SPARQL

Minutes of 07 September 2010

Agenda
http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Agenda-2010-09-07
Seen
Alexandre Passant, Andy Seaborne, Birte Glimm, Chimezie Ogbuji, Gregory Williams, Ivan Herman, Lee Feigenbaum, Matthew Perry, Nicholas Humfrey, Olivier Corby, Paul Gearon, Sandro Hawke, Souripriya Das, Steve Harris
Regrets
Souripriya Das, Andy Seaborne
Chair
Lee Feigenbaum
Scribe
Birte Glimm
IRC Log
Original and Editable Wiki Version
Resolutions
  1. Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2010-08-31 link
  2. Approve tests agg-groupconcat-1, agg-groupconcat-2, and agg-groupconcat-3 link
  3. Approve tests projexp01 - projexp07 link
Topics
13:51:36 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2010/09/07-sparql-irc

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13:51:45 <bglimm> Zakim, this will be SPARQL

Birte Glimm: Zakim, this will be SPARQL

13:51:45 <Zakim> ok, bglimm; I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM scheduled to start in 9 minutes

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13:52:08 <bglimm> Scribe: Birte Glimm

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13:52:14 <bglimm> ScribeNick: bglimm
13:52:25 <bglimm> Chair: LeeF
13:52:55 <bglimm> Meeting: SPARQL
13:53:17 <bglimm> Agenda: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Agenda-2010-09-07
13:54:34 <Zakim> SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has now started

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13:54:40 <Zakim> +bglimm

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13:56:15 <bglimm> Regrets: Souripriya Das, Andy Seaborne
13:57:04 <LeeF> Regrets+ AxelPolleres

Lee Feigenbaum: Regrets+ AxelPolleres

13:57:38 <Zakim> +kasei

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13:57:48 <ivan> zakim, dial ivan-voip

Ivan Herman: zakim, dial ivan-voip

13:57:48 <Zakim> ok, ivan; the call is being made

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13:57:49 <Zakim> +Ivan

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13:57:52 <Zakim> +mischa

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13:58:00 <SteveH__> Zakim, mischa is [Garlik]

Steve Harris: Zakim, mischa is [Garlik]

13:58:02 <Zakim> +[Garlik]; got it

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13:58:12 <SteveH__> Zakim, [Garlik] is temporarily me

Steve Harris: Zakim, [Garlik] is temporarily me

13:58:12 <Zakim> +SteveH__; got it

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13:58:45 <Zakim> +LeeF

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13:58:59 <Zakim> +OlivierCorby

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13:59:21 <SteveH__> bglimm, I moved from wired to wireless nw

Steve Harris: bglimm, I moved from wired to wireless nw

13:59:43 <Zakim> +??P10

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13:59:45 <AlexPassant> Zakim, ?P10 is me

Alexandre Passant: Zakim, ?P10 is me

13:59:45 <Zakim> sorry, AlexPassant, I do not recognize a party named '?P10'

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14:00:00 <AlexPassant> Zakim, ??P10 is me

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14:00:00 <Zakim> +AlexPassant; got it

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14:00:50 <Zakim> +MattPerry

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14:01:02 <LeeF> topic: Admin

1. Admin

14:01:07 <LeeF>  PROPOSED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2010-08-31

Lee Feigenbaum: PROPOSED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2010-08-31

14:02:03 <Zakim> +Sandro

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14:02:07 <Zakim> -AlexPassant

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14:02:27 <Zakim> +??P21

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14:02:32 <LeeF> RESOLVED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2010-08-31

RESOLVED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2010-08-31

14:02:41 <LeeF> Next regular meeting: 2010-09-14 @ 15:00 UK / 10:00 EDT (scribe: Axel Polleres )

Lee Feigenbaum: Next regular meeting: 2010-09-14 @ 15:00 UK / 10:00 EDT (scribe: Axel Polleres )

14:02:54 <bglimm> LeeF: next meeting, as usual (Tue 14th)

Lee Feigenbaum: next meeting, as usual (Tue 14th)

14:03:09 <sandro> regrets next week

Sandro Hawke: regrets next week

14:03:12 <ivan> I may be at risk

Ivan Herman: I may be at risk

14:03:15 <LeeF> zakim, ??P21 is Nicholas

Lee Feigenbaum: zakim, ??P21 is Nicholas

14:03:15 <Zakim> +Nicholas; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Nicholas; got it

