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13:55:54 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 77277
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13:55:54 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM scheduled to start in 5 minutes
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13:55:55 <trackbot> Meeting: SPARQL Working Group Teleconference
13:55:55 <trackbot> Date: 04 October 2011
13:55:56 <LeeF> zakim, this will be SPARQL
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13:55:56 <Zakim> ok, LeeF; I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM scheduled to start in 5 minutes
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13:56:03 <LeeF> Chair: AxelPolleres
13:56:26 <LeeF> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2011OctDec/0010.html
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13:56:45 <Zakim> +??P2
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13:56:55 <NickH> zakim, ??P2 is me
Nicholas Humfrey: zakim, ??P2 is me ←
13:56:55 <Zakim> +NickH; got it
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13:57:04 <NickH> zakim, mute me
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13:57:04 <Zakim> sorry, NickH, muting is not permitted when only one person is present
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13:57:09 <NickH> heh
Nicholas Humfrey: heh ←
13:57:14 <kasei> ha
Gregory Williams: ha ←
13:57:29 <LeeF> why in the world would that be?
Lee Feigenbaum: why in the world would that be? ←
13:57:30 <Zakim> +kasei
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13:57:36 <NickH> zakim, mute me
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13:57:36 <Zakim> NickH should now be muted
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13:58:10 <LeeF> Regrets: SteveH, Chimezie
13:59:22 <Zakim> +??P4
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13:59:31 <cbuilara> zakim, ??P4 is me
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13:59:31 <Zakim> +cbuilara; got it
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13:59:42 <Zakim> + +1.781.899.aaaa
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13:59:51 <sandro> zakim, aaaa is Sandro
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13:59:51 <Zakim> +Sandro; got it
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13:59:57 <Zakim> +??P19
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14:00:04 <Zakim> +Bernard
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14:00:07 <AndyS> zakim, ??P19 is me
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14:00:07 <Zakim> +AndyS; got it
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14:00:18 <AndyS> kasei - not had a chance yet.
Andy Seaborne: kasei - not had a chance yet. ←
14:00:58 <Zakim> + +1.603.897.aabb
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14:00:58 <kasei> AndyS: ok. i'll try to work through it in more depth
Andy Seaborne: ok. i'll try to work through it in more depth [ Scribe Assist by Gregory Williams ] ←
14:01:11 <MattPerry> zakim, aabb is me
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14:01:11 <Zakim> +MattPerry; got it
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14:01:40 <Zakim> + +1.540.841.aacc
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14:02:04 <pgearon> Zakim, aacc is me
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14:02:07 <Zakim> +pgearon; got it
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14:03:25 <Zakim> + +1.617.553.aadd
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14:03:29 <LeeF> zakim, aadd is me
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14:03:29 <Zakim> +LeeF; got it
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14:03:55 <Zakim> +??P29
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14:04:16 <LeeF> zakim, who's on the phone?
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14:04:16 <Zakim> On the phone I see NickH (muted), kasei, cbuilara, Sandro, AndyS, Bernard, MattPerry, pgearon, LeeF, ??P29
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14:04:39 <LeeF> zakim, ??P29 is AxelPolleres
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14:04:48 <Zakim> +AxelPolleres; got it
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14:05:11 <LeeF> zakim, Bernard is Olivier
Lee Feigenbaum: zakim, Bernard is Olivier ←
14:05:11 <Zakim> +Olivier; got it
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14:05:50 <LeeF> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2011OctDec/0010.html
Lee Feigenbaum: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2011OctDec/0010.html ←
14:06:18 <kasei> I can
Gregory Williams: I can ←
14:06:23 <LeeF> scribenick: kasei
(Scribe set to Gregory Williams)
14:06:27 <LeeF> topic: admin
14:06:39 <Zakim> + +49.731.502.aaee
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14:06:40 <LeeF> PROPOSED: Approve minutes from http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2011-09-27
PROPOSED: Approve minutes from http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2011-09-27 ←
14:06:56 <bglimm> Zakim, +49.731.502.aaee is me
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14:06:56 <Zakim> +bglimm; got it
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14:07:00 <bglimm> Zakim, mute me
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14:07:00 <Zakim> bglimm should now be muted
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14:07:08 <LeeF> RESOLVED: Approve minutes from http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2011-09-27
RESOLVED: Approve minutes from http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2011-09-27 ←
14:07:36 <LeeF> Next regular meeting: 2011-10-11 @ 15:00 UK / 10:00 EST (scribe: Sandro)
Lee Feigenbaum: Next regular meeting: 2011-10-11 @ 15:00 UK / 10:00 EST (scribe: Sandro) ←
14:07:45 <Olivier> regrets for next week
Olivier Corby: regrets for next week ←
14:07:53 <LeeF> next week regrets: axel & olivier
Lee Feigenbaum: next week regrets: axel & olivier ←
14:08:17 <kasei> topic: liaison with RDF WG
14:08:35 <kasei> AndyS: not much progress... named graphs discussions continue.
