<bglimm> PRESENT: Andy, Matt, SteveH, Greg, Birte, Sandro, Axel, Lee, carlos, Olivier
15:03:24 <AxelPolleres> Paul joined
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14:57:49 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2012/01/03-sparql-irc
RRSAgent IRC Bot: logging to http://www.w3.org/2012/01/03-sparql-irc ←
14:57:51 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, make logs world ←
14:57:53 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 77277
Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, this will be 77277 ←
14:57:53 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot ←
14:57:54 <trackbot> Meeting: SPARQL Working Group Teleconference
14:57:54 <trackbot> Date: 03 January 2012
14:58:09 <AxelPolleres> chair: Axel Polleres
14:58:19 <AxelPolleres> agenda: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Agenda-2012-01-03
14:59:39 <kasei> AxelPolleres: are we using Zakim or freeconference?
Axel Polleres: are we using Zakim or freeconference? [ Scribe Assist by Gregory Williams ] ←
14:59:55 <AxelPolleres> kasei: just trying...
Gregory Williams: just trying... [ Scribe Assist by Axel Polleres ] ←
15:00:07 <SteveH> I'm on freeconference
Steve Harris: I'm on freeconference ←
15:00:15 <AxelPolleres> Zakim ist down still... let's use freeconference (see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012JanMar/0009.html)
Axel Polleres: Zakim ist down still... let's use freeconference (see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012JanMar/0009.html) ←
15:01:12 <bglimm> So I have to dial to the US? No voip? That might be difficult
Birte Glimm: So I have to dial to the US? No voip? That might be difficult ←
15:01:27 <SteveH> it's not a very good line from the UK, quite noisy
Steve Harris: it's not a very good line from the UK, quite noisy ←
15:01:55 <carlos> I can't connect to that phone :(
Carlos Buil Aranda: I can't connect to that phone :( ←
15:02:44 <AxelPolleres> We have Andy, Matt, SteveH, Greg, on the phone... who else?
Axel Polleres: We have Andy, Matt, SteveH, Greg, on the phone... who else? ←
15:03:16 <AxelPolleres> Birte, sorry, maybe Sandro has some alternative?
Axel Polleres: Birte, sorry, maybe Sandro has some alternative? ←
15:03:24 <AxelPolleres> Paul joined
Axel Polleres: Paul joined ←
15:03:38 <SteveH> bglimm, if you can call a UK number I can join you to the call?
Steve Harris: bglimm, if you can call a UK number I can join you to the call? ←
15:03:43 <sandro> I thought the site said something about internet calls.
Sandro Hawke: I thought the site said something about internet calls. ←
15:03:55 <AxelPolleres> (carlos, birte having technical problems...)
Axel Polleres: (carlos, birte having technical problems...) ←
15:03:55 <SteveH> sandro, I couldn't find anything just now
Steve Harris: sandro, I couldn't find anything just now ←
15:04:36 <AndyS1> And the local chemical warning siren is testing (I hope) here :-|
Andy Seaborne: And the local chemical warning siren is testing (I hope) here :-| ←
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15:05:10 <AxelPolleres> sandro joined
Axel Polleres: sandro joined ←
15:05:48 <sandro> sandro has changed the topic to: No Zakim today. 1-213-342-3000 code 4264131
Sandro Hawke: sandro has changed the topic to: No Zakim today. 1-213-342-3000 code 4264131 ←
15:05:49 <Olivier> I joined the telcon
Olivier Corby: I joined the telcon ←
15:05:58 <AxelPolleres> Olivier joined
Axel Polleres: Olivier joined ←
15:06:11 <bglimm> I called the US number via Skype
Birte Glimm: I called the US number via Skype ←
15:06:26 <bglimm> but you have to have Skype credit to do that
Birte Glimm: but you have to have Skype credit to do that ←
15:06:33 <AxelPolleres> agenda: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Agenda-2012-01-03
15:06:47 <sandro> (fwiw, Google Voice can't call this number :-( )
Sandro Hawke: (fwiw, Google Voice can't call this number :-( ) ←
15:06:59 <bglimm> AxelPolleres: Happy new year everybody
Axel Polleres: Happy new year everybody [ Scribe Assist by Birte Glimm ] ←
15:07:08 <AxelPolleres> topic: admin
15:07:09 <bglimm> ... we had several resolutions last year
Birte Glimm: ... we had several resolutions last year ←
15:07:20 <AxelPolleres> PROPOSED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2011-12-20
PROPOSED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2011-12-20 ←
15:07:46 <AndyS1> +1
Andy Seaborne: +1 ←
15:07:47 <bglimm> ...Comments on the minutes?
