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14:50:03 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 77277
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14:50:03 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM scheduled to start in 10 minutes
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14:50:04 <trackbot> Meeting: SPARQL Working Group Teleconference
14:50:04 <trackbot> Date: 15 December 2009
14:50:04 <LeeF> zakim, this will be SPARQL
Lee Feigenbaum: zakim, this will be SPARQL ←
14:50:06 <Zakim> ok, LeeF; I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM scheduled to start in 10 minutes
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14:50:09 <LeeF> Chair: LeeF
14:50:30 <kasei> LeeF, was there an email to editors about today's schedule? (directly or via the list?)
Gregory Williams: LeeF, was there an email to editors about today's schedule? (directly or via the list?) ←
14:50:43 <LeeF> kasei, not sure what you mean?
Lee Feigenbaum: kasei, not sure what you mean? ←
14:51:03 <LeeF> LukeWM, are you able to scribe today's meeting?
Lee Feigenbaum: LukeWM, are you able to scribe today's meeting? ←
14:51:04 <kasei> about wanting to know open issues for the next round of drafts...
Gregory Williams: about wanting to know open issues for the next round of drafts... ←
14:51:17 <LukeWM> LeeF, yes
Luke Wilson-Mawer: LeeF, yes ←
14:51:20 <kasei> I feel as if I saw a response to such an email, but not the original.
Gregory Williams: I feel as if I saw a response to such an email, but not the original. ←
14:51:30 <LeeF> Ah, I think Axel sent something, one moment
Lee Feigenbaum: Ah, I think Axel sent something, one moment ←
14:52:52 <LeeF> kasei, it was http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2009OctDec/0598.html which has a pretty bad subject :)
Lee Feigenbaum: kasei, it was http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2009OctDec/0598.html which has a pretty bad subject :) ←
14:53:11 <LeeF> The main point was any issues that _need_ to be decided before publication, but i think there aren't many of those
Lee Feigenbaum: The main point was any issues that _need_ to be decided before publication, but i think there aren't many of those ←
14:53:28 <kasei> ok.
Gregory Williams: ok. ←
14:54:13 <LeeF> Scribenick: LukeWM
(Scribe set to Luke Wilson-Mawer)
14:54:14 <LeeF> LukeWM, thanks
Lee Feigenbaum: LukeWM, thanks ←
14:54:17 <kasei> can discuss during the call, but I'd like to get some input on the entailment-related SD terms before the publication.
Gregory Williams: can discuss during the call, but I'd like to get some input on the entailment-related SD terms before the publication. ←
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14:54:49 <kasei> wasn't entirely sure if the entailment terms had been nailed down in that lengthy email thread.
Gregory Williams: wasn't entirely sure if the entailment terms had been nailed down in that lengthy email thread. ←
14:54:59 <AndyS> zakim, IPCaller is me
Andy Seaborne: zakim, IPCaller is me ←
14:54:59 <Zakim> +AndyS; got it
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14:55:36 <LeeF> SteveH, we didn't resolve the scope of alias variables last week because we wanted your input - are you happy with the proposal as put in the agenda?
Lee Feigenbaum: SteveH, we didn't resolve the scope of alias variables last week because we wanted your input - are you happy with the proposal as put in the agenda? ←
14:55:39 <AndyS> SteveH, custom aggregate syntax?
Andy Seaborne: SteveH, custom aggregate syntax? ←
14:56:11 <SteveH> LeeF, I have no strong feelings on scope, whatever people think is sensible is fine by me
Steve Harris: LeeF, I have no strong feelings on scope, whatever people think is sensible is fine by me ←
14:56:12 <Zakim> +??P6
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14:56:19 <LeeF> thanks, SteveH
Lee Feigenbaum: thanks, SteveH ←
14:56:25 <SteveH> AndyS, someone mentioned optional AS, apparently, I'm firmly against that
Steve Harris: AndyS, someone mentioned optional AS, apparently, I'm firmly against that ←
14:56:33 <LukeWM> zakim, ??P6 is me
zakim, ??P6 is me ←
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14:56:41 <Zakim> +Lee_Feigenbaum
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14:56:46 <LeeF> zakim, Lee_Feigenbaum is me
Lee Feigenbaum: zakim, Lee_Feigenbaum is me ←
14:56:46 <Zakim> +LeeF; got it
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14:57:20 <AndyS> SteveH, reason? Comes up in example applications when not over HTTP.
