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13:42:37 <manu> trackbot, start meeting
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13:42:41 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 7332
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13:42:41 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_RDFa()10:00AM scheduled to start in 18 minutes
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13:42:42 <trackbot> Meeting: RDFa Working Group Teleconference
13:42:42 <trackbot> Date: 22 April 2010
13:43:43 <manu> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2010Apr/0094.html
13:43:54 <manu> Chair: Manu
13:49:56 <manu> Regrets: MarkB, JeffS, BenA, MarkusG
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13:59:25 <Zakim> +??P0
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13:59:28 <manu> zakim, I am ??P0
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13:59:28 <Zakim> +manu; got it
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13:59:39 <Zakim> + +1.978.692.aaaa
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14:00:07 <manu> Present: Ivan, Knud, Manu, RobW, Shane, Steven, Toby, Benjamin
14:00:09 <Zakim> + +03539149aabb
Zakim IRC Bot: + +03539149aabb ←
14:00:28 <Steven> zakim, dial steven-617
Steven Pemberton: zakim, dial steven-617 ←
14:00:33 <Zakim> ok, Steven; the call is being made
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, Steven; the call is being made ←
14:00:37 <Zakim> +Steven
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14:00:47 <Zakim> +ShaneM
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14:00:59 <manu> zakim, aaaa is RobW
Manu Sporny: zakim, aaaa is RobW ←
14:00:59 <Zakim> sorry, manu, I do not recognize a party named 'aaaa'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, manu, I do not recognize a party named 'aaaa' ←
14:01:11 <Zakim> +RobW; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +RobW; got it ←
14:01:25 <Zakim> +[MIT528]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[MIT528] ←
14:01:51 <manu> zakim, who is on the call?
Manu Sporny: zakim, who is on the call? ←
14:01:51 <Zakim> On the phone I see manu, RobW, +03539149aabb (muted), Steven, ShaneM, [MIT528] (muted)
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see manu, RobW, +03539149aabb (muted), Steven, ShaneM, [MIT528] (muted) ←
14:01:54 <Zakim> + +49.631.205.7.aacc
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14:02:10 <Steven> ack 035
Steven Pemberton: ack 035 ←
14:02:11 <ivan> zakim, dial ivan-voip
Ivan Herman: zakim, dial ivan-voip ←
14:02:11 <Zakim> ok, ivan; the call is being made
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14:02:12 <Zakim> +Ivan
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14:02:24 <Zakim> + +0785583aadd
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14:02:24 <manu> zakim, aacc is Benjamin
Manu Sporny: zakim, aacc is Benjamin ←
14:02:25 <Zakim> +Benjamin; got it
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14:02:31 <manu> zakim, who is on the call?
Manu Sporny: zakim, who is on the call? ←
14:02:31 <Zakim> On the phone I see manu, RobW, +03539149aabb (muted), Steven, ShaneM, [MIT528] (muted), Benjamin, Ivan, +0785583aadd
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see manu, RobW, +03539149aabb (muted), Steven, ShaneM, [MIT528] (muted), Benjamin, Ivan, +0785583aadd ←
14:02:49 <manu> zakim, aabb is Knud
Manu Sporny: zakim, aabb is Knud ←
14:02:49 <Zakim> +Knud; got it
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14:02:55 <manu> zakim, who is on the call?
Manu Sporny: zakim, who is on the call? ←
14:02:55 <Zakim> On the phone I see manu, RobW, Knud (muted), Steven, ShaneM, [MIT528] (muted), Benjamin, Ivan, +0785583aadd
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see manu, RobW, Knud (muted), Steven, ShaneM, [MIT528] (muted), Benjamin, Ivan, +0785583aadd ←
14:03:31 <manu> zakim, aadd is Toby
Manu Sporny: zakim, aadd is Toby ←
14:03:31 <Zakim> +Toby; got it
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14:03:51 <manu> zakim, [MIT528] is Dongmei
Manu Sporny: zakim, [MIT528] is Dongmei ←
14:03:51 <Zakim> +Dongmei; got it
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14:03:58 <manu> zakim, who is on the call?
