SPARQL Working Group Teleconference

Minutes of 22 December 2009

Seen
Alexandre Passant, Andy Seaborne, Axel Polleres, Birte Glimm, Gregory Williams, Kjetil Kjernsmo, Lee Feigenbaum, Matthew Perry, Olivier Corby, Paul Gearon, Prateek Jain, Sandro Hawke, Souripriya Das, Steve Harris, Tommi Koivula
Regrets
Tommi Koivula, Birte Glimm
Scribe
Olivier Corby, Axel Polleres
IRC Log
Original and Editable Wiki Version
Resolutions
  1. Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2009-12-15 link
Topics
14:54:20 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2009/12/22-sparql-irc

RRSAgent IRC Bot: logging to http://www.w3.org/2009/12/22-sparql-irc

14:54:20 <AndyS> No zakim.

Andy Seaborne: No zakim.

14:54:37 <AndyS> zakim, who is on the phone?

Andy Seaborne: zakim, who is on the phone?

14:54:37 <Zakim> sorry, AndyS, I don't know what conference this is

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, AndyS, I don't know what conference this is

14:54:38 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, kasei, AxelPolleres, AndyS, ottela, OlivierCorby, SteveH_, pgearon, LeeF, karl, iv_an_ru, AlexPassant, KjetilK, trackbot, sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see RRSAgent, kasei, AxelPolleres, AndyS, ottela, OlivierCorby, SteveH_, pgearon, LeeF, karl, iv_an_ru, AlexPassant, KjetilK, trackbot, sandro

14:54:50 <AndyS> zakim, this will be SPARQL

Andy Seaborne: zakim, this will be SPARQL

14:54:50 <Zakim> ok, AndyS, I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM already started

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, AndyS, I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM already started

14:54:56 <AndyS> zakim, who is on the phone?

Andy Seaborne: zakim, who is on the phone?

14:54:56 <Zakim> On the phone I see [IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see [IPcaller]

14:55:05 <AndyS> zakim, [IPcaller] is me

Andy Seaborne: zakim, [IPcaller] is me

14:55:05 <Zakim> +AndyS; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +AndyS; got it

14:55:10 <LeeF> trackbot, start meeting

Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, start meeting

14:55:12 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world

Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, make logs world

14:55:14 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 77277

Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, this will be 77277

14:55:14 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM scheduled to start in 5 minutes

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, trackbot; I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM scheduled to start in 5 minutes

14:55:15 <trackbot> Meeting: SPARQL Working Group Teleconference
14:55:15 <trackbot> Date: 22 December 2009
14:55:46 <AndyS> SteveH_ (again!) you don't store http://myserver/store/http://foo as the graph name do you?  You strip the http://myserver/store/ ?

Andy Seaborne: SteveH_ (again!) you don't store http://myserver/store/http://foo as the graph name do you? You strip the http://myserver/store/ ?

14:56:39 <AxelPolleres> regrets: TommiK, BirteG
14:57:02 <AxelPolleres> kjetil?

Axel Polleres: kjetil?

14:57:10 <SteveH_> AndyS, that's correct

Steve Harris: AndyS, that's correct

14:58:15 <Zakim> +??P5

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P5

14:58:20 <SteveH_> Zakim, ??P5 is SteveH_

Steve Harris: Zakim, ??P5 is SteveH_

14:58:20 <Zakim> +SteveH_; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +SteveH_; got it

14:58:34 <Zakim> +??P6

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P6

14:58:39 <kasei> Zakim, P6 is me

Gregory Williams: Zakim, P6 is me

14:58:39 <Zakim> sorry, kasei, I do not recognize a party named 'P6'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, kasei, I do not recognize a party named 'P6'

14:58:45 <kasei> Zakim, ??P6 is me

Gregory Williams: Zakim, ??P6 is me

14:58:45 <Zakim> +kasei; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +kasei; got it