14:03:42 <LeeF> topic: JSON Results Format

2. JSON Results Format

14:03:47 <bglimm> Topic: JSON results format

3. JSON results format

14:04:03 <LeeF> http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-sparql-json-res/

Lee Feigenbaum: http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-sparql-json-res/

14:04:17 <bglimm> LeeF: First WG published this doc as a WG note

Lee Feigenbaum: First WG published this doc as a WG note

14:04:39 <Zakim> +??P26

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14:04:41 <AlexPassant> Zakim, ??P26 is me

Alexandre Passant: Zakim, ??P26 is me

14:04:44 <Zakim> +AlexPassant; got it

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14:04:44 <bglimm> ... contains a JSON version of the standard XML results format

... contains a JSON version of the standard XML results format

14:05:24 <bglimm> ... didn't go through the normal standardisation process since it is a note (no implementations required for example)

... didn't go through the normal standardisation process since it is a note (no implementations required for example)

14:05:44 <chimezie> Zakim, what is the passcode?

Chimezie Ogbuji: Zakim, what is the passcode?

14:05:44 <Zakim> the conference code is 77277 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.26.46.79.03 tel:+44.203.318.0479), chimezie

Zakim IRC Bot: the conference code is 77277 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.26.46.79.03 tel:+44.203.318.0479), chimezie

14:05:49 <bglimm> ... seem popular in practise, several implementations

... seem popular in practise, several implementations

14:06:08 <Zakim> +Chimezie_Ogbuji

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14:06:13 <bglimm> ... Should we publish it as real standard?

... Should we publish it as real standard?

14:06:39 <bglimm> ... Would cause more work in terms of test cases, reviews, etc

... Would cause more work in terms of test cases, reviews, etc

14:06:44 <Nicholas> I think making JSON an offical standard is really important

Nicholas Humfrey: I think making JSON an offical standard is really important

14:06:56 <kasei_> +1 (would also like to see jsonp support)

Gregory Williams: +1 (would also like to see jsonp support)

14:07:02 <SteveH> +0.5

Steve Harris: +0.5

14:07:05 <bglimm> ... I would like to hear opinions about this

... I would like to hear opinions about this

14:07:06 <Nicholas> will really help adoption

Nicholas Humfrey: will really help adoption

14:07:14 <sandro> +0.5

Sandro Hawke: +0.5

14:07:22 <bglimm> Nicholas: We use JSON a lot at BBC

Nicholas Humfrey: We use JSON a lot at BBC

14:07:38 <chimezie> Zakim, mute me

Chimezie Ogbuji: Zakim, mute me

14:07:38 <Zakim> Chimezie_Ogbuji should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: Chimezie_Ogbuji should now be muted

14:07:38 <bglimm> ... easy to parse, many developers know it, would help adoption of SPARQL

... easy to parse, many developers know it, would help adoption of SPARQL

14:07:39 <chimezie> +1

Chimezie Ogbuji: +1

14:07:57 <SteveH> yes, terrified of toppling over

Steve Harris: yes, terrified of toppling over

14:07:59 <ivan> q+

Ivan Herman: q+

14:08:00 <SteveH> :)

Steve Harris: :)

14:08:02 <sandro> yes, that's why I didnt say "+1"

Sandro Hawke: yes, that's why I didnt say "+1"

14:08:13 <AlexPassant> never used XML/SPARQL and works only w/ JSON, so also happy to have it as a rec

Alexandre Passant: never used XML/SPARQL and works only w/ JSON, so also happy to have it as a rec

14:08:14 <bglimm> LeeF: I see a lot of support on IRC. Is anybody worried about this additional burden?

Lee Feigenbaum: I see a lot of support on IRC. Is anybody worried about this additional burden?

14:08:22 <bglimm> IvanH: Do we have editors?

Ivan Herman: Do we have editors?

14:08:33 <Zakim> +pgearon

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14:08:44 <bglimm> LeeF: The doc does not need much work, we could keep the note editors

Lee Feigenbaum: The doc does not need much work, we could keep the note editors

14:08:44 <pgearon> apologies for tardy arrival

Paul Gearon: apologies for tardy arrival

14:08:54 <pgearon> muted

Paul Gearon: muted

14:09:36 <bglimm> IvanH: Before making a decision, we should make sure we have editors who take responsibility for the document and the work this will cause.