Manu Sporny: zakim, who is on the call? ←
14:03:58 <Zakim> On the phone I see manu, RobW, Knud (muted), Steven, ShaneM, Dongmei (muted), Benjamin, Ivan, Toby
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see manu, RobW, Knud (muted), Steven, ShaneM, Dongmei (muted), Benjamin, Ivan, Toby ←
14:04:26 <manu> scribenick: RobW
(Scribe set to Robert Weir)
14:04:41 <manu> Scribe: Robert
14:05:29 <RobW> manu: skipping action items today, will only cover when needed rather than every meeting.
Manu Sporny: skipping action items today, will only cover when needed rather than every meeting. ←
14:05:32 <RobW> Topic: Facebook RDFa announcement
14:05:38 <RobW> manu: Facebook announced RDFa support in their Open Graph Protocol!
Manu Sporny: Facebook announced RDFa support in their Open Graph Protocol! ←
14:05:42 <Steven> Yay!
Steven Pemberton: Yay! ←
14:05:46 <Knud> whohoo
Knud Möller: whohoo ←
14:06:00 <manu> Facebook's Open Graph Protocol: http://developers.facebook.com/docs/opengraph
Manu Sporny: Facebook's Open Graph Protocol: http://developers.facebook.com/docs/opengraph ←
14:06:01 <Steven> q+
Steven Pemberton: q+ ←
14:06:07 <ShaneM> It was actually covered on US National Public Radio this morning
Shane McCarron: It was actually covered on US National Public Radio this morning ←
14:06:09 <manu> http://opengraphprotocol.org/
Manu Sporny: http://opengraphprotocol.org/ ←
14:07:07 <tinkster> Do they use a proper RDFa parser, I wonder. e.g. does <span property="og:foobar">...</span> work identically to <meta>?
Toby Inkster: Do they use a proper RDFa parser, I wonder. e.g. does <span property="og:foobar">...</span> work identically to <meta>? ←
14:07:19 <RobW> manu: "Great News" -- Facebook seems to have adopted RDFa in their Open Graph Protocol, published yesterday, http://opengraphprotocol.org/, calls out RDFa by name. Several partners and content providers.
Manu Sporny: "Great News" -- Facebook seems to have adopted RDFa in their Open Graph Protocol, published yesterday, http://opengraphprotocol.org/, calls out RDFa by name. Several partners and content providers. ←
14:09:46 <ivan> q+
Ivan Herman: q+ ←
14:10:15 <Steven> q-
Steven Pemberton: q- ←
14:10:19 <manu> ack ivan
Manu Sporny: ack ivan ←
14:13:49 <ShaneM> q+ to ask a question about og
Shane McCarron: q+ to ask a question about og ←
14:13:59 <ivan> q+
Ivan Herman: q+ ←
14:14:18 <manu> ack shaneM
Manu Sporny: ack shaneM ←
14:14:18 <Zakim> ShaneM, you wanted to ask a question about og
Zakim IRC Bot: ShaneM, you wanted to ask a question about og ←
14:15:15 <manu> ack ivan
Manu Sporny: ack ivan ←
14:15:43 <manu> ACTION: Manu to talk to Thomas Roessler about Facebook announcement
ACTION: Manu to talk to Thomas Roessler about Facebook announcement ←
14:15:43 <trackbot> Created ACTION-25 - Talk to Thomas Roessler about Facebook announcement [on Manu Sporny - due 2010-04-29].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-25 - Talk to Thomas Roessler about Facebook announcement [on Manu Sporny - due 2010-04-29]. ←
14:16:11 <manu> ACTION: Manu to start discussion about RDFa with Facebook
ACTION: Manu to start discussion about RDFa with Facebook ←
14:16:11 <trackbot> Created ACTION-26 - Start discussion about RDFa with Facebook [on Manu Sporny - due 2010-04-29].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-26 - Start discussion about RDFa with Facebook [on Manu Sporny - due 2010-04-29]. ←
14:19:36 <manu> q+ to move on
Manu Sporny: q+ to move on ←
14:19:49 <manu> ack manu
Manu Sporny: ack manu ←
14:19:49 <Zakim> manu, you wanted to move on