Andy Seaborne: SteveH, reason? Comes up in example applications when not over HTTP. ←
14:57:25 <Zakim> +??P9
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P9 ←
14:57:27 <LeeF> the F2F discussion on custom syntax for aggregates was "Mild opinion in favor of having no keyword or special syntax for custom aggregate functions (LeeF, Axel, SteveH, kasei). pgearon (and observer dajobe) expressed mild preference for a keyword to introduce custom aggregates. Consensus that this should be advice to the editors. "
Lee Feigenbaum: the F2F discussion on custom syntax for aggregates was "Mild opinion in favor of having no keyword or special syntax for custom aggregate functions (LeeF, Axel, SteveH, kasei). pgearon (and observer dajobe) expressed mild preference for a keyword to introduce custom aggregates. Consensus that this should be advice to the editors. " ←
14:57:41 <MatthewPerry> zakim, ??P9 is me
Matthew Perry: zakim, ??P9 is me ←
14:57:41 <Zakim> +MatthewPerry; got it
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14:58:10 <Zakim> +kasei
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14:58:10 <LeeF> Agenda: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Agenda-2009-12-15
14:58:20 <LeeF> LeeF has changed the topic to: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Agenda-2009-12-15
Lee Feigenbaum: LeeF has changed the topic to: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Agenda-2009-12-15 ←
14:58:44 <kasei> Zakim, mute me
Gregory Williams: Zakim, mute me ←
14:58:44 <Zakim> kasei should now be muted
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14:58:54 <AndyS> It's down to SteveH in the end but this editor would go for no special syntax unless proven to need it in which case AGG(<uri>, ..args..)
Andy Seaborne: It's down to SteveH in the end but this editor would go for no special syntax unless proven to need it in which case AGG(<uri>, ..args..) ←
14:59:18 <LeeF> AndyS - I think that's the general feeling of the group then, but we'll talk about it in a bit (hopefully not for too long!)
Lee Feigenbaum: AndyS - I think that's the general feeling of the group then, but we'll talk about it in a bit (hopefully not for too long!) ←
14:59:30 <Zakim> +dcharbon2
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14:59:32 <Zakim> +??P21
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14:59:45 <KjetilK> Zakim, ??P21 is me
Kjetil Kjernsmo: Zakim, ??P21 is me ←
14:59:46 <Zakim> +KjetilK; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +KjetilK; got it ←
14:59:59 <SteveH> I prefer no special syntax too
Steve Harris: I prefer no special syntax too ←
15:00:10 <Zakim> +pgearon
Zakim IRC Bot: +pgearon ←
15:00:42 <LeeF> zakim, who's on the phone?
Lee Feigenbaum: zakim, who's on the phone? ←
15:00:43 <Zakim> On the phone I see AndyS, LukeWM, LeeF, MatthewPerry, kasei (muted), KjetilK, dcharbon2, pgearon
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see AndyS, LukeWM, LeeF, MatthewPerry, kasei (muted), KjetilK, dcharbon2, pgearon ←
15:00:45 <KjetilK> Zakim, mute me
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15:01:02 <Zakim> + +8686528aaaa
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15:01:11 <bglimm> Yakim, 8686528aaaa is me
Birte Glimm: Yakim, 8686528aaaa is me ←
15:01:19 <bglimm> Zakim, 8686528aaaa is me
Birte Glimm: Zakim, 8686528aaaa is me ←
15:01:19 <Zakim> sorry, bglimm, I do not recognize a party named '8686528aaaa'
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15:01:31 <bglimm> Zakim, + 8686528aaaa is me
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15:01:31 <Zakim> I don't understand '+ 8686528aaaa is me', bglimm
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15:01:41 <Zakim> +??P30
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15:01:45 <bglimm> Zakim, aaaa is me
Birte Glimm: Zakim, aaaa is me ←
15:01:45 <Zakim> +bglimm; got it
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15:01:55 <AlexPassant> Zakim, ??P30 is me
Alexandre Passant: Zakim, ??P30 is me ←
15:01:55 <Zakim> +AlexPassant; got it
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15:02:37 <Zakim> +Sandro
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15:03:30 <LeeF> zakim, who's on the phone?
Lee Feigenbaum: zakim, who's on the phone? ←
15:03:30 <Zakim> On the phone I see AndyS, LukeWM, LeeF, MatthewPerry, kasei (muted), KjetilK (muted), dcharbon2, pgearon, bglimm, AlexPassant, Sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see AndyS, LukeWM, LeeF, MatthewPerry, kasei (muted), KjetilK (muted), dcharbon2, pgearon, bglimm, AlexPassant, Sandro ←
15:04:18 <Zakim> +??P38
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P38 ←
15:04:53 <LeeF> zakim, ??P38 is Orri
Lee Feigenbaum: zakim, ??P38 is Orri ←
15:04:53 <Zakim> +Orri; got it
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15:05:06 <chimezie> zakim, what is the passcode?