14:58:47 <Zakim> +pgearon

Zakim IRC Bot: +pgearon

14:58:56 <kasei> Zakim, mute me

Gregory Williams: Zakim, mute me

14:58:56 <Zakim> kasei should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: kasei should now be muted

14:59:12 <Zakim> + +49.238.aaaa

Zakim IRC Bot: + +49.238.aaaa

14:59:17 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

14:59:21 <LeeF> zakim, IPcaller is me

Lee Feigenbaum: zakim, IPcaller is me

14:59:21 <Zakim> +LeeF; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +LeeF; got it

14:59:34 <OlivierCorby> 49.238.aaaa is Olivier

Olivier Corby: 49.238.aaaa is Olivier

14:59:40 <LeeF> zakim, aaaa is OlivierCorby

Lee Feigenbaum: zakim, aaaa is OlivierCorby

14:59:40 <Zakim> +OlivierCorby; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +OlivierCorby; got it

15:00:14 <Zakim> +??P10

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P10

15:00:19 <AlexPassant> Zakim, ??P10 is me

Alexandre Passant: Zakim, ??P10 is me

15:00:19 <Zakim> +AlexPassant; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +AlexPassant; got it

15:00:25 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, who is on the phone?

Axel Polleres: Zakim, who is on the phone?

15:00:25 <Zakim> On the phone I see AndyS, Axel, SteveH_, kasei (muted), pgearon, OlivierCorby, LeeF, AlexPassant

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see AndyS, Axel, SteveH_, kasei (muted), pgearon, OlivierCorby, LeeF, AlexPassant

15:00:31 <Zakim> +Sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: +Sandro

15:00:47 <Zakim> +Souri

Zakim IRC Bot: +Souri

15:00:58 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Agenda-2009-12-22

Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Agenda-2009-12-22

15:01:08 <Zakim> +??P13

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P13

15:01:28 <MattPerry> zakim, ??P13 is MattPerry

Matthew Perry: zakim, ??P13 is MattPerry

15:01:28 <Zakim> +MattPerry; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +MattPerry; got it

15:03:04 <AxelPolleres> scribe: OlivierCorby

(Scribe set to Olivier Corby)

15:03:04 <AxelPolleres> scribe: AxelPolleres

(Scribe set to Axel Polleres)

15:04:22 <AxelPolleres> topic: admin

1. admin

15:04:29 <AxelPolleres> PROPOSED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2009-12-15

PROPOSED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2009-12-15

15:04:47 <AxelPolleres> RESOLVED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2009-12-15

RESOLVED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2009-12-15

15:05:11 <AxelPolleres> Axel: Next meeting Jan 5.

Axel Polleres: Next meeting Jan 5.

15:05:11 <AxelPolleres> OlivierCorby: I can't scribe next time, regrets.

Olivier Corby: I can't scribe next time, regrets.

15:05:11 <AxelPolleres> topic: comments

2. comments

15:05:43 <AndyS> Topic: Liasons

3. Liasons

15:06:53 <AxelPolleres> axel: no news from RIF

Axel Polleres: no news from RIF

15:06:53 <AxelPolleres> steveH:  no news from eGov yet

Steve Harris: no news from eGov yet

15:06:53 <AxelPolleres> souri: rdb2rdf news... currently presentations of initial input

Souripriya Das: rdb2rdf news... currently presentations of initial input

15:07:08 <AxelPolleres> topic: action review

4. action review

15:07:24 <AxelPolleres> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2009OctDec/0657.html

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2009OctDec/0657.html

15:07:44 <Souri> RDB2RDF news: last week we had a presentation on OKKAM

Souripriya Das: RDB2RDF news: last week we had a presentation on OKKAM

15:08:28 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/actions/134

http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/actions/134

15:09:17 <SteveH_> q+

Steve Harris: q+

15:09:21 <Zakim> +??P14

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P14

15:09:38 <KjetilK> Zakim, ??P14 is me

Kjetil Kjernsmo: Zakim, ??P14 is me

15:09:38 <Zakim> +KjetilK; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +KjetilK; got it