Zakim IRC Bot: manu, you wanted to move on ←
14:20:10 <RobW> TOPIC: Raw triples via DOM API
14:20:29 <Benjamin> http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/drafts/2010/ED-rdfa-dom-api-20100421/js_docs_out/index.html
Benjamin Adrian: http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/drafts/2010/ED-rdfa-dom-api-20100421/js_docs_out/index.html ←
14:20:45 <RobW> Benjamin: Report on some changes in last week
Benjamin Adrian: Report on some changes in last week ←
14:20:47 <Benjamin> this is the jsdoc Document
Benjamin Adrian: this is the jsdoc Document ←
14:20:55 <Benjamin> http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/drafts/2010/ED-rdfa-dom-api-20100421/rdfa_dom_api.js
Benjamin Adrian: http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/drafts/2010/ED-rdfa-dom-api-20100421/rdfa_dom_api.js ←
14:22:24 <RobW> Benjamin: Reduced hiearchy of resources, removed inner abstract nodes, leaving leaf class nodes which can be instantied via API
Benjamin Adrian: Reduced hiearchy of resources, removed inner abstract nodes, leaving leaf class nodes which can be instantied via API ←
14:22:54 <Benjamin> rdfa.foaf.name
Benjamin Adrian: rdfa.foaf.name ←
14:23:20 <RobW> Benjamin: Add vocabulary mapping for convenient access to URIs, e.g., shortcut rdfa.foaf.name for FOAF vocbulary
Benjamin Adrian: Add vocabulary mapping for convenient access to URIs, e.g., shortcut rdfa.foaf.name for FOAF vocbulary ←
14:24:32 <RobW> Benjamin: Added RDFa object type, based on idea of Mark, JSON-like to access properties
Benjamin Adrian: Added RDFa object type, based on idea of Mark, JSON-like to access properties ←
14:24:46 <Benjamin> rdfaObject[rdfa.foaf.name] result in "foo"
Benjamin Adrian: rdfaObject[rdfa.foaf.name] result in "foo" ←
14:25:19 <manu> var person = rdfa.extractObject("http://example.org/foo#me");
Manu Sporny: var person = rdfa.extractObject("http://example.org/foo#me"); ←
14:25:32 <manu> person[rdfa.foaf.name] == "Jane Doe";
Manu Sporny: person[rdfa.foaf.name] == "Jane Doe"; ←
14:26:29 <RobW> manu: Agrees (for the most part) to Benjamin's changes. More disagreements with Mark, which we should discuss.
Manu Sporny: Agrees (for the most part) to Benjamin's changes. More disagreements with Mark, which we should discuss. ←
14:27:16 <Benjamin> Current version of the spec is: http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/sources/rdfa-dom-api/
Benjamin Adrian: Current version of the spec is: http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/sources/rdfa-dom-api/ ←
14:27:36 <RobW> manu: Trying to make API as "native" to JS and other scripting languages as possible.
Manu Sporny: Trying to make API as "native" to JS and other scripting languages as possible. ←
14:29:33 <ivan> q+
Ivan Herman: q+ ←
14:29:35 <RobW> manu: One disagreement is that Mark does not want to add raw triples. Mark wants object projection. Raw triples gives more fundemental access for building on.
Manu Sporny: One disagreement is that Mark does not want to add raw triples. Mark wants object projection. Raw triples gives more fundemental access for building on. ←
14:29:37 <manu> ack ivan
Manu Sporny: ack ivan ←
14:29:39 <Knud> can't we have both raw triples and projection?
Knud Möller: can't we have both raw triples and projection? ←
14:29:57 <Benjamin> that's what we did with RDFaObject
Benjamin Adrian: that's what we did with RDFaObject ←
14:30:02 <tinkster> ivan++
Toby Inkster: ivan++ ←
14:30:46 <tinkster> If you can get at the triples, you can build objects that match your own data model from it; the inverse is not necessarily true.