Ivan Herman: Before making a decision, we should make sure we have editors who take responsibility for the document and the work this will cause.

14:09:52 <bglimm> ... We might want to look at this when other docs are in LC.

... We might want to look at this when other docs are in LC.

14:10:28 <ivan> q?

Ivan Herman: q?

14:10:36 <bglimm> LeeF: I wouldn't make a decision before we have editors, but I want to see how much support this would have.

Lee Feigenbaum: I wouldn't make a decision before we have editors, but I want to see how much support this would have.

14:10:37 <LeeF> ack ivan

Lee Feigenbaum: ack ivan

14:11:12 <bglimm> IvanH: We have the questionnaire for next steps for RDF and we might have a JSON format for RDF

Ivan Herman: We have the questionnaire for next steps for RDF and we might have a JSON format for RDF

14:11:45 <AlexPassant> would also require a return format for Update (simple 'success' / 'failure' pattern)

Alexandre Passant: would also require a return format for Update (simple 'success' / 'failure' pattern)

14:12:06 <pgearon> I think that JSON is possibly more used than XML is at the moment

Paul Gearon: I think that JSON is possibly more used than XML is at the moment

14:12:13 <bglimm> ... The current JSON for SPARQL format does not cover constructs, but could possibly be combined with the JSON for RDF and cover costructs this way

... The current JSON for SPARQL format does not cover constructs, but could possibly be combined with the JSON for RDF and cover costructs this way

14:12:18 <LeeF> ACTION: Lee to work with Axel to identify potential editor(s) to shepherd through JSON document on Rec track

ACTION: Lee to work with Axel to identify potential editor(s) to shepherd through JSON document on Rec track

14:12:18 <trackbot> Created ACTION-306 - Work with Axel to identify potential editor(s) to shepherd through JSON document on Rec track [on Lee Feigenbaum - due 2010-09-14].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-306 - Work with Axel to identify potential editor(s) to shepherd through JSON document on Rec track [on Lee Feigenbaum - due 2010-09-14].

14:12:46 <bglimm> LeeF: If anybody is interested in an editorial role for this please contact me and/or Axel

Lee Feigenbaum: If anybody is interested in an editorial role for this please contact me and/or Axel

14:12:58 <bglimm> Topic: Test Cases

4. Test Cases

14:13:17 <bglimm> LeeF: We can hopefully approve some more test case sets

Lee Feigenbaum: We can hopefully approve some more test case sets

14:13:25 <LeeF> group_concat test cases: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2010JulSep/0272.html

Lee Feigenbaum: group_concat test cases: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2010JulSep/0272.html

14:13:30 <bglimm> ... some from greg for GROUP_CONCAT

... some from greg for GROUP_CONCAT

14:14:08 <bglimm> ... there are two plus one from a later date

... there are two plus one from a later date

14:14:39 <LeeF> agg-groupconcat-1

Lee Feigenbaum: agg-groupconcat-1

14:14:43 <LeeF> agg-groupconcat-2

Lee Feigenbaum: agg-groupconcat-2

14:14:48 <bglimm> ... AndyS reported that ARQ passes the two older ones

... AndyS reported that ARQ passes the two older ones

14:14:55 <kasei_> I think the third duplicates the first, but also adds the separator.

Gregory Williams: I think the third duplicates the first, but also adds the separator.

14:15:06 <kasei_> I pass them

Gregory Williams: I pass them

14:16:01 <bglimm> LeeF: The difference between the first and the third is that the third uses a non-default separator

Lee Feigenbaum: The difference between the first and the third is that the third uses a non-default separator

14:16:37 <bglimm> ... Since the order of the rows in an aggregate is not specified, you can get multiple strings

... Since the order of the rows in an aggregate is not specified, you can get multiple strings

14:17:22 <bglimm> ... Greg used a FILTER to test for the possible orders, useful way of abstracting from the fact that we need implicitly have an order

... Greg used a FILTER to test for the possible orders, useful way of abstracting from the fact that we need implicitly have an order

14:17:25 <LeeF> PROPOSED: Approve tests agg-groupconcat-1, agg-groupconcat-2, and agg-groupconcat-3

PROPOSED: Approve tests agg-groupconcat-1, agg-groupconcat-2, and agg-groupconcat-3

14:17:57 <kasei_> +1

Gregory Williams: +1

14:17:57 <pgearon> Seconded

Paul Gearon: Seconded

14:18:42 <bglimm> SteveH: You want to abstain as for past test cases?