15:09:53 <LeeF> "What does X mean?" is not an issue if X doesn't exist

Lee Feigenbaum: "What does X mean?" is not an issue if X doesn't exist

15:10:06 <Zakim> -AlexPassant

Zakim IRC Bot: -AlexPassant

15:12:55 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/update-1.1/Overview.xml#sec_security

http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/update-1.1/Overview.xml#sec_security

15:13:03 <AndyS> Close ACTION-134

Andy Seaborne: Close ACTION-134

15:13:03 <trackbot> ACTION-134 And Andy to figure out what happens with SELECT ( _:b1 AS ?blank) closed

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-134 And Andy to figure out what happens with SELECT ( _:b1 AS ?blank) closed

15:13:47 <Zakim> +??P10

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P10

15:13:54 <AlexPassant> Zakim, ??P10 is me

Alexandre Passant: Zakim, ??P10 is me

15:13:54 <Zakim> +AlexPassant; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +AlexPassant; got it

15:13:54 <SteveH_> ACTION-135 is on me, not Paul

Steve Harris: ACTION-135 is on me, not Paul

15:14:33 <AxelPolleres> we have closed 135, we are on action 136, sorry for confusion.

we have closed 135, we are on ACTION-136, sorry for confusion.

15:14:52 <AndyS> Close ACTION-135

Andy Seaborne: Close ACTION-135

15:14:52 <trackbot> ACTION-135 Summarize Query security issues in security section once document has been merged closed

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-135 Summarize Query security issues in security section once document has been merged closed

15:16:53 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Paul to link the ISSUE-19 in http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/update-1.1/Overview.xml#sec_security and start email discussion.

ACTION: Paul to link the ISSUE-19 in http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/update-1.1/Overview.xml#sec_security and start email discussion.

15:16:53 <trackbot> Created ACTION-156 - Link the ISSUE-19 in http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/update-1.1/Overview.xml#sec_security and start email discussion. [on Paul Gearon - due 2009-12-29].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-156 - Link the ISSUE-19 in http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/update-1.1/Overview.xml#sec_security and start email discussion. [on Paul Gearon - due 2009-12-29].

15:17:35 <AxelPolleres> thread http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2009OctDec/0551.html

thread http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2009OctDec/0551.html

15:17:35 <AxelPolleres> closes ACTION-144

closes ACTION-144

15:17:42 <AxelPolleres> close ACTION-144

close ACTION-144

15:17:42 <trackbot> ACTION-144 Start conversation in an email closed

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-144 Start conversation in an email closed

15:18:05 <AxelPolleres> close ACTION-154

close ACTION-154

15:18:05 <trackbot> ACTION-154 Work with Birte to figure out video conference facilities for F2F3 closed

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-154 Work with Birte to figure out video conference facilities for F2F3 closed

15:19:02 <AxelPolleres> topic: Review Document Review Readiness

5. Review Document Review Readiness

15:19:16 <AxelPolleres> summary mail: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2009OctDec/0651.html

summary mail: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2009OctDec/0651.html

15:20:03 <AxelPolleres> topic: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/query-1.1/rq25.xml

6. http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/query-1.1/rq25.xml

15:20:54 <AxelPolleres> some general layout problems.

some general layout problems.

15:21:31 <AxelPolleres> discussion about example standards.

discussion about example standards.

15:21:55 <AxelPolleres> sandro will start email discusssion on that.

sandro will start email discusssion on that.

15:22:16 <SteveH_> andy?

Steve Harris: andy?

15:22:52 <AxelPolleres> AndyS: can be reviewed, we still try to get some more text in

Andy Seaborne: can be reviewed, we still try to get some more text in

15:23:17 <AxelPolleres> steveH: will not get in more, but hapy with reviews.

Steve Harris: will not get in more, but hapy with reviews.