Toby Inkster: If you can get at the triples, you can build objects that match your own data model from it; the inverse is not necessarily true. ←
14:31:00 <RobW> ivan: Want possibility to get raw triples. We need to remmeber that RDFa is only one serialization of RDF. There may be other approaches in addition, but no comment on these.
Ivan Herman: Want possibility to get raw triples. We need to remmeber that RDFa is only one serialization of RDF. There may be other approaches in addition, but no comment on these. ←
14:32:11 <RobW> manu: agrees with tinkster, that raw triples at lower level enables building other models on top of it
Manu Sporny: agrees with tinkster, that raw triples at lower level enables building other models on top of it ←
14:32:16 <ShaneM> +1 to both
Shane McCarron: +1 to both ←
14:32:49 <Knud> +1 to both
Knud Möller: +1 to both ←
14:33:01 <RobW> Benjamin: current RDFa object, allows both triples and projection.
Benjamin Adrian: current RDFa object, allows both triples and projection. ←
14:33:24 <manu> PROPOSAL: RDFa DOM API should provide both a raw triples interface and a projection-based interface.
PROPOSED: RDFa DOM API should provide both a raw triples interface and a projection-based interface. ←
14:33:29 <tinkster> +1
Toby Inkster: +1 ←
14:33:35 <manu> +1
Manu Sporny: +1 ←
14:33:35 <Knud> +1
Knud Möller: +1 ←
14:33:35 <RobW> RobW: +1
Robert Weir: +1 ←
14:33:36 <Steven> +0
Steven Pemberton: +0 ←
14:33:37 <Benjamin> +1
Benjamin Adrian: +1 ←
14:33:39 <ivan> +1
Ivan Herman: +1 ←
14:33:40 <ShaneM> +1
Shane McCarron: +1 ←
14:34:05 <RobW> Steven: Can live with resolution
Steven Pemberton: Can live with resolution ←
14:34:14 <RobW> ... not opposed
... not opposed ←
14:34:16 <manu> RESOLVED: RDFa DOM API should provide both a raw triples interface and a projection-based interface.
RESOLVED: RDFa DOM API should provide both a raw triples interface and a projection-based interface. ←
14:35:17 <RobW> TOPIC: Native language objects via DOM API
14:36:09 <RobW> manu: One issue with RDFaObject in the projection of data onto JS object. But what about when object has multiple objects for same predicate?
Manu Sporny: One issue with RDFaObject in the projection of data onto JS object. But what about when object has multiple objects for same predicate? ←
14:36:15 <manu> person[foaf.nick] === ["joe", "joeb", "joey"];
Manu Sporny: person[foaf.nick] === ["joe", "joeb", "joey"]; ←
14:36:23 <tinkster> RDFaObject could be renamed "Resource" (like RDFS) or "Thing" (like OWL).
Toby Inkster: RDFaObject could be renamed "Resource" (like RDFS) or "Thing" (like OWL). ←
14:36:38 <manu> if(person[foaf.nick] instanceof string) ...
Manu Sporny: if(person[foaf.nick] instanceof string) ... ←
14:37:10 <manu> person[foaf.nick] instanceof DOMString
Manu Sporny: person[foaf.nick] instanceof DOMString ←
14:37:12 <manu> person[foaf.nick] instanceof Array
Manu Sporny: person[foaf.nick] instanceof Array ←
14:37:38 <RobW> manu: The problem is that we don't know if the container, e.g., person[foaf.nick] is a DOMString or Array, multiple or single value.