Chimezie Ogbuji: zakim, what is the passcode? ←
15:05:06 <Zakim> the conference code is 77277 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), chimezie
Zakim IRC Bot: the conference code is 77277 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), chimezie ←
15:05:42 <Zakim> + +1.216.444.aabb
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15:05:51 <chimezie> zakim, 1.216.444.aabb is me
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15:05:51 <Zakim> sorry, chimezie, I do not recognize a party named '1.216.444.aabb'
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15:06:01 <LukeWM> LeeF: talks to people about whether they can make the third F2F
Lee Feigenbaum: talks to people about whether they can make the third F2F ←
15:06:13 <bglimm> Zakim, aabb is chimezie
Birte Glimm: Zakim, aabb is chimezie ←
15:06:13 <Zakim> +chimezie; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +chimezie; got it ←
15:06:46 <LeeF> zakim, who's on the phone?
Lee Feigenbaum: zakim, who's on the phone? ←
15:06:46 <Zakim> On the phone I see AndyS, LukeWM, LeeF, MatthewPerry, kasei (muted), KjetilK (muted), dcharbon2, pgearon, bglimm, AlexPassant, Sandro, Orri, chimezie
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see AndyS, LukeWM, LeeF, MatthewPerry, kasei (muted), KjetilK (muted), dcharbon2, pgearon, bglimm, AlexPassant, Sandro, Orri, chimezie ←
15:06:54 <LeeF> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Agenda-2009-12-15
Lee Feigenbaum: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Agenda-2009-12-15 ←
15:07:00 <LeeF> topic: admin
15:07:05 <chimezie> zakim, mute me
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15:07:09 <bglimm> Zakim, mute me
Birte Glimm: Zakim, mute me ←
15:07:09 <Zakim> bglimm should now be muted
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15:07:14 <LeeF> Regrets: SteveH, OlivierCorby, AxelP
15:07:16 <LeeF> PROPOSED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2009-12-08
PROPOSED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2009-12-08 ←
15:07:41 <LeeF> RESOLVED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2009-12-08
RESOLVED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2009-12-08 ←
15:07:49 <LeeF> Next meeting: 2009-12-22 @ 15:00 UK / 10:00 EST
Lee Feigenbaum: Next meeting: 2009-12-22 @ 15:00 UK / 10:00 EST ←
15:08:07 <LukeWM> LeeF: next meeting is going to be next week.
Lee Feigenbaum: next meeting is going to be next week. ←
15:08:18 <LeeF> subtopic: F2F3
15:08:23 <LukeWM> LeeF: get documents in order for publication in January, so it's useful to come if you can.
Lee Feigenbaum: get documents in order for publication in January, so it's useful to come if you can. ←
15:08:42 <LeeF> F2F3 will be March 25 & 26, 2010
Lee Feigenbaum: F2F3 will be March 25 & 26, 2010 ←
15:08:50 <LeeF> with 2 locations - one in Cambridge, MA at MIT
Lee Feigenbaum: with 2 locations - one in Cambridge, MA at MIT ←
15:08:54 <bglimm> Zakim, unmute me
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15:08:54 <Zakim> bglimm should no longer be muted
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15:09:00 <LukeWM> LeeF: F3F march 25, 26 with video conferencing.
Lee Feigenbaum: F3F march 25, 26 with video conferencing. ←
15:09:12 <LeeF> one location at Oxford, UK
Lee Feigenbaum: one location at Oxford, UK ←
15:09:41 <LeeF> ACTION: Sandro to work with Birte to figure out video conference facilities for F2F3
ACTION: Sandro to work with Birte to figure out video conference facilities for F2F3 ←
15:09:42 <trackbot> Created ACTION-154 - Work with Birte to figure out video conference facilities for F2F3 [on Sandro Hawke - due 2009-12-22].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-154 - Work with Birte to figure out video conference facilities for F2F3 [on Sandro Hawke - due 2009-12-22]. ←
15:10:11 <bglimm> Zakim, mute me
Birte Glimm: Zakim, mute me ←
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15:10:24 <LukeWM> LeeF: comment handling, some questions on the process.
Lee Feigenbaum: comment handling, some questions on the process. ←
15:10:38 <LeeF> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Comments
Lee Feigenbaum: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Comments ←
15:10:58 <LukeWM> LeeF: if you're swapped in on a relevant topic, compose response, put it on a link to the wiki on http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Comments, notify mailing list and wait a few days.