15:23:31 <SteveH_> s/with/for/

Steve Harris: s/with/for/

15:23:37 <AndyS> AndyS: The stylesheet problems are a barrier.

Andy Seaborne: The stylesheet problems are a barrier. [ Scribe Assist by Andy Seaborne ]

15:24:23 <AxelPolleres> query Reviewers: Birte, Matt Souri, Axel

query Reviewers: Birte, Matt Souri, Axel

15:24:59 <LeeF> I said last week that we'd clean that up as part of the publication process

Lee Feigenbaum: I said last week that we'd clean that up as part of the publication process

15:25:22 <LeeF> +1 to sandro

Lee Feigenbaum: +1 to sandro

15:25:41 <LeeF> ACTION: Birte to review query editors' draft

ACTION: Birte to review query editors' draft

15:25:41 <trackbot> Created ACTION-157 - Review query editors' draft [on Birte Glimm - due 2009-12-29].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-157 - Review query editors' draft [on Birte Glimm - due 2009-12-29].

15:25:47 <LeeF> ACTION: Matthew to review query editors' draft

ACTION: Matthew to review query editors' draft

15:25:47 <trackbot> Created ACTION-158 - Review query editors' draft [on Matthew Perry - due 2009-12-29].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-158 - Review query editors' draft [on Matthew Perry - due 2009-12-29].

15:25:51 <LeeF> ACTION: Souri to review query editors' draft

ACTION: Souri to review query editors' draft

15:25:51 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - Souri

Trackbot IRC Bot: Sorry, couldn't find user - Souri

15:25:54 <LeeF> ACTION: Axel to review query editors' draft

ACTION: Axel to review query editors' draft

15:25:54 <trackbot> Created ACTION-159 - Review query editors' draft [on Axel Polleres - due 2009-12-29].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-159 - Review query editors' draft [on Axel Polleres - due 2009-12-29].

15:26:04 <Souri> sdas2?

Souripriya Das: sdas2?

15:26:20 <sandro> sandro: I suggest having a detailed changelog in at #changelog in an appendix, with a section for each version, and then having a one-sentence version of it in the SOTD.

Sandro Hawke: I suggest having a detailed changelog in at #changelog in an appendix, with a section for each version, and then having a one-sentence version of it in the SOTD. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ]

15:26:29 <LeeF> Souri, you don't exist :)

Lee Feigenbaum: Souri, you don't exist :)

15:26:34 <LeeF> ACTION: sdas2 to review query editors' draft

ACTION: sdas2 to review query editors' draft

15:26:34 <trackbot> Created ACTION-160 - Review query editors' draft [on Souripriya Das - due 2009-12-29].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-160 - Review query editors' draft [on Souripriya Das - due 2009-12-29].

15:26:36 <Souri> Oh Oh

Souripriya Das: Oh Oh

15:27:10 <AxelPolleres> topic: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/update-1.1/Overview.xml

7. http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/update-1.1/Overview.xml

15:27:36 <AxelPolleres> will be ready for review later today

will be ready for review later today

15:28:11 <AxelPolleres> update Reviewers: AndyS, Axel

update Reviewers: AndyS, Axel

15:28:13 <LeeF> AndyS: Already reviewed update doc, but will look at hcanges as well

Andy Seaborne: Already reviewed update doc, but will look at hcanges as well [ Scribe Assist by Lee Feigenbaum ]

15:28:23 <LeeF> action: Axel to review update editors' draft

ACTION: Axel to review update editors' draft

15:28:23 <trackbot> Created ACTION-161 - Review update editors' draft [on Axel Polleres - due 2009-12-29].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-161 - Review update editors' draft [on Axel Polleres - due 2009-12-29].