Manu Sporny: The problem is that we don't know if the container, e.g., person[foaf.nick] is a DOMString or Array, multiple or single value. ←
14:37:39 <manu> whether to use person[foaf.nick][0] or person[foaf.nick]
Manu Sporny: whether to use person[foaf.nick][0] or person[foaf.nick] ←
14:38:19 <manu> if(person[foaf.nick] instanceof Array) {do x} else if(person[foaf.nick] instanceof String) {do y}
Manu Sporny: if(person[foaf.nick] instanceof Array) {do x} else if(person[foaf.nick] instanceof String) {do y} ←
14:38:37 <Knud> can we have a new class that behaves nicely in both ways in JavaScript?
Knud Möller: can we have a new class that behaves nicely in both ways in JavaScript? ←
14:39:04 <RobW> manu: Fundemental limitation of language to do this both ways in JS
Manu Sporny: Fundemental limitation of language to do this both ways in JS ←
14:39:09 <manu> person[foaf.nick] == <single value>
Manu Sporny: person[foaf.nick] == <single value> ←
14:39:21 <Benjamin> we provide addional methods:
Benjamin Adrian: we provide addional methods: ←
14:39:23 <Benjamin> rdfaObject.getValue(rdfa.rdfs.comment): bar
Benjamin Adrian: rdfaObject.getValue(rdfa.rdfs.comment): bar ←
14:39:23 <Benjamin> rdfaObject.getValues(rdfa.rdfs.comment): foo,bar
Benjamin Adrian: rdfaObject.getValues(rdfa.rdfs.comment): foo,bar ←
14:39:34 <manu> personb[foaf.nick] = persona[foaf.nick];
Manu Sporny: personb[foaf.nick] = persona[foaf.nick]; ←
14:39:58 <manu> personb[foaf.nick] === "joe";
Manu Sporny: personb[foaf.nick] === "joe"; ←
14:40:11 <manu> persona[foaf.nick] === ["joe", "joeb", "joey"];
Manu Sporny: persona[foaf.nick] === ["joe", "joeb", "joey"]; ←
14:40:32 <RobW> manu: For example, above assignment would only copy first item in array
Manu Sporny: For example, above assignment would only copy first item in array ←
14:40:59 <tinkster> if (person.has(rdfa.foaf.nick, "Joe")) { window.alert("It's Joe!"); }
Toby Inkster: if (person.has(rdfa.foaf.nick, "Joe")) { window.alert("It's Joe!"); } ←
14:41:00 <manu> var nick = personb[foaf.nick].getSingleValue();
Manu Sporny: var nick = personb[foaf.nick].getSingleValue(); ←
14:43:03 <RobW> manu: is there general agreement that we should provide native language objects?
Manu Sporny: is there general agreement that we should provide native language objects? ←
14:43:17 <RobW> ... any opposition?
... any opposition? ←
14:44:04 <manu> persona.getProperty(foaf.nick)
Manu Sporny: persona.getProperty(foaf.nick) ←
14:44:10 <tinkster> I think it's definitely a good idea to have these; but not sure if they need to be part of the base DOM API - this could be a library layered on top of the API.
Toby Inkster: I think it's definitely a good idea to have these; but not sure if they need to be part of the base DOM API - this could be a library layered on top of the API. ←
14:44:49 <ivan> tinkster++++
Ivan Herman: tinkster++++ ←
14:44:54 <ivan> keep it simple
Ivan Herman: keep it simple ←
14:45:35 <Benjamin> q+
Benjamin Adrian: q+ ←
14:45:39 <manu> ack Benjamin
Manu Sporny: ack Benjamin ←
14:45:41 <RobW> ivan: Agrees with tinkster. Keep in Simple. Put the basic stuff out there and add layers as time permits
Ivan Herman: Agrees with tinkster. Keep in Simple. Put the basic stuff out there and add layers as time permits ←
14:45:48 <manu> q+ to discuss that this is Projection-based mechanism.