Steve Harris: You want to abstain as for past test cases?

14:18:48 <LeeF> RESOLVED: Approve tests agg-groupconcat-1, agg-groupconcat-2, and agg-groupconcat-3

RESOLVED: Approve tests agg-groupconcat-1, agg-groupconcat-2, and agg-groupconcat-3

14:18:53 <bglimm> SteveH: I'll check them later

Steve Harris: I'll check them later

14:19:23 <LeeF> project expression tests: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/project-expression/

Lee Feigenbaum: project expression tests: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/project-expression/

14:19:24 <bglimm> LeeF: We have 7 tests for project expressions

Lee Feigenbaum: We have 7 tests for project expressions

14:19:28 <LeeF> zakim, who's on the phone?

Lee Feigenbaum: zakim, who's on the phone?

14:19:28 <Zakim> On the phone I see bglimm, kasei, SteveH, Ivan, LeeF, OlivierCorby, MattPerry, Sandro, Nicholas, AlexPassant, Chimezie_Ogbuji (muted), pgearon

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see bglimm, kasei, SteveH, Ivan, LeeF, OlivierCorby, MattPerry, Sandro, Nicholas, AlexPassant, Chimezie_Ogbuji (muted), pgearon

14:19:52 <bglimm> OlivierCorby: I created these tests

Olivier Corby: I created these tests

14:19:56 <LeeF> Andy - http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2010JulSep/0302.html - ARQ passes all 7

Lee Feigenbaum: Andy - http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2010JulSep/0302.html - ARQ passes all 7

14:20:13 <bglimm> LeeF: AndyS reported that ARQ passes these 7 tests

Lee Feigenbaum: AndyS reported that ARQ passes these 7 tests

14:21:07 <bglimm> kasei: Are these the test with * in addition to variable lists?

Gregory Williams: Are these the test with * in addition to variable lists?

14:21:16 <bglimm> OlivierCorby: I corrected that.

Olivier Corby: I corrected that.

14:21:26 <LeeF> PROPOSED: Approve tests projexp01 - projexp07

PROPOSED: Approve tests projexp01 - projexp07

14:21:40 <bglimm> kasei: My system passes these tests

Gregory Williams: My system passes these tests

14:21:45 <kasei_> +1

Gregory Williams: +1

14:21:57 <bglimm> LeeF: Any objections, abstains?

Lee Feigenbaum: Any objections, abstains?

14:22:01 <LeeF> RESOLVED: Approve tests projexp01 - projexp07

RESOLVED: Approve tests projexp01 - projexp07

14:22:35 <bglimm> LeeF: Axel suggested some tests for entailments

Lee Feigenbaum: Axel suggested some tests for entailments

14:23:04 <LeeF> entailment test cases: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2010JulSep/0313.html

Lee Feigenbaum: entailment test cases: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2010JulSep/0313.html

14:23:18 <LeeF> bglimm: Axel's question was whether the surrogate blank nodes introduced should be returned

Birte Glimm: Axel's question was whether the surrogate blank nodes introduced should be returned [ Scribe Assist by Lee Feigenbaum ]

14:23:24 <LeeF> bglimm: ...and the answer is "no"

Birte Glimm: ...and the answer is "no" [ Scribe Assist by Lee Feigenbaum ]

14:23:49 <bglimm> LeeF: Is that in CVS?

Lee Feigenbaum: Is that in CVS?

14:23:58 <bglimm> bglimm: I am not sure whether Axel added this.

Birte Glimm: I am not sure whether Axel added this.

14:24:10 <bglimm> bglimm: I will add this

Birte Glimm: I will add this

14:24:33 <LeeF> ACTION: Birte to add Axel's two surrogate blank node test cases to CVS

ACTION: Birte to add Axel's two surrogate blank node test cases to CVS

14:24:33 <trackbot> Created ACTION-307 - Add Axel's two surrogate blank node test cases to CVS [on Birte Glimm - due 2010-09-14].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-307 - Add Axel's two surrogate blank node test cases to CVS [on Birte Glimm - due 2010-09-14].