15:29:08 <KjetilK> Zakim, mute me

Kjetil Kjernsmo: Zakim, mute me

15:29:08 <Zakim> KjetilK should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: KjetilK should now be muted

15:29:10 <AxelPolleres> topic: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/protocol-1.1/

8. http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/protocol-1.1/

15:29:45 <AxelPolleres> Lee: david is now on CVS, we work on WSDL at  the moment.

Lee Feigenbaum: david is now on CVS, we work on WSDL at the moment.

15:29:57 <AndyS> LeeF: David will update WSDL which is central

Lee Feigenbaum: David will update WSDL which is central [ Scribe Assist by Andy Seaborne ]

15:30:06 <AxelPolleres> ... come up with examples, issues, update return.

... come up with examples, issues, update return.

15:30:24 <Souri> zakim, mute me

Souripriya Das: zakim, mute me

15:30:24 <Zakim> Souri should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: Souri should now be muted

15:30:29 <Zakim> +satya

Zakim IRC Bot: +satya

15:30:38 <Prateek> Zakim,satya is Prateek

Prateek Jain: Zakim,satya is Prateek

15:30:38 <Zakim> +Prateek; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Prateek; got it

15:31:34 <AxelPolleres> let's revisit protocol in the next TCs and decide on schedule then

let's revisit protocol in the next TCs and decide on schedule then

15:31:44 <AxelPolleres> topic: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/service-description-1.1/

9. http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/service-description-1.1/

15:31:47 <kasei> Zakim, unmute me

Gregory Williams: Zakim, unmute me

15:31:47 <Zakim> kasei should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: kasei should no longer be muted

15:32:03 <AxelPolleres> Service description Reviewers: David, Alex, Axel

Service description Reviewers: David, Alex, Axel

15:32:32 <AlexPassant> I sent some comments this morning

Alexandre Passant: I sent some comments this morning

15:32:39 <LeeF> That sounds perfect to me

Lee Feigenbaum: That sounds perfect to me

15:33:50 <AxelPolleres> let's decide over the changelog issue in the publication process and unify it (chairs)

let's decide over the changelog issue in the publication process and unify it (chairs)

15:33:59 <Souri> zakim, unmute me

Souripriya Das: zakim, unmute me

15:33:59 <Zakim> Souri should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: Souri should no longer be muted

15:34:29 <LeeF> action: David to review service description editors' draft

ACTION: David to review service description editors' draft

15:34:29 <trackbot> Sorry, amibiguous username (more than one match) - David

Trackbot IRC Bot: Sorry, amibiguous username (more than one match) - David

15:34:29 <trackbot> Try using a different identifier, such as family name or username (eg. dcharbon2, dnewman2)

Trackbot IRC Bot: Try using a different identifier, such as family name or username (eg. dcharbon2, dnewman2)

15:34:36 <LeeF> action: dcharbon2 to review service description editors' draft

ACTION: dcharbon2 to review service description editors' draft

15:34:37 <trackbot> Created ACTION-162 - Review service description editors' draft [on David Charboneau - due 2009-12-29].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-162 - Review service description editors' draft [on David Charboneau - due 2009-12-29].

15:34:44 <LeeF> action: Alex to review service description editors' draft

ACTION: Alex to review service description editors' draft

15:34:44 <trackbot> Created ACTION-163 - Review service description editors' draft [on Alexandre Passant - due 2009-12-29].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-163 - Review service description editors' draft [on Alexandre Passant - due 2009-12-29].

15:34:47 <LeeF> action: Axel to review service description editors' draft

ACTION: Axel to review service description editors' draft

15:34:47 <trackbot> Created ACTION-164 - Review service description editors' draft [on Axel Polleres - due 2009-12-29].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-164 - Review service description editors' draft [on Axel Polleres - due 2009-12-29].