Manu Sporny: q+ to discuss that this is Projection-based mechanism. ←
14:47:04 <manu> global rdfa
Manu Sporny: global rdfa ←
14:47:26 <RobW> manu: two different things -- global rdfa object and then RDFaObject
Manu Sporny: two different things -- global rdfa object and then RDFaObject ←
14:47:26 <manu> RDFaObject is returned from rdfa.list()
Manu Sporny: RDFaObject is returned from rdfa.list() ←
14:47:30 <Benjamin> rdfa.extractObject()
Benjamin Adrian: rdfa.extractObject() ←
14:47:31 <manu> RDFaObject is returned from rdfa.getObject();
Manu Sporny: RDFaObject is returned from rdfa.getObject(); ←
14:48:43 <manu> q?
Manu Sporny: q? ←
14:48:46 <manu> ack manu
Manu Sporny: ack manu ←
14:48:46 <Zakim> manu, you wanted to discuss that this is Projection-based mechanism.
Zakim IRC Bot: manu, you wanted to discuss that this is Projection-based mechanism. ←
14:48:47 <RobW> ivan: First step should be triple interface, then global rdfa object. These should be seperate from any additional things we add on top of this API. Concerned with over-engineering
Ivan Herman: First step should be triple interface, then global rdfa object. These should be seperate from any additional things we add on top of this API. Concerned with over-engineering ←
14:51:39 <Benjamin> we provide 8 methods :)
Benjamin Adrian: we provide 8 methods :) ←
14:52:38 <ShaneM> I think its fine... +1
Shane McCarron: I think its fine... +1 ←
14:52:41 <RobW> manu: any objection to putting native language mechanism out in FPWD?
Manu Sporny: any objection to putting native language mechanism out in FPWD? ←
14:53:01 <manu> PROPOSAL: Put Native language object support into DOM API for FPWD.
PROPOSED: Put Native language object support into DOM API for FPWD. ←
14:53:08 <tinkster> +1
Toby Inkster: +1 ←
14:53:10 <ShaneM> +1
Shane McCarron: +1 ←
14:53:11 <Steven> Fine by me
Steven Pemberton: Fine by me ←
14:53:13 <RobW> RobW: +1
Robert Weir: +1 ←
14:53:15 <Benjamin> +1
Benjamin Adrian: +1 ←
14:53:15 <ivan> +0
Ivan Herman: +0 ←
14:53:15 <manu> +1
Manu Sporny: +1 ←
14:53:20 <Knud> +1
Knud Möller: +1 ←
14:53:32 <manu> RESOLVED: Put Native language object support into DOM API for FPWD.
RESOLVED: Put Native language object support into DOM API for FPWD. ←
14:53:42 <RobW> TOPIC: Triple-DOM Element Association
14:54:14 <RobW> manu: associating DOM elements with generated triples, so you know where each part of a triple comes from.
Manu Sporny: associating DOM elements with generated triples, so you know where each part of a triple comes from. ←
14:55:25 <RobW> manu: Any feedback on tying elements to each part of triple (subject/predicate/object)
Manu Sporny: Any feedback on tying elements to each part of triple (subject/predicate/object) ←
14:55:33 <RobW> ivan: would like to hear a use case
Ivan Herman: would like to hear a use case ←
14:56:23 <RobW> manu: E.g., highlight all subjects on page, or all objects on page
Manu Sporny: E.g., highlight all subjects on page, or all objects on page ←
14:56:37 <tinkster> No, it's a good idea. In my parsing API, I can feed the calling code a DOM element for each triple, but it's just the "[current element]" in RDFa processing sequence terminology, so not necessarily useful.
Toby Inkster: No, it's a good idea. In my parsing API, I can feed the calling code a DOM element for each triple, but it's just the "[current element]" in RDFa processing sequence terminology, so not necessarily useful. ←
14:57:11 <tinkster> So if people can get to the other relevant nodes, that's a good thing.
Toby Inkster: So if people can get to the other relevant nodes, that's a good thing. ←
14:57:13 <RobW> ShaneM: e.g., trace back to subject or object node from the predicate
Shane McCarron: e.g., trace back to subject or object node from the predicate ←
14:58:17 <RobW> manu: more complicated in some programming platforms, with significant implementation costs, e.g., with SAX parser
Manu Sporny: more complicated in some programming platforms, with significant implementation costs, e.g., with SAX parser ←
14:58:41 <manu> q+ to end the meeting
Manu Sporny: q+ to end the meeting ←
14:58:41 <RobW> ivan: Agrees. But might be a price to pay
Ivan Herman: Agrees. But might be a price to pay ←
14:59:07 <tinkster> I don't think it involves *that* much extra work. It should just be a matter of passing around three extra variables in the parsing context.