Birte Glimm: ...Comments on the minutes? ←
15:07:50 <bglimm> (silence)
Birte Glimm: (silence) ←
15:07:57 <AxelPolleres> RESOLVED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2011-12-20
RESOLVED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2011-12-20 ←
15:08:10 <bglimm> Next regular call in a week's time
Birte Glimm: Next regular call in a week's time ←
15:08:11 <AxelPolleres> Next regular meeting: 2012-01-10 @ 15:00 UK / 10:00 EST (scribe: Axel Polleres)
Axel Polleres: Next regular meeting: 2012-01-10 @ 15:00 UK / 10:00 EST (scribe: Axel Polleres) ←
15:08:20 <bglimm> Axel is next on the scribe list
Birte Glimm: Axel is next on the scribe list ←
15:08:32 <bglimm> No report from the RDF WG?
Birte Glimm: No report from the RDF WG? ←
15:08:43 <AndyS1> Nothing to report
Andy Seaborne: Nothing to report ←
15:09:04 <bglimm> We skip this then and go to the publication issues
Birte Glimm: We skip this then and go to the publication issues ←
15:09:30 <bglimm> We have several documents to be published, but Jan 2nd is no longer an option
Birte Glimm: We have several documents to be published, but Jan 2nd is no longer an option ←
15:09:41 <bglimm> ... We need to decide on another publication date
Birte Glimm: ... We need to decide on another publication date ←
15:09:52 <bglimm> ... Jan 5th was discussed on the mailing list
Birte Glimm: ... Jan 5th was discussed on the mailing list ←
15:09:58 <bglimm> ... Is that feasible?
Birte Glimm: ... Is that feasible? ←
15:10:29 <bglimm> Sandro: I think 5th is the first available pub date
Sandro Hawke: I think 5th is the first available pub date [ Scribe Assist by Birte Glimm ] ←
15:10:39 <bglimm> Axel: We could go for Jan 9th as well
Axel Polleres: We could go for Jan 9th as well [ Scribe Assist by Birte Glimm ] ←
15:11:02 <bglimm> Sandro: We can publish Mondays and Thursdays
Sandro Hawke: We can publish Mondays and Thursdays [ Scribe Assist by Birte Glimm ] ←
15:11:18 <bglimm> Axel: So we could decide for 5th or 10th Jan
Axel Polleres: So we could decide for 5th or 10th Jan [ Scribe Assist by Birte Glimm ] ←
15:11:25 <AxelPolleres> 5th or 10th... try for the earliest possible.