Andy Seaborne: not much progress... named graphs discussions continue. ←
14:08:59 <kasei> ... been waiting on concensus on discussion on RDF Datasets
... been waiting on concensus on discussion on RDF Datasets ←
14:09:11 <kasei> ... until entire framework is resolved, wouldn't want to make changes.
... until entire framework is resolved, wouldn't want to make changes. ←
14:09:29 <kasei> ... we're not at a point yet where we have to decide.
... we're not at a point yet where we have to decide. ←
14:09:37 <kasei> LeeF: I don't think the current wording is a problem.
Lee Feigenbaum: I don't think the current wording is a problem. ←
14:09:48 <kasei> ... hasn't caused problems with implementors.
... hasn't caused problems with implementors. ←
14:10:07 <LeeF> topic: string functions
14:10:28 <kasei> LeeF: continuing dicussion from Jeen's comment on motivation for string functions
Lee Feigenbaum: continuing dicussion from Jeen's comment on motivation for string functions ←
14:10:36 <kasei> ... 1- vs. 0-indexed functions
... 1- vs. 0-indexed functions ←
14:10:47 <kasei> ... trying to decide why we don't have an index function
... trying to decide why we don't have an index function ←
14:11:01 <kasei> ... substring-before and substring-after handle same use cases
... substring-before and substring-after handle same use cases ←
14:11:13 <kasei> ... Andy proposed adding substring-before, substring-after, and replace functions.
... Andy proposed adding substring-before, substring-after, and replace functions. ←
14:11:21 <kasei> ... some support for that.
... some support for that. ←
14:11:35 <kasei> ... questions: some other functions from RIF. should we include them?
... questions: some other functions from RIF. should we include them? ←
14:11:48 <kasei> ... also from greg regarding unicode.
... also from greg regarding unicode. ←
14:11:56 <AndyS> q+ to ask Axel about fn:string-join
Andy Seaborne: q+ to ask Axel about fn:string-join ←
14:12:31 <LeeF> kasei: if we ground these functions in the XSD definitions of substring before and substring after, i looked at the definition and wasn't sure i could implement them
Gregory Williams: if we ground these functions in the XSD definitions of substring before and substring after, i looked at the definition and wasn't sure i could implement them [ Scribe Assist by Lee Feigenbaum ] ←
14:12:42 <AndyS> q+ to say without "collation" as with other functions.
Andy Seaborne: q+ to say without "collation" as with other functions. ←
14:12:45 <LeeF> ... seemed like it required deep understanding of lots of specs to do the pattern matching properly
Lee Feigenbaum: ... seemed like it required deep understanding of lots of specs to do the pattern matching properly ←
14:13:05 <LeeF> AndyS: We could add without the versions with collation
Andy Seaborne: We could add without the versions with collation [ Scribe Assist by Lee Feigenbaum ] ←
14:13:11 <kasei> AndyS: i think we'd add them without the collation. we haven't adopted collation forms of other functions in the past.
Andy Seaborne: i think we'd add them without the collation. we haven't adopted collation forms of other functions in the past. ←
14:13:37 <kasei> ... implemented in ~3 lines of java. nothing unusual going on.
... implemented in ~3 lines of java. nothing unusual going on. ←
14:13:51 <AxelPolleres> fine without collation (ie, standard codepoint collation always)?