15:36:33 <kasei> Zakim, mute me

Gregory Williams: Zakim, mute me

15:36:33 <Zakim> kasei should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: kasei should now be muted

15:36:59 <AxelPolleres> topic: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/entailment/xmlspec.xml

10. http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/entailment/xmlspec.xml

15:37:15 <AxelPolleres> entailment Reviewers: Ivan, Axel

entailment Reviewers: Ivan, Axel

15:38:00 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/http-rdf-update/

http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/http-rdf-update/

15:38:28 <LeeF> action: Ivan Herman to review entailment editors' draft

ACTION: Ivan Herman to review entailment editors' draft

15:38:28 <trackbot> Sorry, amibiguous username (more than one match) - Ivan

Trackbot IRC Bot: Sorry, amibiguous username (more than one match) - Ivan

15:38:28 <trackbot> Try using a different identifier, such as family name or username (eg. ivan, imikhail)

Trackbot IRC Bot: Try using a different identifier, such as family name or username (eg. ivan, imikhail)

15:38:36 <LeeF> action: ivan to review entailment editors' draft

ACTION: ivan to review entailment editors' draft

15:38:36 <trackbot> Sorry, amibiguous username (more than one match) - ivan

Trackbot IRC Bot: Sorry, amibiguous username (more than one match) - ivan

15:38:36 <trackbot> Try using a different identifier, such as family name or username (eg. ivan, imikhail)

Trackbot IRC Bot: Try using a different identifier, such as family name or username (eg. ivan, imikhail)

15:39:10 <AxelPolleres> http upfate reviewers reviewers: AndyS, LeeF, Axel

http upfate reviewers reviewers: AndyS, LeeF, Axel

15:39:11 <LeeF> action: Axel to review entailment editors' draft

ACTION: Axel to review entailment editors' draft

15:39:11 <trackbot> Created ACTION-165 - Review entailment editors' draft [on Axel Polleres - due 2009-12-29].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-165 - Review entailment editors' draft [on Axel Polleres - due 2009-12-29].

15:40:10 <AxelPolleres> topic: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/property-paths/Overview.xml

11. http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/property-paths/Overview.xml

15:40:13 <AndyS> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/property-paths/Overview.xml

Andy Seaborne: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/property-paths/Overview.xml

15:40:29 <LeeF> action: Andy to review http update editor's draft

ACTION: Andy to review http update editor's draft

15:40:29 <trackbot> Created ACTION-166 - Review http update editor's draft [on Andy Seaborne - due 2009-12-29].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-166 - Review http update editor's draft [on Andy Seaborne - due 2009-12-29].

15:40:35 <LeeF> action: Lee to review http update editor's draft

ACTION: Lee to review http update editor's draft

15:40:35 <trackbot> Created ACTION-167 - Review http update editor's draft [on Lee Feigenbaum - due 2009-12-29].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-167 - Review http update editor's draft [on Lee Feigenbaum - due 2009-12-29].

15:40:38 <LeeF> action: Axel to review http update editor's draft

ACTION: Axel to review http update editor's draft

15:40:38 <trackbot> Created ACTION-168 - Review http update editor's draft [on Axel Polleres - due 2009-12-29].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-168 - Review http update editor's draft [on Axel Polleres - due 2009-12-29].

15:40:53 <LeeF> I already reviewed it with an eye towards FPWD.

Lee Feigenbaum: I already reviewed it with an eye towards FPWD.

15:40:58 <LeeF> But will complete a longer review as well.

Lee Feigenbaum: But will complete a longer review as well.

15:41:29 <LeeF> action: Lee to review property path editor's draft for FPWD

ACTION: Lee to review property path editor's draft for FPWD

15:41:29 <trackbot> Created ACTION-169 - Review property path editor's draft for FPWD [on Lee Feigenbaum - due 2009-12-29].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-169 - Review property path editor's draft for FPWD [on Lee Feigenbaum - due 2009-12-29].