Lee Feigenbaum: if you're swapped in on a relevant topic, compose response, put it on a link to the wiki on http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Comments, notify mailing list and wait a few days. ←
15:11:25 <LukeWM> LeeF: if you have a response saying it's OK, send it out, if saying it's not OK, don't send it out.
Lee Feigenbaum: if you have a response saying it's OK, send it out, if saying it's not OK, don't send it out. ←
15:11:38 <LukeWM> LeeF: if no response, bug the chairs.
Lee Feigenbaum: if no response, bug the chairs. ←
15:11:46 <LukeWM> LeeF: no liason business?
Lee Feigenbaum: no liason business? ←
15:12:06 <LeeF> topic: scope of alias variables
15:12:57 <LukeWM> LeeF: question on the table is can the variable ?SUM be used in other places in the query.
Lee Feigenbaum: question on the table is can the variable ?SUM be used in other places in the query. ←
15:13:38 <LukeWM> LeeF: proposal is that they can be used in HAVING and further to the right in the SELECT clause, but they can't come in the query pattern.
Lee Feigenbaum: proposal is that they can be used in HAVING and further to the right in the SELECT clause, but they can't come in the query pattern. ←
15:13:41 <AndyS> q+
Andy Seaborne: q+ ←
15:13:50 <LeeF> ack AndyS
Lee Feigenbaum: ack AndyS ←
15:13:56 <LukeWM> iv_an_ru: why not in order by/group by?
Ivan Mikhailov: why not in order by/group by? ←
15:14:05 <LeeF> s/iv_an_ru/Orri
Lee Feigenbaum: s/iv_an_ru/Orri ←
15:14:13 <AndyS> wil check here
Andy Seaborne: wil check here ←
15:14:13 <LukeWM> thanks LeeF
thanks LeeF ←
15:14:15 <AndyS> sorry
Andy Seaborne: sorry ←
15:14:27 <AndyS> Should be in ORDER
Andy Seaborne: Should be in ORDER ←
15:14:53 <AndyS> need example for why it's needed.
Andy Seaborne: need example for why it's needed. ←
15:15:04 <AndyS> (this is GROUP BY in same SLECT block
Andy Seaborne: (this is GROUP BY in same SLECT block ←
15:15:05 <kasei> I think we can hear Andy :)
Gregory Williams: I think we can hear Andy :) ←
15:15:33 <LukeWM> AndyS: you can't GROUP BY COUNT(*) so the scoping issue is the same
Andy Seaborne: you can't GROUP BY COUNT(*) so the scoping issue is the same ←
15:15:46 <LukeWM> ... because the AS clause introduces new variables.
... because the AS clause introduces new variables. ←
15:15:57 <LukeWM> AndyS: you can say ORDER BY COUNT(*) though.
Andy Seaborne: you can say ORDER BY COUNT(*) though. ←
15:15:58 <kasei> but grouping by scalar expressions...?
Gregory Williams: but grouping by scalar expressions...? ←
15:16:47 <LukeWM> LeeF: we have open actions on SteveH to do with GROUP BY.
Lee Feigenbaum: we have open actions on SteveH to do with GROUP BY. ←
15:17:10 <LukeWM> LeeF: there are questions on expression equivalence etc. and it's all equivalent.
Lee Feigenbaum: there are questions on expression equivalence etc. and it's all equivalent. ←
15:17:25 <LukeWM> LeeF: I'd like to resolve this issue without touching the GROUP BY thing.
Lee Feigenbaum: I'd like to resolve this issue without touching the GROUP BY thing. ←
15:17:30 <AndyS> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2009OctDec/0585.html
Andy Seaborne: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2009OctDec/0585.html ←
15:17:31 <LukeWM> AndyS: fine
Andy Seaborne: fine ←
15:17:51 <LeeF> PROPOSED: Aliased variables can be used in expressions further to the right in the SELECT clause and in the HAVING clause and in the ORDER BY clause; query strings that have an aliased variable elsewhere (e.g. in the query pattern) are malformed queries.
PROPOSED: Aliased variables can be used in expressions further to the right in the SELECT clause and in the HAVING clause and in the ORDER BY clause; query strings that have an aliased variable elsewhere (e.g. in the query pattern) are malformed queries. ←
15:18:11 <AndyS> which says no to GROUP and yes to ORDER at that level of the SELECT nexting
Andy Seaborne: which says no to GROUP and yes to ORDER at that level of the SELECT nexting ←
15:18:31 <kasei> q+
Gregory Williams: q+ ←
15:18:35 <LeeF> ack kasei
Lee Feigenbaum: ack kasei ←
15:18:37 <kasei> Zakim, unmute me
Gregory Williams: Zakim, unmute me ←
15:18:37 <Zakim> kasei was not muted, kasei
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15:19:06 <LeeF> SELECT (?x + ?y AS ?sum) ... GROUP BY ?sum
Lee Feigenbaum: SELECT (?x + ?y AS ?sum) ... GROUP BY ?sum ←
15:19:28 <LukeWM> kasei: maybe this relates to GROUP BY with scalars? I'm worried by the way it's been phrased.