Axel Polleres: fine without collation (ie, standard codepoint collation always)? ←
14:14:29 <kasei> AxelPolleres: those functions have two variants. with and without collation.
Axel Polleres: those functions have two variants. with and without collation. ←
14:14:38 <kasei> ... proposal here is to adopt the non-collation versions?
... proposal here is to adopt the non-collation versions? ←
14:14:43 <kasei> AndyS: yes
Andy Seaborne: yes ←
14:15:11 <AndyS> ack me
Andy Seaborne: ack me ←
14:15:11 <Zakim> AndyS, you wanted to ask Axel about fn:string-join and to say without "collation" as with other functions.
Zakim IRC Bot: AndyS, you wanted to ask Axel about fn:string-join and to say without "collation" as with other functions. ←
14:15:13 <kasei> LeeF: other functions: string-join, some stuff about IRIs
Lee Feigenbaum: other functions: string-join, some stuff about IRIs ←
14:15:25 <kasei> AxelPolleres: IRI to URI
Axel Polleres: IRI to URI ←
14:15:46 <kasei> AndyS: why do you want to add str-join? what's the difference over what we've already got?
Andy Seaborne: why do you want to add str-join? what's the difference over what we've already got? ←
14:15:54 <kasei> AxelPolleres: I had overlooked it.
Axel Polleres: I had overlooked it. ←
14:16:07 <kasei> AxelPolleres: str-join isn't the same as concat. adding a separator.
Axel Polleres: str-join isn't the same as concat. adding a separator. ←
14:16:29 <kasei> ... we didn't have sequences in RIF. arbitrary number of parameters with a separator.
... we didn't have sequences in RIF. arbitrary number of parameters with a separator. ←
14:16:38 <kasei> AndyS: you can write the same thing with concat.
Andy Seaborne: you can write the same thing with concat. ←
14:16:49 <kasei> ... arbitrary length list is really fixed by syntax
... arbitrary length list is really fixed by syntax ←
14:17:22 <Zakim> -cbuilara
Zakim IRC Bot: -cbuilara ←
14:17:24 <kasei> LeeF: what about the other functions?
Lee Feigenbaum: what about the other functions? ←
14:17:47 <kasei> AxelPolleres: should go through them since we have them in RIF.
Axel Polleres: should go through them since we have them in RIF. ←
14:18:47 <LeeF> LeeF: what is the IRI to URI function all about?
Lee Feigenbaum: what is the IRI to URI function all about? [ Scribe Assist by Lee Feigenbaum ] ←
14:18:55 <LeeF> AxelPolleres: opeates on strings and converts from URIs to IRIs
Axel Polleres: opeates on strings and converts from URIs to IRIs [ Scribe Assist by Lee Feigenbaum ] ←
14:18:57 <kasei> ah. fixed. thanks LeeF.
ah. fixed. thanks LeeF. ←
14:19:03 <Zakim> +??P10
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14:19:15 <AndyS> And it's not reversible? No uri to iri function in RIF?
Andy Seaborne: And it's not reversible? No uri to iri function in RIF? ←
14:19:40 <kasei> AxelPolleres: third function is escape-html-uri
Axel Polleres: third function is escape-html-uri ←
14:19:51 <kasei> ... comes from xpath/xquery functions.
... comes from xpath/xquery functions. ←
14:20:06 <kasei> ... escapes non-printable characters
... escapes non-printable characters ←
14:20:20 <kasei> ... for use in attribute values.
... for use in attribute values. ←
14:20:26 <Zakim> -??P10
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14:20:40 <kasei> LeeF: we didn't set out trying to match RIF functions. haven't heard from anybody asking for these functions.
Lee Feigenbaum: we didn't set out trying to match RIF functions. haven't heard from anybody asking for these functions. ←
14:20:44 <kasei> ... inclined to leave them out.
... inclined to leave them out. ←
14:20:46 <Zakim> +??P10
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14:20:49 <cbuilara_> zakim, ??P10 is me
Carlos Buil Aranda: zakim, ??P10 is me ←
14:20:49 <Zakim> +cbuilara_; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +cbuilara_; got it ←
14:20:59 <kasei> AxelPolleres: that's fine.