15:41:42 <LeeF> action: ivan to review property path editor's draft for FPWD

ACTION: ivan to review property path editor's draft for FPWD

15:41:42 <trackbot> Sorry, amibiguous username (more than one match) - ivan

Trackbot IRC Bot: Sorry, amibiguous username (more than one match) - ivan

15:41:42 <trackbot> Try using a different identifier, such as family name or username (eg. ivan, imikhail)

Trackbot IRC Bot: Try using a different identifier, such as family name or username (eg. ivan, imikhail)

15:42:13 <LeeF> action: ivanh to review entailment editors' draft

ACTION: ivanh to review entailment editors' draft

15:42:13 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - ivanh

Trackbot IRC Bot: Sorry, couldn't find user - ivanh

15:42:22 <LeeF> action: herman to review entailment editors' draft

ACTION: herman to review entailment editors' draft

15:42:22 <trackbot> Created ACTION-170 - Review entailment editors' draft [on Ivan Herman - due 2009-12-29].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-170 - Review entailment editors' draft [on Ivan Herman - due 2009-12-29].

15:42:39 <LeeF> action: herman to review property path editor's draft

ACTION: herman to review property path editor's draft

15:42:39 <trackbot> Created ACTION-171 - Review property path editor's draft [on Ivan Herman - due 2009-12-29].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-171 - Review property path editor's draft [on Ivan Herman - due 2009-12-29].

15:42:42 <KjetilK> can we discuss ISSUE-48?

Kjetil Kjernsmo: can we discuss ISSUE-48?

15:42:56 <sandro> RRSAgent, make log public

Sandro Hawke: RRSAgent, make log public

15:43:04 <LeeF> action: sdas2 to review property path editor's draft

ACTION: sdas2 to review property path editor's draft

15:43:04 <KjetilK> Zakim, unmute me

Kjetil Kjernsmo: Zakim, unmute me

15:43:04 <Zakim> KjetilK should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: KjetilK should no longer be muted

15:43:05 <trackbot> Created ACTION-172 - Review property path editor's draft [on Souripriya Das - due 2009-12-29].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-172 - Review property path editor's draft [on Souripriya Das - due 2009-12-29].

15:45:36 <AxelPolleres> topic: AOB

12. AOB

15:44:36 <AxelPolleres> Matt: looks that my comments on propertypaths didn't go through to the list

Matthew Perry: looks that my comments on propertypaths didn't go through to the list

15:43:36 <AxelPolleres> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2009OctDec/ ... nothing there

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2009OctDec/ ... nothing there

15:46:05 <sandro> MattPerry, It *was* held up for staff approval as possible spam --- I just approved it.

Sandro Hawke: MattPerry, It *was* held up for staff approval as possible spam --- I just approved it.

15:45:13 <KjetilK> q+

Kjetil Kjernsmo: q+

15:45:20 <SteveH_> q-

Steve Harris: q-

15:45:33 <AndyS> ack  KjetilK

Andy Seaborne: ack KjetilK

15:45:36 <AxelPolleres> topic: AOB (ISSUE-48)

13. AOB (ISSUE-48)

15:45:36 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/issues/48

http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/issues/48

15:46:42 <AxelPolleres> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2009OctDec/0644.html

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2009OctDec/0644.html

15:46:42 <AxelPolleres> ?

?

15:49:03 <AndyS> and FILTER?

Andy Seaborne: and FILTER?

15:50:14 <AxelPolleres> what's the issue with FILTERs in update?

what's the issue with FILTERs in update?

15:50:28 <SteveH_> a FILTER with a (NOT) EXISTS in it in the abbr. syntax would be very strange

Steve Harris: a FILTER with a (NOT) EXISTS in it in the abbr. syntax would be very strange

15:50:50 <AndyS> Example to discuss: DELETE { ?x :p ?v FILTER (?v > 23) }

Andy Seaborne: Example to discuss: DELETE { ?x :p ?v FILTER (?v > 23) }

15:51:07 <SteveH_> well, it is only an abbreviated syntax

Steve Harris: well, it is only an abbreviated syntax

15:51:15 <SteveH_> so for hard cases like that you can write it in full

Steve Harris: so for hard cases like that you can write it in full

15:51:46 <AxelPolleres> Paul: current proposal shortcut only when DELETE and WHERE are identical, not with FILTERs

Paul Gearon: current proposal shortcut only when DELETE and WHERE are identical, not with FILTERs

15:52:01 <AxelPolleres> ... Ansy says that it is semantically not critical.