Axel Polleres: 5th or 10th... try for the earliest possible. ←
15:11:30 <bglimm> ... We could try the earliest possible
Birte Glimm: ... We could try the earliest possible ←
15:11:57 <bglimm> ... I used a wrong text on possibly skipping CR
Birte Glimm: ... I used a wrong text on possibly skipping CR ←
15:12:33 <bglimm> ... it is almost as required, but I suggest to stick exactly to the resolution text
Birte Glimm: ... it is almost as required, but I suggest to stick exactly to the resolution text ←
15:13:07 <AxelPolleres> Change the text referring to possibly skipping CR as per last time's resolution: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2011-12-20#resolution_8
Axel Polleres: Change the text referring to possibly skipping CR as per last time's resolution: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2011-12-20#resolution_8 ←
15:13:39 <bglimm> AxelPolleres: I asked myself whether we should do something with the change logs
Axel Polleres: I asked myself whether we should do something with the change logs [ Scribe Assist by Birte Glimm ] ←
15:13:55 <bglimm> ... Some documents still have change logs from previous versions
Birte Glimm: ... Some documents still have change logs from previous versions ←
15:14:01 <bglimm> ... These should be removed
Birte Glimm: ... These should be removed ←
15:14:42 <AxelPolleres> let's go through documents
Axel Polleres: let's go through documents ←
15:14:46 <bglimm> ... we go through the docs one by one
Birte Glimm: ... we go through the docs one by one ←
15:14:51 <bglimm> .. starting with Query
Birte Glimm: .. starting with Query ←
15:15:12 <AxelPolleres> Query... mail from Andy: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012JanMar/0007.html
Axel Polleres: Query... mail from Andy: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012JanMar/0007.html ←
15:15:39 <bglimm> We need to check that it is LC and put in the required comment text
Birte Glimm: We need to check that it is LC and put in the required comment text ←
15:15:56 <bglimm> The text for possibly skipping CR is the one from the resolution
Birte Glimm: The text for possibly skipping CR is the one from the resolution ←
15:16:29 <bglimm> Query is ready to go
Birte Glimm: Query is ready to go ←
15:16:30 <AndyS1> query HTML checked into CVS
Andy Seaborne: query HTML checked into CVS ←
15:16:37 <AxelPolleres> Entailment regimes ready to go?
Axel Polleres: Entailment regimes ready to go? ←
15:16:39 <AndyS1> ... under pub/
Andy Seaborne: ... under pub/ ←
15:16:39 <bglimm> AxelPolleres: Entailment Regimes?
Axel Polleres: Entailment Regimes? [ Scribe Assist by Birte Glimm ] ←
15:16:46 <bglimm> bglimm: Ready to go
Birte Glimm: Ready to go [ Scribe Assist by Birte Glimm ] ←
15:17:01 <AxelPolleres> pub/20120102/WD-sparql11-query-201120105/
Axel Polleres: pub/20120102/WD-sparql11-query-201120105/ ←
15:17:13 <AxelPolleres> pub/20120102/WD-sparql11-query-20120105/
Axel Polleres: pub/20120102/WD-sparql11-query-20120105/ ←
15:17:46 <AxelPolleres> pub/20120102/
Axel Polleres: pub/20120102/ ←
15:18:03 <bglimm> AxelPolleres: documents should be in the pub/20120102/ folder
Axel Polleres: documents should be in the pub/20120102/ folder [ Scribe Assist by Birte Glimm ] ←
15:19:09 <bglimm> AxelPolleres: Update still had two open comments
Axel Polleres: Update still had two open comments [ Scribe Assist by Birte Glimm ] ←
15:19:17 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Comments#Last_Call_comments ...
Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Comments#Last_Call_comments ... ←
15:19:28 <bglimm> ... at least they are makred as open on the comments page
Birte Glimm: ... at least they are makred as open on the comments page ←
15:19:39 <bglimm> BV-5 and NL-1
Birte Glimm: DB-5 and NL-1 ←
15:19:44 <AxelPolleres> DB-5 and NL-1 look still open
Axel Polleres: DB-5 and NL-1 look still open ←
15:19:59 <bglimm> s/BV-5/DB-5/
15:20:21 <bglimm> The first one is addressed,, but the wiki was not updated
Birte Glimm: The first one is addressed,, but the wiki was not updated ←
15:21:13 <AndyS1> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/CommentResponse:DB-5 exists, not linked
Andy Seaborne: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/CommentResponse:DB-5 exists, not linked ←
15:21:21 <bglimm> Paul?: NL-1 is about query and not update
Birte Glimm: Paul?: NL-1 is about query and not update ←