Axel Polleres: that's fine. ←
14:21:24 <kasei> AndyS: seems troublesome to have one-way functions.
Andy Seaborne: seems troublesome to have one-way functions. ←
14:21:33 <kasei> ... string-join isn't the same as the F&O function.
... string-join isn't the same as the F&O function. ←
14:21:39 <kasei> ... does RIF define it to be the same as F&O?
... does RIF define it to be the same as F&O? ←
14:22:25 <kasei> AxelPolleres: defines in terms of string-join by converting args (minus the separator) to a sequence
Axel Polleres: defines in terms of string-join by converting args (minus the separator) to a sequence ←
14:22:43 <Zakim> -cbuilara_
Zakim IRC Bot: -cbuilara_ ←
14:22:46 <kasei> LeeF: I'm not hearing anybody advocating for it.
Lee Feigenbaum: I'm not hearing anybody advocating for it. ←
14:22:50 <LeeF> PROPOSED: Include STRBEFORE, STRAFTER, and REPLACE in SPARQL 1.1 Query (only the versions without collations)
PROPOSED: Include STRBEFORE, STRAFTER, and REPLACE in SPARQL 1.1 Query (only the versions without collations) ←
14:23:07 <kasei> q+
q+ ←
14:23:11 <LeeF> ack kasei
Lee Feigenbaum: ack kasei ←
14:23:36 <LeeF> kasei: should we discuss whether this works with language literals and datatype literals?
Gregory Williams: should we discuss whether this works with language literals and datatype literals? [ Scribe Assist by Lee Feigenbaum ] ←
14:24:20 <LeeF> see http://www.w3.org/TR/sparql11-query/#func-starts
Lee Feigenbaum: see http://www.w3.org/TR/sparql11-query/#func-starts ←
14:24:32 <kasei> AndyS: roughly, if the arguments are the same, you can match them. otherwise you can't.
Andy Seaborne: roughly, if the arguments are the same, you can match them. otherwise you can't. ←
14:25:11 <kasei> AndyS: does STR() implicitly on the args.
Andy Seaborne: does STR() implicitly on the args. ←
14:25:17 <kasei> LeeF: they return strings, though.
Lee Feigenbaum: they return strings, though. ←
14:25:38 <kasei> AndyS: wold have to think about it. either it's a plain string, or it's the same as the input string.
Andy Seaborne: wold have to think about it. either it's a plain string, or it's the same as the input string. ←
14:25:58 <kasei> LeeF: inclination would be to have the result be the same as the input.
Lee Feigenbaum: inclination would be to have the result be the same as the input. ←
14:26:35 <AndyS> and consistency with CONTAINS
Andy Seaborne: and consistency with CONTAINS ←
14:26:38 <Zakim> +??P10
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14:26:44 <cbuilara_> zakim, ??P10 is me
Carlos Buil Aranda: zakim, ??P10 is me ←
14:26:44 <Zakim> +cbuilara_; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +cbuilara_; got it ←
14:27:05 <kasei> LeeF: what does SUBSTR do? returns language tags?
Lee Feigenbaum: what does SUBSTR do? returns language tags? ←
14:27:13 <kasei> AndyS: yes, returns same form as principle argument.
Andy Seaborne: yes, returns same form as principle argument. ←
14:27:19 <kasei> LeeF: so should do the same thing as SUBSTR.
Lee Feigenbaum: so should do the same thing as SUBSTR. ←
14:28:13 <kasei> +1
+1 ←
14:28:18 <AxelPolleres> +1
Axel Polleres: +1 ←
14:28:22 <LeeF> (to the proposal above)
Lee Feigenbaum: (to the proposal above) ←
14:28:34 <LeeF> RESOLVED: Include STRBEFORE, STRAFTER, and REPLACE in SPARQL 1.1 Query (only the versions without collations)
RESOLVED: Include STRBEFORE, STRAFTER, and REPLACE in SPARQL 1.1 Query (only the versions without collations) ←
14:29:03 <kasei> AndyS: will somebody do the tests?