... Ansy says that it is semantically not critical.

15:52:41 <AndyS> I pointed out there are no problems - wasn't the only one for it.

Andy Seaborne: I pointed out there are no problems - wasn't the only one for it.

15:52:49 <AxelPolleres> s/Ansy/Andy/

s/Ansy/Andy/

15:53:09 <Zakim> -AlexPassant

Zakim IRC Bot: -AlexPassant

15:53:55 <SteveH_> I like keeping FILTER out

Steve Harris: I like keeping FILTER out

15:54:05 <Zakim> +??P2

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P2

15:54:08 <AlexPassant> Zakim, ??P2 is me

Alexandre Passant: Zakim, ??P2 is me

15:54:08 <Zakim> +AlexPassant; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +AlexPassant; got it

15:55:25 <Zakim> -Souri

Zakim IRC Bot: -Souri

15:55:29 <Zakim> -Axel

Zakim IRC Bot: -Axel

15:55:29 <LeeF> cheers, everyone

Lee Feigenbaum: cheers, everyone

15:55:30 <Zakim> -SteveH_

Zakim IRC Bot: -SteveH_

15:55:31 <Zakim> -AlexPassant

Zakim IRC Bot: -AlexPassant

15:55:32 <Zakim> -Sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: -Sandro

15:55:34 <Zakim> -LeeF

Zakim IRC Bot: -LeeF

15:55:34 <Zakim> -MattPerry

Zakim IRC Bot: -MattPerry

15:55:38 <Zakim> -OlivierCorby

Zakim IRC Bot: -OlivierCorby

15:55:42 <Zakim> -Prateek

Zakim IRC Bot: -Prateek

15:55:45 <Zakim> -pgearon

Zakim IRC Bot: -pgearon

15:55:55 <AxelPolleres> Axel: I guess if someone *wants* FILTERs to be in the abbreviated update syntax, please post a review to the list!

Axel Polleres: I guess if someone *wants* FILTERs to be in the abbreviated update syntax, please post a review to the list!

15:56:00 <pgearon> Bye KjetilK

Paul Gearon: Bye KjetilK

15:56:02 <AndyS> Bye to KjetilK and good luck

Andy Seaborne: Bye to KjetilK and good luck

15:56:02 <Zakim> -KjetilK

Zakim IRC Bot: -KjetilK

15:56:04 <Zakim> -kasei

Zakim IRC Bot: -kasei

15:56:14 <KjetilK> thanks, AndyS and pgearon!

Kjetil Kjernsmo: thanks, AndyS and pgearon!

15:56:15 <Zakim> -AndyS

Zakim IRC Bot: -AndyS

15:56:17 <Zakim> SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has ended

Zakim IRC Bot: SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has ended

15:56:18 <Zakim> Attendees were AndyS, Axel, SteveH_, kasei, pgearon, +49.238.aaaa, LeeF, OlivierCorby, AlexPassant, Sandro, Souri, MattPerry, KjetilK, Prateek

Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were AndyS, Axel, SteveH_, kasei, pgearon, +49.238.aaaa, LeeF, OlivierCorby, AlexPassant, Sandro, Souri, MattPerry, KjetilK, Prateek

16:00:16 <AxelPolleres> Kjetil, good luck indeed, we should have said thank you for all your work in the TC! (Kjetil will be leaving the group, I just learnt)

Kjetil, good luck indeed, we should have said thank you for all your work in the TC! (Kjetil will be leaving the group, I just learnt)

16:00:16 <AxelPolleres> RRSAGENT, make log public

RRSAGENT, make log public



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