Gregory Williams: maybe this relates to GROUP BY with scalars? I'm worried by the way it's been phrased. ←
15:19:32 <AndyS> q+ to say it can be done
Andy Seaborne: q+ to say it can be done ←
15:19:38 <LeeF> ack AndyS
Lee Feigenbaum: ack AndyS ←
15:19:38 <Zakim> AndyS, you wanted to say it can be done
Zakim IRC Bot: AndyS, you wanted to say it can be done ←
15:19:50 <kasei> Zakim, mute me
Gregory Williams: Zakim, mute me ←
15:19:50 <Zakim> kasei should now be muted
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15:19:52 <LukeWM> LeeF:we can revisit the issues with GROUP BY later.
Lee Feigenbaum: we can revisit the issues with GROUP BY later. ←
15:20:32 <kasei> +1
Gregory Williams: +1 ←
15:20:33 <MatthewPerry> +1
Matthew Perry: +1 ←
15:20:35 <LukeWM> LeeF: order by now, revisit group bys later.
Lee Feigenbaum: order by now, revisit group bys later. ←
15:20:41 <LukeWM> LeeF: happy?
Lee Feigenbaum: happy? ←
15:20:45 <bglimm> +1
Birte Glimm: +1 ←
15:20:48 <LeeF> RESOLVED: Aliased variables can be used in expressions further to the right in the SELECT clause and in the HAVING clause and in the ORDER BY clause; query strings that have an aliased variable elsewhere (e.g. in the query pattern) are malformed queries.
RESOLVED: Aliased variables can be used in expressions further to the right in the SELECT clause and in the HAVING clause and in the ORDER BY clause; query strings that have an aliased variable elsewhere (e.g. in the query pattern) are malformed queries. ←
15:20:48 <AndyS> +1
Andy Seaborne: +1 ←
15:20:51 <dcharbon2> +1
David Charboneau: +1 ←
15:20:59 <LeeF> topic: custom syntax for aggregates
15:21:07 <LukeWM> LeeF: ... summary
Lee Feigenbaum: ... summary ←
15:21:23 <LukeWM> LeeF: Aggregate functions are different to scalars in a number of ways.
Lee Feigenbaum: Aggregate functions are different to scalars in a number of ways. ←
15:21:39 <LukeWM> LeeF: e.g. having, group by.
Lee Feigenbaum: e.g. having, group by. ←
15:22:00 <LukeWM> LeeF: sometimes you have to know if something is an aggregate function rather than a scalar.
Lee Feigenbaum: sometimes you have to know if something is an aggregate function rather than a scalar. ←
15:22:40 <LukeWM> LeeF: question is, do we want static syntax errors (grammar doesn't allow error conditions)?
Lee Feigenbaum: question is, do we want static syntax errors (grammar doesn't allow error conditions)? ←
15:22:54 <LukeWM> LeeF: no problem for built in aggregates
Lee Feigenbaum: no problem for built in aggregates ←
15:23:44 <LukeWM> LeeF: but challenging when custom functions are introduced. Arbitrary URIs don't allow differentiation between scalars and aggregates.
Lee Feigenbaum: but challenging when custom functions are introduced. Arbitrary URIs don't allow differentiation between scalars and aggregates. ←
15:24:51 <LukeWM> LeeF: Either: 1) a new piece of syntax and static syntax errors, or 2) make error conditions where implementations have to look up URIs and work out whether they're aggregates or not.
Lee Feigenbaum: Either: 1) a new piece of syntax and static syntax errors, or 2) make error conditions where implementations have to look up URIs and work out whether they're aggregates or not. ←
15:25:39 <LukeWM> LeeF: what do you all think? It seems there's a mild leaning towards not having custom syntax.
Lee Feigenbaum: what do you all think? It seems there's a mild leaning towards not having custom syntax. ←
15:25:49 <Zakim> +ssahoo2
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15:26:03 <Prateek> Zakim, ssahoo2 is Prateek
Prateek Jain: Zakim, ssahoo2 is Prateek ←
15:26:03 <Zakim> +Prateek; got it
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15:26:07 <LukeWM> LeeF: pgearon seemed pro custom syntax at F2F
Lee Feigenbaum: pgearon seemed pro custom syntax at F2F ←
15:26:44 <LukeWM> pgearon: happy to go with whatever the group goes with but.