Andy Seaborne: will somebody do the tests? ←
14:29:04 <AndyS> ACTION AndyS Draft text for STRBEFORE, STRAFTER, and REPLACE
Andy Seaborne: ACTION AndyS Draft text for STRBEFORE, STRAFTER, and REPLACE ←
14:29:04 <trackbot> Created ACTION-537 - Draft text for STRBEFORE, STRAFTER, and REPLACE [on Andy Seaborne - due 2011-10-11].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-537 - Draft text for STRBEFORE, STRAFTER, and REPLACE [on Andy Seaborne - due 2011-10-11]. ←
14:29:32 <kasei> I can do the tests
I can do the tests ←
14:29:45 <LeeF> ACTION: greg to write tests for STRBEFORE, STRAFTER, and REPLACE
ACTION: greg to write tests for STRBEFORE, STRAFTER, and REPLACE ←
14:29:45 <trackbot> Created ACTION-538 - Write tests for STRBEFORE, STRAFTER, and REPLACE [on Gregory Williams - due 2011-10-11].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-538 - Write tests for STRBEFORE, STRAFTER, and REPLACE [on Gregory Williams - due 2011-10-11]. ←
14:30:16 <kasei> LeeF: this should be enough to reply to Jeen?
Lee Feigenbaum: this should be enough to reply to Jeen? ←
14:30:23 <kasei> AndyS: for the first part. haven't dealt with hash functions yet.
Andy Seaborne: for the first part. haven't dealt with hash functions yet. ←
14:30:45 <kasei> LeeF: based on last week's discussion, we have concensus on keeping string functions 1-indexed.
Lee Feigenbaum: based on last week's discussion, we have concensus on keeping string functions 1-indexed. ←
14:31:11 <kasei> topic: hash functions
14:31:34 <LeeF> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2011JulSep/0314.html
Lee Feigenbaum: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2011JulSep/0314.html ←
14:31:37 <kasei> LeeF: Andy listed 3 proposals in email.
Lee Feigenbaum: Andy listed 3 proposals in email. ←
14:31:57 <LeeF> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2011JulSep/0320.html
Lee Feigenbaum: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2011JulSep/0320.html ←
14:32:32 <kasei> ... proposal 5 in that link was based on what xml digital signature group includes.
... proposal 5 in that link was based on what xml digital signature group includes. ←
14:32:48 <kasei> ... discussion on whether MD5 should be included due to security concerns.
... discussion on whether MD5 should be included due to security concerns. ←
14:32:57 <kasei> sandro: xml dig sig group does not include MD5
Sandro Hawke: xml dig sig group does not include MD5 ←
14:33:15 <AndyS> Who actively supports any SHA2-isms?
Andy Seaborne: Who actively supports any SHA2-isms? ←
14:33:30 <sandro> "who" in what sense?
Sandro Hawke: "who" in what sense? ←
14:33:39 <kasei> LeeF: variables on proposals being whether we include MD5, whether we include 3 variants of SHA2
Lee Feigenbaum: variables on proposals being whether we include MD5, whether we include 3 variants of SHA2 ←
14:33:41 <AndyS> "who" = WG member
Andy Seaborne: "who" = WG member ←
14:34:06 <kasei> ... proposal 5 is what's in the draft now but without SHA-224(?)
... proposal 5 is what's in the draft now but without SHA-224(?) ←
14:34:17 <sandro> +1 SHA2
Sandro Hawke: +1 SHA2 ←
14:34:29 <pgearon> +q
Paul Gearon: +q ←
14:34:48 <LeeF> ack pgearon
Lee Feigenbaum: ack pgearon ←
14:35:15 <kasei> pgearon: agree MD5 isn't secure, but run into use cases with legacy mysql code using MD5. convenient to be able to talk to those systems.
Paul Gearon: agree MD5 isn't secure, but run into use cases with legacy mysql code using MD5. convenient to be able to talk to those systems. ←
14:35:28 <kasei> ... would like to support inclusion of MD5
... would like to support inclusion of MD5 ←
14:35:37 <MattPerry> Oracle Database supports MD4, MD5 and SHA1
Matthew Perry: Oracle Database supports MD4, MD5 and SHA1 ←
14:36:01 <kasei> sandro: should include some note about MD5 not being secure w.r.t. cryptography, but included for non-crypto uses.