14:25:11 <bglimm> LeeF: There were discussions about SPARQL Update, triggered by Andy's review

Lee Feigenbaum: There were discussions about SPARQL Update, triggered by Andy's review

14:25:29 <bglimm> ... Is that just rewording or is tehre anything we need to discuss

... Is that just rewording or is tehre anything we need to discuss

14:25:49 <bglimm> AlexPassant: It is some rewording and some details for the formal update model

Alexandre Passant: It is some rewording and some details for the formal update model

14:26:04 <bglimm> ... we will finish the formal model by the end of the week and get another review then

... we will finish the formal model by the end of the week and get another review then

14:26:22 <bglimm> ... I have not yet checked what was identified as issues

... I have not yet checked what was identified as issues

14:26:51 <bglimm> LeeF: I am interested in the model and I can check it once it is finalized

Lee Feigenbaum: I am interested in the model and I can check it once it is finalized

14:27:04 <bglimm> ... Any other comments?

... Any other comments?

14:27:11 <bglimm> Topic: Open Actions

5. Open Actions

14:27:31 <LeeF> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/actions/open

Lee Feigenbaum: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/actions/open

14:27:40 <bglimm> LeeF: Whoever has open actions, please check them and let's try to close some

Lee Feigenbaum: Whoever has open actions, please check them and let's try to close some

14:28:22 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-77

Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-77

14:28:22 <trackbot> ACTION-77 Investigate ISSUE-33 closed

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-77 Investigate ISSUE-33 closed

14:28:30 <bglimm> ... The first is mine, and became a non-issue because we have only few update actions

... The first is mine, and became a non-issue because we have only few update actions

14:28:34 <chimezie> Zakim, unmute me

Chimezie Ogbuji: Zakim, unmute me

14:28:34 <Zakim> Chimezie_Ogbuji should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: Chimezie_Ogbuji should no longer be muted

14:28:39 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-116

Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-116

14:28:39 <trackbot> ACTION-116 Address the concerns in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2009OctDec/0024.html closed

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-116 Address the concerns in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2009OctDec/0024.html closed

14:28:47 <Zakim> -OlivierCorby

Zakim IRC Bot: -OlivierCorby

14:28:48 <bglimm> The second one is actually completed by Chime

The second one is actually completed by Chime

14:29:08 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-130

Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-130

14:29:08 <trackbot> ACTION-130 Summarize 4 options relating to grouping by expressions on the mailing list and solicit information on what existing implementations do closed

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-130 Summarize 4 options relating to grouping by expressions on the mailing list and solicit information on what existing implementations do closed

14:29:12 <bglimm> Action 130 seems completed since we had iscussions

ACTION-130 seems completed since we had iscussions

14:29:12 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - 130

Trackbot IRC Bot: Sorry, couldn't find user - 130

14:29:31 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-132

Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-132

14:29:31 <trackbot> ACTION-132 Make sure algebra has some position on what aggregate functions are & do (w.r.t. expressions by reference) closed

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-132 Make sure algebra has some position on what aggregate functions are & do (w.r.t. expressions by reference) closed

14:29:33 <Zakim> +OlivierCorby

Zakim IRC Bot: +OlivierCorby

14:29:43 <bglimm> LeeF: Action 132 on Steve is about the algebra and how aggregates fit in

Lee Feigenbaum: ACTION-132 on Steve is about the algebra and how aggregates fit in

14:29:55 <bglimm> SteveH: Completed

Steve Harris: Completed

14:29:56 <chimezie> Zakim, mute me

Chimezie Ogbuji: Zakim, mute me

14:29:56 <Zakim> Chimezie_Ogbuji should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: Chimezie_Ogbuji should now be muted

14:30:19 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-179

Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-179

14:30:19 <trackbot> ACTION-179 start an email thread about fregments of propertypaths that could be dealt with in SQL closed

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-179 start an email thread about fregments of propertypaths that could be dealt with in SQL closed

14:30:29 <bglimm> Matt: Action 179 is completed

Matthew Perry: ACTION-179 is completed

14:30:47 <bglimm> LeeF: Action 184 on Orri tha

Lee Feigenbaum: ACTION-184 on Orri tha

14:30:59 <chimezie> Zakim, unmute me

Chimezie Ogbuji: Zakim, unmute me

14:30:59 <Zakim> Chimezie_Ogbuji should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: Chimezie_Ogbuji should no longer be muted