15:22:19 <bglimm> AxelPolleres: It probably doen't make sense to touch the doc now, we can leave that for a future version of the spec
Axel Polleres: It probably doen't make sense to touch the doc now, we can leave that for a future version of the spec [ Scribe Assist by Birte Glimm ] ←
15:22:25 <AndyS1> (one moment)
Andy Seaborne: (one moment) ←
15:23:03 <bglimm> ... NL-1 is definitely about Query
Birte Glimm: ... NL-1 is definitely about Query ←
15:23:28 <bglimm> AndyS1: Looking at the use-case he must do a full construct
Andy Seaborne: Looking at the use-case he must do a full construct [ Scribe Assist by Birte Glimm ] ←
15:23:32 <bglimm> ... due to the filters
Birte Glimm: ... due to the filters ←
15:23:54 <bglimm> ... I can see some restricted cases that we could address with the current design
Birte Glimm: ... I can see some restricted cases that we could address with the current design ←
15:24:34 <bglimm> ... It seems to be a query that should return all touched triples
Birte Glimm: ... It seems to be a query that should return all touched triples ←
15:24:43 <LeeF> It's why we put the limitation in
Lee Feigenbaum: It's why we put the limitation in ←
15:24:47 <bglimm> SteveH: We have discussed this at one of the F2Fs
Steve Harris: We have discussed this at one of the F2Fs [ Scribe Assist by Birte Glimm ] ←
15:24:47 <LeeF> because doing the alternative was too... icky
Lee Feigenbaum: because doing the alternative was too... icky ←
15:25:06 <bglimm> AxelPolleres: We didn't want to tough this
Axel Polleres: We didn't want to tough this [ Scribe Assist by Birte Glimm ] ←
15:25:16 <bglimm> .... extensions could be put on the future issues list
Birte Glimm: .... extensions could be put on the future issues list ←
15:25:33 <bglimm> ... we could use our standard reply for future issues
Birte Glimm: ... we could use our standard reply for future issues ←
15:25:43 <bglimm> ... I can draft a reply along these lines
Birte Glimm: ... I can draft a reply along these lines ←
15:25:51 <bglimm> ... unless there are other volunteer
Birte Glimm: ... unless there are other volunteer ←
15:26:04 <bglimm> AndyS1: I don't even fully understand his example
Andy Seaborne: I don't even fully understand his example [ Scribe Assist by Birte Glimm ] ←
15:26:16 <bglimm> AxelPolleres: I'll just do a high level reply
Axel Polleres: I'll just do a high level reply [ Scribe Assist by Birte Glimm ] ←
15:26:52 <bglimm> AndyS: I wouldn't go into extensions of the short form. There is always the long form for complicated use cases.
Andy Seaborne: I wouldn't go into extensions of the short form. There is always the long form for complicated use cases. [ Scribe Assist by Birte Glimm ] ←
15:27:08 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Axel to draft a reply to NL-1 pointing �to stay on the basic level for the CONSTRUCT WHERE shortcut, and that there's the full form for more complex cases
ACTION: Axel to draft a reply to NL-1 pointing �to stay on the basic level for the CONSTRUCT WHERE shortcut, and that there's the full form for more complex cases ←
15:27:09 <trackbot> Could not create new action (failed to parse response from server) - please contact sysreq with the details of what happened.
Trackbot IRC Bot: Could not create new action (failed to parse response from server) - please contact sysreq with the details of what happened. ←
15:27:09 <trackbot> Could not create new action (unparseable data in server response: local variable 'd' referenced before assignment) - please contact sysreq with the details of what happened.
Trackbot IRC Bot: Could not create new action (unparseable data in server response: local variable 'd' referenced before assignment) - please contact sysreq with the details of what happened. ←
15:27:52 <AndyS1> His use case does seem clear (to me) what the template would be if UNION and filters involved (e.g. UNION arms have partial overlaps of patterns used)
Andy Seaborne: His use case does seem clear (to me) what the template would be if UNION and filters involved (e.g. UNION arms have partial overlaps of patterns used) ←
15:27:58 <bglimm> AxelPolleres: No actions either. Comments seem addressable, so Update is ready to go
Axel Polleres: No actions either. Comments seem addressable, so Update is ready to go [ Scribe Assist by Birte Glimm ] ←
15:28:07 <bglimm> ... Service Descriptions?