Sandro Hawke: should include some note about MD5 not being secure w.r.t. cryptography, but included for non-crypto uses. ←
14:36:28 <kasei> LeeF: easiest proposal is to remove SHA224. small change, addresses comment, mesh well with existing practice.
Lee Feigenbaum: easiest proposal is to remove SHA224. small change, addresses comment, mesh well with existing practice. ←
14:36:31 <AndyS> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MD5#Security "severe compromised" (for security)
Andy Seaborne: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MD5#Security "severe compromised" (for security) ←
14:36:59 <LeeF> PROPOSED: Remove SHA224 from SPARQL 1.1 Query; add text noting that MD5 shouldnot be used for cryptographic applications
PROPOSED: Remove SHA224 from SPARQL 1.1 Query; add text noting that MD5 shouldnot be used for cryptographic applications ←
14:37:05 <sandro> +1
Sandro Hawke: +1 ←
14:37:05 <AndyS> Only 2^24.1 ops -> easy!
Andy Seaborne: Only 2^24.1 ops -> easy! ←
14:37:06 <kasei> +1
+1 ←
14:37:12 <AndyS> +1
Andy Seaborne: +1 ←
14:37:25 <AxelPolleres> +1
Axel Polleres: +1 ←
14:37:28 <LeeF> RESOLVED: Remove SHA224 from SPARQL 1.1 Query; add text noting that MD5 shouldnot be used for cryptographic applications
RESOLVED: Remove SHA224 from SPARQL 1.1 Query; add text noting that MD5 shouldnot be used for cryptographic applications ←
14:38:04 <AndyS> ACTION AndyS Remove SHA224 from rq25; respond to JB-7
Andy Seaborne: ACTION AndyS Remove SHA224 from rq25; respond to JB-7 ←
14:38:04 <trackbot> Created ACTION-539 - Remove SHA224 from rq25; respond to JB-7 [on Andy Seaborne - due 2011-10-11].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-539 - Remove SHA224 from rq25; respond to JB-7 [on Andy Seaborne - due 2011-10-11]. ←
14:38:35 <AxelPolleres> q+ to ask about richard's comment
Axel Polleres: q+ to ask about richard's comment ←
14:38:48 <kasei> topic: comments
14:39:03 <LeeF> ack AxelPolleres
Lee Feigenbaum: ack AxelPolleres ←
14:39:03 <Zakim> AxelPolleres, you wanted to ask about richard's comment
Zakim IRC Bot: AxelPolleres, you wanted to ask about richard's comment ←
14:39:27 <kasei> AxelPolleres: what do people think about adding clarifying wording w.r.t. RDF datasets?
Axel Polleres: what do people think about adding clarifying wording w.r.t. RDF datasets? ←
14:39:42 <kasei> LeeF: discussed earlier about waiting on RDF WG's discussion about datasets.
Lee Feigenbaum: discussed earlier about waiting on RDF WG's discussion about datasets. ←
14:39:52 <AndyS> +1 to wait ; happy to improve text .... once
Andy Seaborne: +1 to wait ; happy to improve text .... once ←
14:39:59 <kasei> LeeF: hold off on replying to Richard
Lee Feigenbaum: hold off on replying to Richard ←
14:40:14 <Zakim> -NickH
Zakim IRC Bot: -NickH ←
14:40:26 <AndyS> Owner for this comment?
Andy Seaborne: Owner for this comment? ←
14:40:32 <LeeF> close ACTION-527
Lee Feigenbaum: close ACTION-527 ←
14:40:32 <trackbot> ACTION-527 Let us know where the impl report code is in git and to put the generated report file somewhere in our CVS space closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-527 Let us know where the impl report code is in git and to put the generated report file somewhere in our CVS space closed ←
14:40:48 <kasei> topic: actions
14:40:52 <AxelPolleres> AndyS, I can take the comment.
Axel Polleres: AndyS, I can take the comment. ←
14:41:11 <AndyS> Cool - do you want to add to wiki/Comments?
Andy Seaborne: Cool - do you want to add to wiki/Comments? ←
14:41:26 <kasei> AxelPolleres: would Matt and Andy be able to review document before last call?