14:31:03 <bglimm> ... that still needs o be addressed

... that still needs o be addressed

14:31:26 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-194

Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-194

14:31:26 <trackbot> ACTION-194 Collect testcases for negation closed

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-194 Collect testcases for negation closed

14:31:38 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-199

Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-199

14:31:38 <trackbot> ACTION-199 Collect test cases for entailment closed

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-199 Collect test cases for entailment closed

14:32:31 <bglimm> SteveH: I haven't done Action 200

Steve Harris: I haven't done ACTION-200

14:33:05 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-205

Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-205

14:33:05 <trackbot> Sorry... closing ACTION-205 failed, please let sysreq know about it

Trackbot IRC Bot: Sorry... closing ACTION-205 failed, please let sysreq know about it

14:33:47 <bglimm> LeeF: I am not sure about 209

Lee Feigenbaum: I am not sure about 209

14:33:55 <Zakim> -Sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: -Sandro

14:34:13 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-205

Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-205

14:34:13 <trackbot> Sorry... closing ACTION-205 failed, please let sysreq know about it

Trackbot IRC Bot: Sorry... closing ACTION-205 failed, please let sysreq know about it

14:34:47 <bglimm> Sandro has an action to work with greg on SD with multiple graphs

Sandro has an action to work with greg on SD with multiple graphs

14:35:05 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-213

Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-213

14:35:05 <trackbot> ACTION-213 Work with Greg on an example to investigate what happens when multiple descriptions of the same graph are merged together closed

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-213 Work with Greg on an example to investigate what happens when multiple descriptions of the same graph are merged together closed

14:35:29 <bglimm> kasei: I think we we are fine, we had some discussions, but Sandro had still some concerns recently

Gregory Williams: I think we we are fine, we had some discussions, but Sandro had still some concerns recently

14:35:53 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-220

Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-220

14:35:53 <trackbot> ACTION-220 Review the federated query document at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/fed/service closed

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-220 Review the federated query document at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/fed/service closed

14:36:03 <bglimm> LeeF: Action 220 is no longer relevant

Lee Feigenbaum: ACTION-220 is no longer relevant

14:36:17 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-221

Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-221

14:36:17 <trackbot> ACTION-221 Reformulate Condition 4 closed

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-221 Reformulate Condition 4 closed

14:36:33 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-222

Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-222

14:36:33 <trackbot> ACTION-222 Propose rewordings on mailinglist on http-protocol which clarify ISSUE-49 closed

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-222 Propose rewordings on mailinglist on http-protocol which clarify ISSUE-49 closed

14:36:59 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-223

Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-223

14:36:59 <trackbot> ACTION-223 Look over http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/README.html closed

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-223 Look over http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/README.html closed

14:37:06 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-224

Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-224

14:37:06 <trackbot> ACTION-224 Check with editors what's the status of docs wrt. publication schedule closed

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-224 Check with editors what's the status of docs wrt. publication schedule closed

14:37:19 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-226

Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-226

14:37:19 <trackbot> ACTION-226 Come up with a proposed re-schedule and suggestion on how to proceed until Rec closed

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-226 Come up with a proposed re-schedule and suggestion on how to proceed until Rec closed

14:37:42 <bglimm> LeeF: Chime, do you know about Action 227?

Lee Feigenbaum: Chime, do you know about ACTION-227?

14:37:55 <bglimm> Chime: I don't know enough

Chimezie Ogbuji: I don't know enough

14:38:00 <bglimm> LeeF: Let's keep it open

Lee Feigenbaum: Let's keep it open

14:38:14 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-230

Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-230

14:38:14 <trackbot> ACTION-230 Review SPARQL Query document for issues, concerns, praise, and publication-readiness closed

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-230 Review SPARQL Query document for issues, concerns, praise, and publication-readiness closed

14:38:15 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-232

Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-232

14:38:15 <trackbot> ACTION-232 Review Service Description document closed

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-232 Review Service Description document closed

14:38:26 <bglimm> LeeF: 230 and 232 are old

Lee Feigenbaum: 230 and 232 are old

14:38:41 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-242

Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-242

14:38:41 <trackbot> ACTION-242 Update Section 7 to reflect relaxed finiteness conditions for BGP matching extension. closed

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-242 Update Section 7 to reflect relaxed finiteness conditions for BGP matching extension. closed

14:38:42 <bglimm> ... 242, Chime is that done?