Birte Glimm: ... Service Descriptions? ←
15:28:23 <bglimm> Greg: not ready yet due to pub rule checking issues
Gregory Williams: not ready yet due to pub rule checking issues [ Scribe Assist by Birte Glimm ] ←
15:28:46 <bglimm> Sorry I dropped out, but not due to lack of credit
Birte Glimm: Sorry I dropped out, but not due to lack of credit ←
15:28:50 <bglimm> will dial in again
Birte Glimm: will dial in again ←
15:29:11 <AndyS1> scribenick: AndyS1
(Scribe set to Andy Seaborne)
15:29:26 <AxelPolleres> greg: will turn to protocol once SD is ready
Gregory Williams: will turn to protocol once SD is ready [ Scribe Assist by Axel Polleres ] ←
15:29:49 <AndyS1> end document state review
end document state review ←
15:30:17 <AndyS1> for the review period of 4 weeks, exactly 4 weeks or one month?
for the review period of 4 weeks, exactly 4 weeks or one month? ←
15:30:27 <AxelPolleres> sandro?
Axel Polleres: sandro? ←
15:30:58 <AndyS1> sandro: does not matter - prefer to end day before a WG TC
Sandro Hawke: does not matter - prefer to end day before a WG TC ←
15:31:01 <bglimm> I am back
Birte Glimm: I am back ←
15:31:41 <AxelPolleres> let's choose a date 1 day before the coming WG meeting after 4 weeks have passed...
Axel Polleres: let's choose a date 1 day before the coming WG meeting after 4 weeks have passed... ←
15:32:26 <bglimm> AxelPolleres: The next point on the agenda is to check on the status of the other documents
Axel Polleres: The next point on the agenda is to check on the status of the other documents [ Scribe Assist by Birte Glimm ] ←
15:32:37 <AndyS1> axel: other docs - graphstore protocol
Axel Polleres: other docs - graphstore protocol ←
15:32:37 <bglimm> ... we didn't decide on the graph store protocoll yet
Birte Glimm: ... we didn't decide on the graph store protocoll yet ←
15:32:48 <bglimm> ... can anybody report?
Birte Glimm: ... can anybody report? ←
15:34:03 <AxelPolleres> plan to publish soon, sandro reports to mainly have agreed on the crucial points with Chime.
Axel Polleres: plan to publish soon, sandro reports to mainly have agreed on the crucial points with Chime. ←
15:34:12 <bglimm> ?: I am not sure what the status is now
Birte Glimm: ?: I am not sure what the status is now ←
15:34:28 <AndyS1> My preference is to see text in doc (inc ptr to changed text to make it easier to find)
My preference is to see text in doc (inc ptr to changed text to make it easier to find) ←
15:34:33 <bglimm> ... I talked to Chime, but I am not sure what his schedule is
Birte Glimm: ... I talked to Chime, but I am not sure what his schedule is ←
15:34:33 <AxelPolleres> ...right after publication, let's focus on it in next week's telecon and try to resolve wording issues by then per email
Axel Polleres: ...right after publication, let's focus on it in next week's telecon and try to resolve wording issues by then per email ←
15:35:02 <bglimm> AxelPolleres: Let's discuss by email, so we can decide about the doc next week
Axel Polleres: Let's discuss by email, so we can decide about the doc next week [ Scribe Assist by Birte Glimm ] ←
15:35:15 <bglimm> ... We got some feedback for protocol
Birte Glimm: ... We got some feedback for protocol ←
15:35:23 <bglimm> ... I am not sure how to treat this
Birte Glimm: ... I am not sure how to treat this ←
15:35:24 <AxelPolleres> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012JanMar/0003.html ... an early last call comment?
Axel Polleres: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012JanMar/0003.html ... an early last call comment? ←
15:35:29 <bglimm> ... as an early LC comment?