Axel Polleres: would Matt and Andy be able to review document before last call? ←
14:41:26 <MattPerry> sure
Matthew Perry: sure ←
14:41:48 <kasei> AndyS: should be able to take a look
Andy Seaborne: should be able to take a look ←
14:41:53 <AndyS> Yes ( how much change?)
Andy Seaborne: Yes ( how much change?) ←
14:42:01 <LeeF> ACTION: Matthew to review the overview document after Axel sends a go-ahead
ACTION: Matthew to review the overview document after Axel sends a go-ahead ←
14:42:01 <trackbot> Created ACTION-540 - Review the overview document after Axel sends a go-ahead [on Matthew Perry - due 2011-10-11].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-540 - Review the overview document after Axel sends a go-ahead [on Matthew Perry - due 2011-10-11]. ←
14:42:06 <LeeF> ACTION: Andy to review the overview document after Axel sends a go-ahead
ACTION: Andy to review the overview document after Axel sends a go-ahead ←
14:42:06 <trackbot> Created ACTION-541 - Review the overview document after Axel sends a go-ahead [on Andy Seaborne - due 2011-10-11].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-541 - Review the overview document after Axel sends a go-ahead [on Andy Seaborne - due 2011-10-11]. ←
14:43:22 <bglimm> How will be at ISWC?
Birte Glimm: How will be at ISWC? ←
14:43:28 <bglimm> Zakim, unmute me
Birte Glimm: Zakim, unmute me ←
14:43:28 <Zakim> bglimm should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: bglimm should no longer be muted ←
14:43:36 <AxelPolleres> will be there
Axel Polleres: will be there ←
14:43:37 <kasei> I will
I will ←
14:43:41 <AndyS> I will be at ISWC
Andy Seaborne: I will be at ISWC ←
14:43:46 <bglimm> I will
Birte Glimm: I will ←
14:43:52 <AndyS> SPARQL tutorial ...
Andy Seaborne: SPARQL tutorial ... ←
14:44:08 <MattPerry> bye
Matthew Perry: bye ←
14:44:09 <Zakim> -LeeF
Zakim IRC Bot: -LeeF ←
14:44:11 <MattPerry> \quit
Matthew Perry: \quit ←
14:44:13 <Zakim> -AxelPolleres
Zakim IRC Bot: -AxelPolleres ←
14:44:15 <Zakim> -MattPerry
Zakim IRC Bot: -MattPerry ←
14:44:15 <Zakim> -pgearon
Zakim IRC Bot: -pgearon ←
14:44:16 <Zakim> -Olivier
Zakim IRC Bot: -Olivier ←
14:44:17 <Zakim> -bglimm
Zakim IRC Bot: -bglimm ←
14:44:19 <Zakim> -cbuilara_
Zakim IRC Bot: -cbuilara_ ←
14:44:22 <Zakim> -Sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: -Sandro ←
14:44:29 <Zakim> -kasei
Zakim IRC Bot: -kasei ←
14:44:34 <AndyS> I'll fix the tests for (removal of) SHA224
Andy Seaborne: I'll fix the tests for (removal of) SHA224 ←
14:44:37 <Zakim> -AndyS
Zakim IRC Bot: -AndyS ←
14:44:38 <Zakim> SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has ended
Zakim IRC Bot: SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has ended ←
14:44:40 <Zakim> Attendees were NickH, kasei, cbuilara, +1.781.899.aaaa, Sandro, AndyS, +1.603.897.aabb, MattPerry, +1.540.841.aacc, pgearon, +1.617.553.aadd, LeeF, AxelPolleres, Olivier, bglimm,
Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were NickH, kasei, cbuilara, +1.781.899.aaaa, Sandro, AndyS, +1.603.897.aabb, MattPerry, +1.540.841.aacc, pgearon, +1.617.553.aadd, LeeF, AxelPolleres, Olivier, bglimm, ←
14:44:42 <Zakim> ... cbuilara_
Zakim IRC Bot: ... cbuilara_ ←
14:44:50 <AxelPolleres> rrsagent, make records public
Axel Polleres: rrsagent, make records public ←
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