Paul Gearon: happy to go with whatever the group goes with but. ←
15:26:45 <LukeWM> pgearon: was shooting from the hip earlier, but like to have a way of differentiating between what's built in and what's an extension.
Paul Gearon: was shooting from the hip earlier, but like to have a way of differentiating between what's built in and what's an extension. ←
15:27:23 <LukeWM> LeeF: we can still still differentiate between extensions and built in
Lee Feigenbaum: we can still still differentiate between extensions and built in ←
15:27:38 <Zakim> +??P42
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15:27:43 <LukeWM> pgearon: it could be confusing to people
Paul Gearon: it could be confusing to people ←
15:28:04 <LukeWM> LeeF: anyone else want special syntax for custom aggregates?
Lee Feigenbaum: anyone else want special syntax for custom aggregates? ←
15:28:12 <LeeF> zakim, ??P42 is Souri
Lee Feigenbaum: zakim, ??P42 is Souri ←
15:28:12 <Zakim> +Souri; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Souri; got it ←
15:28:52 <LeeF> PROPOSED: Custom aggregate functions are invoked by URIs with no special syntax
PROPOSED: Custom aggregate functions are invoked by URIs with no special syntax ←
15:29:13 <AndyS> seconded
Andy Seaborne: seconded ←
15:29:42 <bglimm> I abstain, I just don't know enough about the consequenes
Birte Glimm: I abstain, I just don't know enough about the consequenes ←
15:29:49 <bglimm> I go with the group too
Birte Glimm: I go with the group too ←
15:29:57 <Souri> +0
Souripriya Das: +0 ←
15:30:01 <LeeF> RESOLVED: Custom aggregate functions are invoked by URIs with no special syntax, no objections or abstentions
RESOLVED: Custom aggregate functions are invoked by URIs with no special syntax, no objections or abstentions ←
15:30:07 <LukeWM> LeeF: are you OK with this pgearon?
Lee Feigenbaum: are you OK with this pgearon? ←
15:30:16 <pgearon> yes
Paul Gearon: yes ←
15:30:20 <LukeWM> pgearon: Yes, I'll go with the group
Paul Gearon: Yes, I'll go with the group ←
15:30:26 <LeeF> topic: publication
15:30:45 <LukeWM> LeeF: had 2 goals.
Lee Feigenbaum: had 2 goals. ←
15:31:10 <LukeWM> LeeF: 1) Resolve issues.
Lee Feigenbaum: 1) Resolve issues. ←
15:31:20 <LukeWM> LeeF: 2) change information in the document.
Lee Feigenbaum: 2) change information in the document. ←
15:31:39 <LukeWM> LeeF: 3) Make sure reviewers are given a heads up.
Lee Feigenbaum: 3) Make sure reviewers are given a heads up. ←
15:31:48 <chimezie> change information in the document = change log at bottom or something more?
Chimezie Ogbuji: change information in the document = change log at bottom or something more? ←
15:32:19 <LukeWM> LeeF: being aggressive, and would like reviews in first week of January.
Lee Feigenbaum: being aggressive, and would like reviews in first week of January. ←
15:32:50 <chimezie> zakim, unmute me
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15:33:01 <LukeWM> LeeF: changing information in the document means looking at major changes since last time we looked at.
Lee Feigenbaum: changing information in the document means looking at major changes since last time we looked at. ←
15:33:08 <LukeWM> s/looked at/published/
s/looked at/published/ ←
15:33:39 <LukeWM> LeeF: hopefully publish middle/second half of january.
Lee Feigenbaum: hopefully publish middle/second half of january. ←
15:33:39 <LeeF> subtopic: query
15:33:43 <LeeF> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/query-1.1/
Lee Feigenbaum: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/query-1.1/ ←
15:34:00 <LukeWM> LeeF: where are we on 1), 2), 3) on query?
Lee Feigenbaum: where are we on 1), 2), 3) on query? ←
15:34:28 <LukeWM> AndyS: all but one issue is resolved, the one left is EXISTS or MINUS which won't be resolved with this publication.
Andy Seaborne: all but one issue is resolved, the one left is EXISTS or MINUS which won't be resolved with this publication. ←
15:35:12 <LukeWM> AndyS: Need to put exists material in the next few days.
Andy Seaborne: Need to put exists material in the next few days. ←
15:35:12 <LeeF> Query reviewers: Birte, Matt Souri, Axel
Lee Feigenbaum: Query reviewers: Birte, Matt Souri, Axel ←
15:35:30 <LukeWM> AndyS: not sure what SteveH's status is.