... 242, Chime is that done?

14:38:47 <bglimm> Chime: Yes, that's old

Chimezie Ogbuji: Yes, that's old

14:38:58 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-243

Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-243

14:38:58 <trackbot> ACTION-243 Review changes on Section 7. closed

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-243 Review changes on Section 7. closed

14:39:07 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-244

Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-244

14:39:07 <trackbot> ACTION-244 Collect http-protocol issues and mail to list, others respond if you see anything missing closed

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-244 Collect http-protocol issues and mail to list, others respond if you see anything missing closed

14:39:14 <bglimm> LeeF: 244 is done

Lee Feigenbaum: 244 is done

14:39:22 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-246

Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-246

14:39:22 <trackbot> ACTION-246 Check/approve final version of update closed

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-246 Check/approve final version of update closed

14:39:26 <bglimm> ... 246 is old too

... 246 is old too

14:39:57 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-247

Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-247

14:39:57 <trackbot> ACTION-247 Give examples that highlight possible ambiguities in the resolutions from last f2f concerning ISSUE-16 closed

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-247 Give examples that highlight possible ambiguities in the resolutions from last f2f concerning ISSUE-16 closed

14:39:57 <bglimm> LeeF: Is 247 done?

Lee Feigenbaum: Is 247 done?

14:40:03 <bglimm> SteveH: Yes

Steve Harris: Yes

14:40:05 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-249

Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-249

14:40:05 <trackbot> ACTION-249 Check back with Lee on how/when to schedule theother special TCs closed

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-249 Check back with Lee on how/when to schedule theother special TCs closed

14:40:42 <bglimm> LeeF: Do you know about 252?

Lee Feigenbaum: Do you know about 252?

14:40:45 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-252

Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-252

14:40:45 <trackbot> ACTION-252 Incorporate explaining wording plus example to editor's draft closed

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-252 Incorporate explaining wording plus example to editor's draft closed

14:40:47 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-253

Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-253

14:40:47 <trackbot> ACTION-253 Change networked RDF knowledge to RDF knowledge closed

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-253 Change networked RDF knowledge to RDF knowledge closed

14:40:55 <bglimm> Chime: I added the example, done. 253 also done

Chimezie Ogbuji: I added the example, done. 253 also done

14:41:05 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-256

Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-256

14:41:05 <trackbot> ACTION-256 Work out http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Design:FunctionLibrary within 2 weeks closed

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-256 Work out http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Design:FunctionLibrary within 2 weeks closed

14:41:19 <bglimm> LeeF: We have a newer action for what 256 is about

Lee Feigenbaum: We have a newer action for what 256 is about

14:41:52 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-258

Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-258

14:41:52 <trackbot> ACTION-258 Summarize which queries are legal and not in terms of expressions in GROUP BY and expressions in the SELECT clause that deal with group by keys and with aggregators closed

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-258 Summarize which queries are legal and not in terms of expressions in GROUP BY and expressions in the SELECT clause that deal with group by keys and with aggregators closed

14:41:52 <bglimm> LeeF: 258 is done I think

Lee Feigenbaum: 258 is done I think

14:42:15 <bglimm> LeeF: Chime, is 264 done?

Lee Feigenbaum: Chime, is 264 done?

14:42:23 <bglimm> Chime: We did that

Chimezie Ogbuji: We did that

14:42:25 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-264

Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-264

14:42:25 <trackbot> ACTION-264 Draft response to KK-1 summarising our internal discussions and changes in the doc. closed

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-264 Draft response to KK-1 summarising our internal discussions and changes in the doc. closed

14:42:38 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-269

Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-269

14:42:38 <trackbot> ACTION-269 Put Aggr test cases in manifest format inside CVS closed

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-269 Put Aggr test cases in manifest format inside CVS closed

14:42:44 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-270

Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-270

14:42:44 <trackbot> ACTION-270 Put subqueries, prop paths, project espressions test cases in manifest format and add to CVS closed

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-270 Put subqueries, prop paths, project espressions test cases in manifest format and add to CVS closed

14:43:02 <bglimm> LeeF: Paul, do we have any update test cases?

Lee Feigenbaum: Paul, do we have any update test cases?

