<trackbot> Date: 15 January 2010

<scribe> Meeting: prov-xg

<scribe> Scribe: Jun

<scribe> ScribeNick: jun

<YolandaG> thanks very much for scribing, Jun!!

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<trackbot> Meeting: Provenance Incubator Group Teleconference

<trackbot> Date: 15 January 2010

<scribe> Meeting: prov-xg

<scribe> chair: Yolanda Gil

<scribe> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-prov/2010Jan/0008.html

<scribe> Scribe: Jun

<scribe> ScribeNick: jun

<jmgomez> hi all

review the requirement document

http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/prov/wiki/Requirements

Paul: introduce the organization of this document
... we would like everybody to go through each use case and identify the user and technical requirement

<smiles> +q

Paul: I would like to go through with everybody, whether they are happy to contribute each part
... which I mean going through each separate dimension

Yolanda: these requirements are being expressed in a very concise way
... the requirement document might need to refer to the use cases, expand a bit more

Paul: get the core requirements out, and then go back and refill them in

Yolanda: agreed

Ivan: these requirements should compare what we do today, and where are the missing bits

Paul: that should be covered in the subsequent document

Yolanda: agreed. starting from the requirements first would also help with indexing the state-of-the-art

Paul: we are trying not to be very verbose at the beginning

<jmgomez> I agree with that

Paul: I would like to sign ppl up to each dimension

<pgroth> attribution

Paul: go through each dimension and sign up ppl

<Christine> Happy to sign up to Attribution - UR

<Irini> Happy to sign up to Entailment

Simon: how many people for each dimension?

<Oleksiy> I would like to sign up to Attribution

<smiles> I would like to sign up to Debugging

Paul: look for ppl who have expertise in that dimension and willing to contribute

<Oleksiy> Oleksiy Chayka

<pgroth> attribution

<pgroth> Oleksiy Chayka

<pgroth> Christine

<scribe> ACTION: Christine, Oleksiy Chayka to Attribution [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/15-prov-xg-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - Christine,

<pgroth> Process

<YolandaG> i can help with process

<jmgomez> jose: process

<scribe> ACTION: to Jose and Yolanda to Process [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/15-prov-xg-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - to

<pgroth> versioning

<Christine> Happy to help with evolution and versioning -UR

<pgroth> paul groth

<YolandaG> i'd suggest Chris Bizer

<pgroth> Justification

<scribe> ACTION: Paul Groth, Christine and Chris Bizer to Versioning [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/15-prov-xg-minutes.html#action03]

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<pgroth> James Cheney

<pgroth> Deborah Mcquiness

<pgroth> Entailment

<Irini> I can contribute to Entailment

<jmgomez> I can help with process, understanding, and trust

<scribe> ACTION: to James and Deborah to Justification [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/15-prov-xg-minutes.html#action04]

<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - to

<pgroth> Deborah

<pgroth> Publication

<scribe> ACTION: to Irini and Deborah to Entailment [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/15-prov-xg-minutes.html#action05]

<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - to

<scribe> ACTION: to Jun for Publication [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/15-prov-xg-minutes.html#action06]

<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - to

<YolandaG> how about Luc for publication

<pgroth> access

<pgroth> yogesh simmhan

<pgroth> Jim McCusker

<pgroth> Dissementation

<scribe> ACTION: Yogesh and Jim McCusker for Access [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/15-prov-xg-minutes.html#action07]

<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - Yogesh

<pgroth> Luc moreau

<scribe> ACTION: to Luc and Simon for Dissemination [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/15-prov-xg-minutes.html#action08]

<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - to

<Christine> Happy to sign up - dissemination - UR

<pgroth> Simon Miles

<pgroth> Scale

<pgroth> Chris Bizer

<pgroth> Paul Groth

<scribe> ACTION: Chris Bizer and Paul Groth to Scale [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/15-prov-xg-minutes.html#action09]

