W3C

Mobile Web Initiative Test Suites Working Group Teleconference

19 Jan 2010

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
wilhelm, dmitri, Kai, dom
Regrets
Chair
Wilhelm
Scribe
dom

Contents


<hendry> oh i think i failed to mention i tried changing video to HTMLVideoElement, though it didn't work for me either

<hendry> bit confused about HTML5 video interface

WCTMB2

<dom_scribe> Wilhelm's status report on WCTMB2

Wilhelm: we should start testing it on actual phones before making the relrease
... we should also make it possible to submit results

ACTION-103?

<trackbot> ACTION-103 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to look into recording test results from WCTMB2 using XHR and db -- due 2010-01-26 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/103

Dom: starting doing that; would need to know if we do that automatically or semi-automatically

<hendry> i think a server can easily filter this stuff :)

Wilhelm: would be worried that doing that automatically would drown us under too many results
... I think submitting manually would be sufficient

Dom: I'm ok with both approaches; maybe manual will be sufficient, based on our experience with WCTBM1

Kai: I prefer automatically, but I guess I can see that manual will work too

Dom: OK, will implement the manual version then

close ACTION-104

<trackbot> ACTION-104 Review new tests from wilhelm closed

<dom_scribe> Kai's comments on Wilhelm new tests

Kai: I'm a bit worried about the size of the font file, it feels a bit big
... should we be worried about the different font formats? e.g. WOFF

Wilhelm: I think sticking with TTF for now is probably best

Kai: no IP issue in this case?

Wilhelm: WOFF is mostly TTF + metadata

Kai: ok, so TTF might be adequate then
... also, the validator reports a problem with the date inputfield

<scribe> ... new canvas test seems simpler, sounds good

Wilhelm: regarding font size, I can try stripping it out

<scribe> ACTION: Wilhelm to look at trimming font file [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/19-mwts-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-107 - Look at trimming font file [on Wilhelm Joys Andersen - due 2010-01-26].

<scribe> ACTION: Kai to fix <input type="date" /> in WCTMB2 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/19-mwts-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-108 - Fix <input type="date" /> in WCTMB2 [on Kai Hendry - due 2010-01-26].

ACTION-96?

<trackbot> ACTION-96 -- Wilhelm Joys Andersen to review and integrate audio and video tests in WCTMB2 -- due 2010-01-12 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/96

Wilhelm: video test still failing in Opera/FF
... will look in fixing it

Kai: do you know about the named interface?

<hendry> HTMLVideoElement

Dom: have you tried replacing Video() with HTMLVideoElement()?

Kai: tried that, but didn't make a difference

Wilhelm: I'll look at that as part of my action

ACTION-105?

<trackbot> ACTION-105 -- Kai Hendry to update localStorage to move counter out of test results -- due 2010-01-25 -- PENDINGREVIEW

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/105

close ACTION-105

<trackbot> ACTION-105 Update localStorage to move counter out of test results closed

Kai: we discussed putting it somewhere else, right?

dom: we discussed putting it after the list of results, but I don't think that matters much

close ACTION-106

<trackbot> ACTION-106 Add the user agent string in the detailed results closed

Wilhelm: I've moved the user agent string in the details part

Kai: better idea, indeed!

Dom: what's your feeling? what are our chances to call it done next week?

Wilhelm: good I think
... we still need testing

<scribe> ACTION: Dom to test wctmb2 on his devices [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/19-mwts-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-109 - Test wctmb2 on his devices [on Dominique Hazaël-Massieux - due 2010-01-26].

<scribe> ACTION: Kai to test wctmb2 on his devices [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/19-mwts-minutes.html#action04]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-110 - Test wctmb2 on his devices [on Kai Hendry - due 2010-01-26].

<scribe> ACTION: Wilhelm to test wctmb2 on his devices [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/19-mwts-minutes.html#action05]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-111 - Test wctmb2 on his devices [on Wilhelm Joys Andersen - due 2010-01-26].

<scribe> ACTION: Dmitri to test wctmb2 on his devices [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/19-mwts-minutes.html#action06]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-112 - Test wctmb2 on his devices [on Dmitri Sileav - due 2010-01-26].

Kai: would be good to return a permalink to submission results

ACTION-103: give back permalink to results submission

<trackbot> ACTION-103 Look into recording test results from WCTMB2 using XHR and db notes added

Wilhelm: we should prepare an announcement

<scribe> ACTION: Kai to draft announcement of WCTMB2 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/19-mwts-minutes.html#action07]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-113 - Draft announcement of WCTMB2 [on Kai Hendry - due 2010-01-26].

Test assertions methodology

<dom_scribe> Update to methodology document

<scribe> ACTION: Dom to review new version of methodology [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/19-mwts-minutes.html#action08]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-114 - Review new version of methodology [on Dominique Hazaël-Massieux - due 2010-01-26].

<scribe> ACTION: Wilhelm to review new version of methodology [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/19-mwts-minutes.html#action09]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-115 - Review new version of methodology [on Wilhelm Joys Andersen - due 2010-01-26].

Dom: let's confirm next week that we want to publish

Dmitri: the draft signals problems at the top right corner

<scribe> ACTION: Dmitri to review the new version of methodology [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/19-mwts-minutes.html#action10]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-116 - Review the new version of methodology [on Dmitri Sileav - due 2010-01-26].

Next call

January 26

Wilhelm: will be traveling; will send everything needed in advance

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: Dmitri to review the new version of methodology [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/19-mwts-minutes.html#action10]
[NEW] ACTION: Dmitri to test wctmb2 on his devices [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/19-mwts-minutes.html#action06]
[NEW] ACTION: Dom to review new version of methodology [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/19-mwts-minutes.html#action08]
[NEW] ACTION: Dom to test wctmb2 on his devices [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/19-mwts-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: Kai to draft announcement of WCTMB2 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/19-mwts-minutes.html#action07]
[NEW] ACTION: Kai to fix <input type="date" /> in WCTMB2 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/19-mwts-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: Kai to test wctmb2 on his devices [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/19-mwts-minutes.html#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: Wilhelm to look at trimming font file [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/19-mwts-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: Wilhelm to review new version of methodology [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/19-mwts-minutes.html#action09]
[NEW] ACTION: Wilhelm to test wctmb2 on his devices [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/19-mwts-minutes.html#action05]
 
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