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HCLS IG

mscottm: there is a legal entity here (Pistoia alliance?) that will stay in touch with W3C
...: 6 task forces, 100 people.
... Bio-rdf working on federation, focused on specific UCs like micro array data
... terminology would like "shared names" to be used for "serving terminologies"
... linking open drug data for pharma
... clinical observations interop looking at bridging clinical to hospitals with specific technologies
... translational medicine ontology would like to talk about basic entities in medice
... looking at linking from different kinds of data, e.g. text, micro arrays, mris, etc.
... NCBO serves up many medical ontologies but no sparql endpoint

<Zakim> mhausenblas, you wanted to discuss SWObject and RDB2RDF liaison

<mhausenblas> http://www.w3.org/2010/01/26-RDB2RDF-minutes.html#item03

mhausenblas: some synergy between RDB2RDF R2RML from eric and hcls

<IanH> Sorry to be late -- tr

<IanH> trying to dial in now

mscottm: eric is in a project called uniprot, important proteins resource

eGov

<mscottm> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/hcls/

<mscottm> A development that I am excited about is the collaborative effort involving HCLS and CWA and the Swiss Institute of Bioinformatics (SIB) to create a SPARQL endpoint for Uniprot. Such an endpoint could make it possible to perform essential bioinformatics information retrieval without ever leaving the comfort of your SPARQL query interface.

Sandro: UK revealed a "data.gov.uk" website

<mhausenblas> Michael: main difference is that UK is decentralised in principle

<danbri> I very much recommend Jeni Tennison's post about this work - http://www.jenitennison.com/blog/node/140

<mhausenblas> +1, great summary

Sandro: lots of data in RDF
... egov IG will run 6 projects, 3 are linked data
... how to link data, strategies for adopting rdf/ld, egov demo
... IG open to public

<Zakim> mhausenblas, you wanted to as re http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-egov-ig/2010Jan/0033.html

<mhausenblas> Michael: for Austria and Ireland I can say that there is something happening, yes

<danbri> see http://mailman.few.vu.nl/pipermail/dutchsemweb-l/2010-January/000018.html [dutchsemweb-l] Topic announce for Semantic Web Meetup on February 12th

<danbri> [dutchsemweb-l] Topic announce for Semantic Web Meetup on February 12th

<danbri> Schedule :

<danbri> 13h00-14h00 Keynote (TBA)

<danbri> 14h00-14h30 Lightning talks (one slide and 2 minutes per talk)

<mhausenblas> Michael: we at DERI prepare it for IE and AT is covered by http://gov.opendata.at

<danbri> 14h30-16h00 Breakouts - split in hands-on/discussion groups.

<danbri> 16h00-16h15 Presentations on the results of the breakout groups

<danbri> 16h15-17h00 Group wide discussion

<danbri> 17h00-.......... Drinks

RDFa

manu: version of rdfa published in 2008 for xhtml
... looking at rdfa in html5
... 15 implementations of rdfa

<danbri> on which, by far the most enthusiastic rdf-implementor for microdata is benjamin nowack - http://bnode.org/blog/2010/01/26/microdata-semantic-markup-for-both-rdfers-and-non-rdfers - i think he overstates things a bit, but he has taken a serious look

manu: rdfa adopted by yahoo, digg, ... others

<manu> http://www.w3.org/2009/11/rdfa-wg-charter

manu: hope to update rdfa to make authoring easier
... some design decisions coming from micro data
... also looking at improving URI references

<mhausenblas> minor nit: the link "previous charter" at http://www.w3.org/2009/11/rdfa-wg-charter in fact points to http://www.w3.org/2003/12/swa/dawg-charter.html which is not intended, I think

manu: an rdfa javascript api
... enabling extraction of triples from browsers

<Zakim> danbri, you wanted to ask which browser makers said they like microdata api

<danbri> ah http://blog.foolip.org/2009/08/23/microformats-vs-rdfa-vs-microdata/

manu: some uptake of microdata api from browser vendors

<danbri> will be interesting to compare it with http://www.w3.org/TR/IndexedDB/

<mscottm> 1+

ivan: having rdfa specified for xml languages in general
... odf already uses rdfa

<Zakim> danbri, you wanted to ask about scope of xml languages (I looked at xmltv examples this week, and their use of attributes makes me wonder how rdfa would fit)

<mhausenblas> other RDFa host languages see http://rdfa.info/wiki/RDFa_Host_Languages

danbri: all XML langs?

<danbri> eg http://wiki.xmltv.org/index.php/XMLTVFormat ?

ivan: scope is to define attributes so that any xml lang can pick them up

manu: will work with some better than others. XMLTV format is an example of something that RDFa may not be a good solution.

aob: Library XG

Tom: looking at incubator group on semantic libraries

<Zakim> mhausenblas, you wanted to ask re the CH XG

<mscottm> antoine?

<Zakim> danbri, you wanted to say 'semantic' is a word that hasn't worked well

<TomB> Antoine Isaac

<mscottm> tx

<manu> +1

<mhausenblas> +1

<mhausenblas> maybe CH Data XG ?

<danbri> I like 'Cultural Heritage'

<mhausenblas> let's not overuse linked yadayada, though

<mhausenblas> yep, I think CH is good

<danbri> leave 'Semantic Web' as a techincal term in stds community

<mhausenblas> maybe only CH XG?

<sandro> I also think "Semantic" is a problem, but we can't just rename everything. Introducing Linked Data in parallel is our best bet, which is what we're doing.

<sandro> Also, "Semantic" does help get funding for some folks.

<ChrisW> ivan: last week f2f meeting in NY visited NY Times

<ChrisW> evan sandhaus is the contact

<sandro> evan@nytimes.com

<IanH> OK -- bye!

W3C SW Coordination Group Telco

27 Jan 2010

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