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<pgroth> Understanding

<Paolo> I can help do that

<Paolo> sorry I am on a bad wirless

<pgroth> Jose Gomez

<scribe> ACTION: Jose and Paolo to Understanding [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/15-prov-xg-minutes.html#action10]

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<Paolo> can't even try to talk

<pgroth> Interoprability

<pgroth> Luc Moreau

<pgroth> Kai Eckert

<scribe> ACTION: Luc and Kai Eckert to Interoperability [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/15-prov-xg-minutes.html#action11]

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<pgroth> Accountability

<pgroth> Comparison

<pgroth> Simon Miles

<Paolo> I can help do Trust as well

<scribe> ACTION: smiles and Jim to Comparison [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/15-prov-xg-minutes.html#action12]

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<pgroth> Accountability

<pgroth> Leliana

<pgroth> maybe luc

<pgroth> Trust

<scribe> ACTION: Paul and Leliana and Luc to Accountability [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/15-prov-xg-minutes.html#action13]

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<pgroth> Paolo

I can do trust

<Paolo> yep

<YolandaG> i'd be happy to do trust

<scribe> ACTION: Paolo, Jun and Yolanda to Trust [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/15-prov-xg-minutes.html#action14]

<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - Paolo,

<pgroth> Accountability also ask Jim Myers

<pgroth> Imprefections

<pgroth> Luc Moreau

<scribe> ACTION: Luc to Imperfections [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/15-prov-xg-minutes.html#action15]

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<pgroth> Debugging

<pgroth> Kai Eckert

<pgroth> Simon Miles

<scribe> ACTION: Simon and Kai to Debugging [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/15-prov-xg-minutes.html#action16]

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Yolanda: would it make sense for one to be responsible for one core area?

Paul: agreed

Yolanda: we might need to adjust some later if one is signed up too much
... what's the timeline?

Paul: either next week or the week after?

the survey of state of the art

Yolanda: 1/ how to create the linkage between these requirements and citations, create a bibliography?
... 2/ invite ppl to come over and make presentations to us?

<Paolo> not me

<Paolo> in fact I will need to check out -- guest wireless useless. will catch up

Paul: do we also need citations to user requirements?

Yolanda: any particular topic or area where we should look for presentations?

Paul: someone from creativecommons?

Yolanda: are we looking for requirements from them?

Paul: that's part of it. and how they see their licensing being used

<ivan> ben adida?

I can try to contact john wilbank

<scribe> ACTION: Ivan to contact Ben Adia and John Wilbank [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/15-prov-xg-minutes.html#action17]

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Yolanda: I would also like to see what's happening in the DC area

<scribe> ACTION: Yolanda to contact DC ppl [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/15-prov-xg-minutes.html#action18]

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Yolanda: anyone interested in about OPM?

<pgroth> OPM++

<pgroth> a discussion would be great

Simon: interested in DC-related things, database community for provenance, provenance in semantic web

<Irini> +q

<pgroth> how many do we want?

Yolanda: I will ask James Cheney

Jose: I would like to hear more from users of provenance, e.g. the eGov group

<Christine> +q

Christine: I can follow up with the eGov group

<pgroth> what's their name?

Irini: someone else from UPenn might also give a talk about provenance in DB

Yolanda: Chris Bizer on WIQA?

<pgroth> that would be great

Yolanda: also interested in having Pat Hayes

<pgroth> pat would be great

Yolanda: anyone from W3C?

Ivan: not sure at the moment, maybe come back in a few months

Paulo: SPARQL WG? our provenance is encoded in the way that SPARQL can use, for instance?

<pgroth> i think sparql is getting too technical now

Paulo: requirements around entailment

<pgroth> but we don't even have the requirements yet

<pgroth> seems a bit premature

Ivan: a new draft coming out of SPARQL in ~2 weeks, reviewing any provenance issues that might come out

F2F meeting

Yolanda: is still working on it with the WWW people

<pgroth> can't we use skype

<pgroth> :-)

twitter!

<pgroth> +1 for twitter

Ivan: we need a few good machines

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