Birte Glimm: ... as an early LC comment? ←
15:35:39 <bglimm> Sandro?: I guess that makes sense
Birte Glimm: Sandro?: I guess that makes sense ←
15:36:29 <bglimm> AxelPolleres: Is there anything that says we address need another last call if we make changes
Axel Polleres: Is there anything that says we address need another last call if we make changes [ Scribe Assist by Birte Glimm ] ←
15:36:42 <AxelPolleres> Lee: only critical thing could be conformance criteria
Lee Feigenbaum: only critical thing could be conformance criteria [ Scribe Assist by Axel Polleres ] ←
15:37:14 <bglimm> LeeF: The doc says that if you implement query then you need to do it in one of the 3 specified ways
Lee Feigenbaum: The doc says that if you implement query then you need to do it in one of the 3 specified ways [ Scribe Assist by Birte Glimm ] ←
15:37:41 <bglimm> ... it is not clear whether you have to implement all 3
Birte Glimm: ... it is not clear whether you have to implement all 3 ←
15:38:10 <bglimm> .... it is not too clear whether you are performant if you support one of those or whether you have to support all 3
Birte Glimm: .... it is not too clear whether you are performant if you support one of those or whether you have to support all 3 ←
15:38:25 <AndyS1> Any reason not to require GET ?
Any reason not to require GET ? ←
15:38:46 <bglimm> AxelPolleres: If a clarification requires another call, shouldn't we wait another week to get clarity about this?
Axel Polleres: If a clarification requires another call, shouldn't we wait another week to get clarity about this? [ Scribe Assist by Birte Glimm ] ←
15:39:03 <kasei> I'd be happy supporting a requirement for all of the 3 styles.
Gregory Williams: I'd be happy supporting a requirement for all of the 3 styles. ←
15:39:04 <bglimm> Sandro: We could add an at risk note
Sandro Hawke: We could add an at risk note [ Scribe Assist by Birte Glimm ] ←
15:39:35 <bglimm> LeeF: Can we check on IRC whether we have consensus about this?
Lee Feigenbaum: Can we check on IRC whether we have consensus about this? [ Scribe Assist by Birte Glimm ] ←
15:40:27 <kasei> q+
Gregory Williams: q+ ←
15:40:41 <bglimm> ... if we follow Gregs proposal to require all three, it is a higher burden on implementors
Birte Glimm: ... if we follow Gregs proposal to require all three, it is a higher burden on implementors ←
15:41:03 <bglimm> AndyS: If we require all three, we should say why
Andy Seaborne: If we require all three, we should say why [ Scribe Assist by Birte Glimm ] ←
15:41:07 <LeeF> ack kasei
Lee Feigenbaum: ack kasei ←
15:41:28 <bglimm> kasei: If we only require GET and give the option to also implement the others
Gregory Williams: If we only require GET and give the option to also implement the others [ Scribe Assist by Birte Glimm ] ←
15:41:37 <bglimm> ... and describe this in the SDs?
Birte Glimm: ... and describe this in the SDs? ←
15:41:57 <bglimm> AndyS: But it is not just between a client and server
Andy Seaborne: But it is not just between a client and server [ Scribe Assist by Birte Glimm ] ←
15:42:11 <bglimm> ... to see iwhether GET works you might just have to try and see whether it works
Birte Glimm: ... to see iwhether GET works you might just have to try and see whether it works ←
15:42:32 <bglimm> AxelPolleres: What worries me is that we don't have any text there yet
Axel Polleres: What worries me is that we don't have any text there yet [ Scribe Assist by Birte Glimm ] ←
15:42:44 <bglimm> LeeF: But it is just one sentence in the Conformance section
Lee Feigenbaum: But it is just one sentence in the Conformance section [ Scribe Assist by Birte Glimm ] ←
15:43:19 <SteveH> I don't think we have a easy way to implement direct POST
Steve Harris: I don't think we have a easy way to implement direct POST ←
15:43:37 <bglimm> .... The client doesn't have to implement all three, only the server
Birte Glimm: .... The client doesn't have to implement all three, only the server ←
15:44:21 <bglimm> LeeF, could you scribe the proposed text?
Birte Glimm: LeeF, could you scribe the proposed text? ←
15:44:25 <AxelPolleres> Server MUST implement all forms, client MUST� implement one form to be compliant
Axel Polleres: Server MUST implement all forms, client MUST� implement one form to be conformant ←
15:44:58 <AxelPolleres> s/compliant/conformant/
15:44:58 <bglimm> LeeF: Is anybody really worried if we have MUST for all three forms for the sever?