Andy Seaborne: not sure what SteveH's status is. ←
15:35:44 <LukeWM> LeeF: can you give the go ahead to the reviewers in the next week or so?
Lee Feigenbaum: can you give the go ahead to the reviewers in the next week or so? ←
15:36:01 <bglimm> Is query 1.1 now integrated with query 1.0?
Birte Glimm: Is query 1.1 now integrated with query 1.0? ←
15:36:04 <AndyS> See http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/WG-Documents
Andy Seaborne: See http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/WG-Documents ←
15:36:17 <LukeWM> AndyS: probably a bit stretched on Steve's end but don't want to put words in his mouth.
Andy Seaborne: probably a bit stretched on Steve's end but don't want to put words in his mouth. ←
15:36:39 <AndyS> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/query-1.1/rq25.xml
Andy Seaborne: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/query-1.1/rq25.xml ←
15:36:47 <LeeF> are we using http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/query-1.1/ or http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/query-1.1/rq25.xml?
Lee Feigenbaum: are we using http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/query-1.1/ or http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/query-1.1/rq25.xml? ←
15:37:06 <LukeWM> AndyS: haven't got the formatting sorted yet.
Andy Seaborne: haven't got the formatting sorted yet. ←
15:38:28 <chimezie> zakim, mute me
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15:39:08 <LeeF> Right now, look at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/query-1.1/rq25.xml for the latest
Lee Feigenbaum: Right now, look at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/query-1.1/rq25.xml for the latest ←
15:39:27 <LukeWM> Souri: rq25.xml is the latest?
Souripriya Das: rq25.xml is the latest? ←
15:39:28 <LeeF> subtopic: Update
15:39:29 <LeeF> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/update-1.1/
Lee Feigenbaum: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/update-1.1/ ←
15:39:31 <LukeWM> AndyS: yes
Andy Seaborne: yes ←
15:40:01 <AndyS> ACTION: Andy: Move Overview.html out of the way
ACTION: Andy: Move Overview.html out of the way ←
15:40:02 <trackbot> Created ACTION-155 - Move Overview.html out of the way [on Andy Seaborne - due 2009-12-22].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-155 - Move Overview.html out of the way [on Andy Seaborne - due 2009-12-22]. ←
15:40:40 <LukeWM> pgearon: The document links issues, do we keep them?
Paul Gearon: The document links issues, do we keep them? ←
15:41:05 <LukeWM> LeeF: Could go either way. It would be nice to keep them in the document.
Lee Feigenbaum: Could go either way. It would be nice to keep them in the document. ←
15:41:22 <LukeWM> pgearon: lots of the issues are no longer relevant but not formally resolved.
Paul Gearon: lots of the issues are no longer relevant but not formally resolved. ←
15:41:32 <LukeWM> LeeF: feel free to remove where appropriate.
Lee Feigenbaum: feel free to remove where appropriate. ←
15:41:51 <LeeF> Update reviewers: AndyS, Axel
Lee Feigenbaum: Update reviewers: AndyS, Axel ←
15:42:21 <LukeWM> LeeF: is it going to be ready for reviewers soon?
Lee Feigenbaum: is it going to be ready for reviewers soon? ←
15:42:27 <LukeWM> pgearon: at least by the weekend?
Paul Gearon: at least by the weekend? ←
15:42:48 <LukeWM> LeeF: any issues, just bring them up with the chairs, and we'll give teleconference time to them.
Lee Feigenbaum: any issues, just bring them up with the chairs, and we'll give teleconference time to them. ←
15:42:51 <LeeF> subtopic: protocol
15:42:52 <LeeF> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/protocol-1.1/
Lee Feigenbaum: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/protocol-1.1/ ←
15:43:41 <LukeWM> LeeF: david, we should schedule something.
Lee Feigenbaum: david, we should schedule something. ←
15:43:45 <Zakim> -bglimm
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15:43:49 <LukeWM> LeeF: friday?
Lee Feigenbaum: friday? ←
15:44:02 <LukeWM> dcharbon2: OK
David Charboneau: OK ←
15:44:15 <LukeWM> LeeF & dcharbon2 coordinate a meeting.
LeeF & dcharbon2 coordinate a meeting. ←
15:44:20 <LeeF> Leef & dcharbon2 will meet 11am on Friday to sort through protocol document
Lee Feigenbaum: Leef & dcharbon2 will meet 11am on Friday to sort through protocol document ←
15:44:24 <Zakim> +bglimm
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15:44:48 <LeeF> subtopic: service description
15:44:48 <LeeF> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/service-description-1.1/
Lee Feigenbaum: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/service-description-1.1/ ←
15:44:51 <LukeWM> LeeF: david & I will send out plan for protocol on the mailing list based on Friday's meeting.