Toby Inkster: I don't think it involves *that* much extra work. It should just be a matter of passing around three extra variables in the parsing context. ←
14:59:21 <manu> Blank Nodes, URIs, TypedLiterals, PlainLiterals would all have .element
Manu Sporny: Blank Nodes, URIs, TypedLiterals, PlainLiterals would all have .element ←
15:00:08 <tinkster> getChildElementByID doesn't use "node"
Toby Inkster: getChildElementByID doesn't use "node" ←
15:00:17 <tinkster> getElementByID rather.
Toby Inkster: getElementByID rather. ←
15:01:43 <RobW> manu: Any closing thoughts? Next week likely resolution to create FPWD on API - we need reviewers.
Manu Sporny: Any closing thoughts? Next week likely resolution to create FPWD on API - we need reviewers. ←
15:02:07 <Steven> http://www.w3.org/News/2010.html#entry-8777
Steven Pemberton: http://www.w3.org/News/2010.html#entry-8777 ←
15:03:23 <Knud> I'll give it a shot
Knud Möller: I'll give it a shot ←
15:03:32 <manu> ACTION: Shane to review RDFa DOM API FPWD
ACTION: Shane to review RDFa DOM API FPWD ←
15:03:32 <trackbot> Created ACTION-27 - Review RDFa DOM API FPWD [on Shane McCarron - due 2010-04-29].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-27 - Review RDFa DOM API FPWD [on Shane McCarron - due 2010-04-29]. ←
15:03:36 <tinkster> k thx bye
Toby Inkster: k thx bye ←
15:03:37 <Knud> :)
Knud Möller: :) ←
15:03:38 <Zakim> -Toby
Zakim IRC Bot: -Toby ←
15:03:39 <manu> ACTION: Knud to review RDFa DOM API FPWD
ACTION: Knud to review RDFa DOM API FPWD ←
15:03:39 <trackbot> Created ACTION-28 - Review RDFa DOM API FPWD [on Knud Möller - due 2010-04-29].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-28 - Review RDFa DOM API FPWD [on Knud Möller - due 2010-04-29]. ←
15:03:43 <Knud> who is going to be at WWW or WebScience? Should we have a little informal f2f?
Knud Möller: who is going to be at WWW or WebScience? Should we have a little informal f2f? ←
15:03:55 <Zakim> -Steven
Zakim IRC Bot: -Steven ←
15:03:57 <Zakim> -RobW
Zakim IRC Bot: -RobW ←
15:03:57 <Zakim> -ShaneM
Zakim IRC Bot: -ShaneM ←
15:03:59 <Zakim> -Knud
Zakim IRC Bot: -Knud ←
15:04:10 <RobW> rrsagent, generate minutes
rrsagent, generate minutes ←
15:04:10 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/04/22-rdfa-minutes.html RobW
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/04/22-rdfa-minutes.html RobW ←
15:04:29 <Benjamin> I also stay a bit in this telcon to ask Manu some stuff about the api
Benjamin Adrian: I also stay a bit in this telcon to ask Manu some stuff about the api ←
15:07:15 <ivan> http://ivan-herman.name/2010/04/22/rdfa-1-1-drafts/
Ivan Herman: http://ivan-herman.name/2010/04/22/rdfa-1-1-drafts/ ←
15:08:46 <ivan> zakim, drop me
Ivan Herman: zakim, drop me ←
15:08:46 <Zakim> Ivan is being disconnected
Zakim IRC Bot: Ivan is being disconnected ←
15:08:47 <Zakim> -Ivan
Zakim IRC Bot: -Ivan ←
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