Lee Feigenbaum: Is anybody really worried if we have MUST for all three forms for the sever? [ Scribe Assist by Birte Glimm ] ←
15:45:31 <bglimm> Steve: The problem we have is that the HTTP server is custom code. We would have to add another one apart from GET and POST
Steve Harris: The problem we have is that the HTTP server is custom code. We would have to add another one apart from GET and POST [ Scribe Assist by Birte Glimm ] ←
15:45:36 <bglimm> ... not a real blocker
Birte Glimm: ... not a real blocker ←
15:47:23 <AxelPolleres> discussion about motivation for direct POST
Axel Polleres: discussion about motivation for direct POST ←
15:47:47 <bglimm> AxelPolleres: LeeF, will you draft a text and email that?
Axel Polleres: LeeF, will you draft a text and email that? [ Scribe Assist by Birte Glimm ] ←
15:48:05 <bglimm> LeeF: Yes, I'll mail it and we can see whether there are objections to that
Lee Feigenbaum: Yes, I'll mail it and we can see whether there are objections to that [ Scribe Assist by Birte Glimm ] ←
15:48:47 <bglimm> AxelPolleres: Putting that text at risk doesn't really help us
Axel Polleres: Putting that text at risk doesn't really help us [ Scribe Assist by Birte Glimm ] ←
15:49:55 <AxelPolleres> PROPOSED: Lee to �draft conformance text on the mailinglist which we put into the publication of protocol, unless objections (adendum to resolution http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2011-12-20#resolution_6)
PROPOSED: Lee to �draft conformance text on the mailinglist which we put into the publication of protocol, unless objections (adendum to resolution http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2011-12-20#resolution_6) ←
15:50:15 <bglimm> AxelPolleres: Would this address Thomas comment?
Axel Polleres: Would this address Thomas comment? [ Scribe Assist by Birte Glimm ] ←
15:50:51 <bglimm> LeeF: There is a fair amount of work to be done, but should be ok
Lee Feigenbaum: There is a fair amount of work to be done, but should be ok [ Scribe Assist by Birte Glimm ] ←
15:51:05 <bglimm> +1 to the proposal
Birte Glimm: +1 to the proposal ←
15:51:32 <AxelPolleres> RESOLVED: Lee to draft conformance text on the mailinglist which we put into the publication of protocol, unless objections (adendum to resolution http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2011-12-20#resolution_6)
RESOLVED: Lee to draft conformance text on the mailinglist which we put into the publication of protocol, unless objections (adendum to resolution http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2011-12-20#resolution_6) ←
15:51:34 <bglimm> AxelPolleres: No objections?
Axel Polleres: No objections? [ Scribe Assist by Birte Glimm ] ←
15:52:02 <bglimm> AxelPollere: Lee, will you have any time to work on the publication?
Axel Polleres: Lee, will you have any time to work on the publication? [ Scribe Assist by Birte Glimm ] ←
15:52:09 <bglimm> LeeF: Not sure
Lee Feigenbaum: Not sure [ Scribe Assist by Birte Glimm ] ←
15:52:28 <bglimm> AxelPolleres: I'll try to look at the documents tomorrow evening
Axel Polleres: I'll try to look at the documents tomorrow evening [ Scribe Assist by Birte Glimm ] ←
15:52:52 <AxelPolleres> Axel: Lee, please take care of protocol, I will check all other docs tomorrow night.
Axel Polleres: Lee, please take care of protocol, I will check all other docs tomorrow night. [ Scribe Assist by Axel Polleres ] ←
15:53:07 <AxelPolleres> adjourned
Axel Polleres: adjourned ←
15:53:07 <bglimm> adjourned
Birte Glimm: adjourned ←
15:53:37 <AxelPolleres> rrsagent, make records public
Axel Polleres: rrsagent, make records public ←
15:53:38 <bglimm> RRSAgent, make logs world
Birte Glimm: RRSAgent, make logs world ←
15:53:56 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2012/01/03-sparql-irc
Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2012/01/03-sparql-irc ←
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