14:43:17 <bglimm> Paul: No, not yet. I'll do something this week

Paul Gearon: No, not yet. I'll do something this week

14:43:23 <bglimm> LeeF: I'll leave it open

Lee Feigenbaum: I'll leave it open

14:43:43 <bglimm> LeeF: Matt also was supposed to add some tests

Lee Feigenbaum: Matt also was supposed to add some tests

14:43:53 <bglimm> MattPerry: I added some

Matthew Perry: I added some

14:44:06 <bglimm> LeeF: I keep the action open anyway

Lee Feigenbaum: I keep the action open anyway

14:44:27 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-278

Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-278

14:44:27 <trackbot> ACTION-278 Write-up ARQ treatment of LET closed

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-278 Write-up ARQ treatment of LET closed

14:44:28 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-279

Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-279

14:44:28 <trackbot> ACTION-279 Write-up Mulgara treatment of LET closed

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-279 Write-up Mulgara treatment of LET closed

14:44:37 <bglimm> LeeF: 278 and 279 are both done

Lee Feigenbaum: 278 and 279 are both done

14:45:00 <LeeF> ACTION: Lee to mark group_concat and projexp tests as approved

ACTION: Lee to mark group_concat and projexp tests as approved

14:45:00 <trackbot> Created ACTION-308 - Mark group_concat and projexp tests as approved [on Lee Feigenbaum - due 2010-09-14].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-308 - Mark group_concat and projexp tests as approved [on Lee Feigenbaum - due 2010-09-14].

14:45:22 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-281

Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-281

14:45:22 <trackbot> ACTION-281 Summarize the issue and mail his proposal to solve it closed

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-281 Summarize the issue and mail his proposal to solve it closed

14:45:29 <bglimm> LeeF: Action 281 seems done

Lee Feigenbaum: ACTION-281 seems done

14:46:14 <bglimm> LeeF: Action 285, Paul do you know the status

Lee Feigenbaum: ACTION-285, Paul do you know the status

14:46:56 <bglimm> pgearon: I remember the action, but I don't think I completed it

Paul Gearon: I remember the action, but I don't think I completed it

14:48:04 <bglimm> LeeF: 293, is that done Chime?

Lee Feigenbaum: 293, is that done Chime?

14:48:09 <bglimm> Chime: No

Chimezie Ogbuji: No

14:48:25 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-294

Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-294

14:48:25 <trackbot> ACTION-294 Add a statement reflecting TL-1 point 1) in the http-rdf-update closed

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-294 Add a statement reflecting TL-1 point 1) in the http-rdf-update closed

14:48:27 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-295

Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-295

14:48:27 <trackbot> ACTION-295 Draft response for TL-1 closed

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-295 Draft response for TL-1 closed

14:49:18 <bglimm> LeeF: We closed many, but still have some open

Lee Feigenbaum: We closed many, but still have some open

14:49:31 <bglimm> ... any other topics to discuss?

... any other topics to discuss?

14:49:57 <SteveH> appologies for next 2 weeks BTW

Steve Harris: appologies for next 2 weeks BTW

14:50:06 <bglimm> .... I want to get through the assignment issues next week or the week after

.... I want to get through the assignment issues next week or the week after

14:50:16 <bglimm> ... Will try and create test cases for that

... Will try and create test cases for that

14:50:29 <bglimm> LeeF: adjourned

Lee Feigenbaum: adjourned

14:50:32 <Zakim> -Chimezie_Ogbuji

Zakim IRC Bot: -Chimezie_Ogbuji

14:50:32 <ivan> zakim, drop me

Ivan Herman: zakim, drop me

14:50:33 <Zakim> Ivan is being disconnected

Zakim IRC Bot: Ivan is being disconnected

14:50:33 <Zakim> -Ivan

Zakim IRC Bot: -Ivan

14:50:34 <Nicholas> bye!

Nicholas Humfrey: bye!

14:50:34 <Zakim> -MattPerry

Zakim IRC Bot: -MattPerry

14:50:35 <Zakim> -SteveH__

Zakim IRC Bot: -SteveH__

14:50:37 <Zakim> -kasei

Zakim IRC Bot: -kasei

14:50:37 <Zakim> -LeeF

Zakim IRC Bot: -LeeF

14:50:39 <Zakim> -Nicholas

Zakim IRC Bot: -Nicholas

14:50:39 <Zakim> -pgearon

Zakim IRC Bot: -pgearon

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