa API document. ←
14:48:52 <ivan> Topic: ISSUE-29: RDFa API .origin property needs to be more carefully specified
14:49:00 <manu> http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/track/issues/29
Manu Sporny: http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/track/issues/29 ←
14:49:23 <ivan> manu: we need to be more careful about origin
Manu Sporny: we need to be more careful about origin ←
14:49:33 <manu> http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/sources/rdfa-api/#iri-references
Manu Sporny: http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/sources/rdfa-api/#iri-references ←
14:49:34 <ivan> ivan: we were trying to put extra weight on the basic objects
Ivan Herman: we were trying to put extra weight on the basic objects ←
14:49:53 <ivan> manu: current version do not have any reference to the origin
Manu Sporny: current version do not have any reference to the origin ←
14:50:20 <ivan> ... we've taken the origin off there
... we've taken the origin off there ←
14:50:25 <ivan> ... we put it on the property group object
... we put it on the property group object ←
14:50:31 <manu> http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/sources/rdfa-api/#property-group
Manu Sporny: http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/sources/rdfa-api/#property-group ←
14:51:08 <ivan> ... property group has the generic 'info' object
... property group has the generic 'info' object ←
14:52:03 <ivan> .. .the general idea is that you can query in the property group, if it is dom aware, the associated dom node
.. .the general idea is that you can query in the property group, if it is dom aware, the associated dom node ←
14:52:17 <ivan> ... the properties would have the source dom node in the group
... the properties would have the source dom node in the group ←
14:52:37 <manu> var pg = document.data.query.(...);
Manu Sporny: var pg = document.data.query.(...); ←
14:52:55 <manu> pg.info.get("foaf:name", "source");
Manu Sporny: pg.info.get("foaf:name", "source"); ←
14:53:18 <manu> pg.info.get("foaf:name", "source")[0];
Manu Sporny: pg.info.get("foaf:name", "source")[0]; ←
14:53:19 <manu> pg.info.get("foaf:name", "source")[1];
Manu Sporny: pg.info.get("foaf:name", "source")[1]; ←
14:53:41 <ivan> q+
q+ ←
14:55:25 <manu> ack ivan
Manu Sporny: ack ivan ←
14:55:39 <Benjamin> q+ to give an example
Benjamin Adrian: q+ to give an example ←
14:55:48 <manu> Ivan: Why do we have property groups again? I can get triples, I can filter those triples... what is the usage for property groups.
Ivan Herman: Why do we have property groups again? I can get triples, I can filter those triples... what is the usage for property groups. [ Scribe Assist by Manu Sporny ] ←
14:55:51 <manu> ack benjamin
Manu Sporny: ack benjamin ←
14:55:51 <Zakim> Benjamin, you wanted to give an example
Zakim IRC Bot: Benjamin, you wanted to give an example ←
14:58:19 <manu> var name = person.get("foaf:name");
Manu Sporny: var name = person.get("foaf:name"); ←
14:59:36 <manu> // creates a PropertyGroup for the given subject
Manu Sporny: // creates a PropertyGroup for the given subject ←
14:59:38 <manu> var person = document.getItemsBySubject("#bob");
Manu Sporny: var person = document.getItemsBySubject("#bob"); ←
14:59:39 <manu> // Access the property group attribute via complete IRI
Manu Sporny: // Access the property group attribute via complete IRI ←
14:59:41 <manu> var name = person.get("http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/name");
Manu Sporny: var name = person.get("http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/name"); ←
14:59:42 <manu> // Access the property group attribute via CURIE
Manu Sporny: // Access the property group attribute via CURIE ←
14:59:44 <manu> var name = person.get("foaf:name");
Manu Sporny: var name = person.get("foaf:name"); ←
15:00:07 <manu> var name = person.name;
Manu Sporny: var name = person.name; ←
15:01:37 <Benjamin> It can contain more than a single person, or?
Benjamin Adrian: It can contain more than a single person, or? ←
15:02:10 <manu> var person = document.getItemsBySubject("#bob")[0];
Manu Sporny: var person = document.getItemsBySubject("#bob")[0]; ←
15:03:08 <manu> person.info <--- that is a dictionary
Manu Sporny: person.info <--- that is a dictionary ←
15:03:21 <manu> person.info.get("foaf:name")
Manu Sporny: person.info.get("foaf:name") ←
15:03:29 <manu> person.info.get("foaf:name") <---- indexed by property
Manu Sporny: person.info.get("foaf:name") <---- indexed by property ←
15:03:56 <manu> person.info.get("foaf:name") ----> this would/could return an array
Manu Sporny: person.info.get("foaf:name") ----> this would/could return an array ←
15:04:07 <Benjamin> q+
Benjamin Adrian: q+ ←
15:04:12 <manu> person.info.get("foaf:name", "source") ----> this would/could return an array
Manu Sporny: person.info.get("foaf:name", "source") ----> this would/could return an array ←
15:04:35 <manu> person.info.get("foaf:name", "source")[0] ----> this would/could return the DOM Node
Manu Sporny: person.info.get("foaf:name", "source")[0] ----> this would/could return the DOM Node ←
15:04:44 <manu> ack benjamin
Manu Sporny: ack benjamin ←
15:04:48 <ivan> q+
q+ ←
15:06:00 <manu> ack ivan
Manu Sporny: ack ivan ←
15:06:04 <manu> attribute Object info;
Manu Sporny: attribute Object info; ←
15:06:44 <ShaneM> how about a presentation style that distinguishes a triple *object* from an IDL object?
Shane McCarron: how about a presentation style that distinguishes a triple *object* from an IDL object? ←
15:07:04 <manu> that might work, Shane.
Manu Sporny: that might work, Shane. ←
15:09:45 <Zakim> -Benjamin
Zakim IRC Bot: -Benjamin ←
15:11:45 <Zakim> -ShaneM
Zakim IRC Bot: -ShaneM ←
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This revision (#1) generated 2010-08-26 15:26:41 UTC by 'msporny', comments: 'Small cleanups and fixes.'