Lee Feigenbaum: david & I will send out plan for protocol on the mailing list based on Friday's meeting. ←
15:44:51 <kasei> Zakim, unmute me
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15:45:16 <LukeWM> kasei: there are a couple of things to get in this week
Gregory Williams: there are a couple of things to get in this week ←
15:45:40 <LukeWM> kasei: one of them is allowing the dataset to have a different name for the graph than the graph's IRI.
Gregory Williams: one of them is allowing the dataset to have a different name for the graph than the graph's IRI. ←
15:46:19 <LukeWM> kasei, I didn't understand something, should I just pull from emails?
kasei, I didn't understand something, should I just pull from emails? ←
15:46:32 <LukeWM> bglimm: fine by me, not sure about ivanH.
Birte Glimm: fine by me, not sure about ivanH. ←
15:46:53 <LeeF> SD reviwers: david, Alex, Axel
Lee Feigenbaum: SD reviwers: david, Alex, Axel ←
15:46:53 <LukeWM> kasei: will have it done in the next couple of days and then people can look at it.
Gregory Williams: will have it done in the next couple of days and then people can look at it. ←
15:47:08 <bglimm> I'll also have a quick look at SDs
Birte Glimm: I'll also have a quick look at SDs ←
15:47:10 <LeeF> subtopic: http rdf update
15:47:10 <LeeF> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/http-rdf-update/
Lee Feigenbaum: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/http-rdf-update/ ←
15:47:12 <kasei> Zakim, mute me
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15:47:12 <chimezie> zakim, unmute me
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15:47:31 <LeeF> reviewers for rdf-update: andyS, LeeF, Axel
Lee Feigenbaum: reviewers for rdf-update: andyS, LeeF, Axel ←
15:47:33 <chimezie> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/CommentResponse:ldodds-http-update#Response
Chimezie Ogbuji: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/CommentResponse:ldodds-http-update#Response ←
15:48:02 <LeeF> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/http-rdf-update/
Lee Feigenbaum: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/http-rdf-update/ ←
15:48:32 <LukeWM> chimezie, added a link to the general idea of a use case for adding a user to a list.
chimezie, added a link to the general idea of a use case for adding a user to a list. ←
15:49:00 <AndyS> q+ to asks about graph naming
Andy Seaborne: q+ to asks about graph naming ←
15:49:02 <LukeWM> chimezie: items in red are not issues as far as I'm concerned, are they issues according to the working group?
Chimezie Ogbuji: items in red are not issues as far as I'm concerned, are they issues according to the working group? ←
15:49:17 <LukeWM> chimezie: we should probably assume RDFXML as a payload type.
Chimezie Ogbuji: we should probably assume RDFXML as a payload type. ←
15:49:52 <LeeF> ack AndyS
Lee Feigenbaum: ack AndyS ←
15:49:52 <Zakim> AndyS, you wanted to asks about graph naming
Zakim IRC Bot: AndyS, you wanted to asks about graph naming ←
15:49:57 <LukeWM> LeeF: in the interests of time, lets leave the red notes in because we might not formally be able to resolve them before publication.
Lee Feigenbaum: in the interests of time, lets leave the red notes in because we might not formally be able to resolve them before publication. ←
15:50:45 <Souri> q+
Souripriya Das: q+ ←
15:50:51 <LukeWM> AndyS: we had a discussion in the working group regarding graph namin.
Andy Seaborne: we had a discussion in the working group regarding graph namin. ←
15:50:52 <LeeF> ack Souri
Lee Feigenbaum: ack Souri ←
15:51:16 <LukeWM> AndyS: we should probably talk about it.
Andy Seaborne: we should probably talk about it. ←
15:51:19 <LukeWM> chimezie: OK
Chimezie Ogbuji: OK ←
15:51:34 <LukeWM> Souri: ntriples will be allowed too, right?
Souripriya Das: ntriples will be allowed too, right? ←
15:51:40 <LukeWM> chimezie: yes
Chimezie Ogbuji: yes ←
15:51:53 <LukeWM> LeeF: what do you need to do before reviewers can look at the document.
Lee Feigenbaum: what do you need to do before reviewers can look at the document. ←
15:52:15 <LukeWM> LeeF: ?
Lee Feigenbaum: ? ←
15:52:23 <bglimm> Zakim, mute me
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15:52:27 <LukeWM> chimezie: look at the things that have been talked about today. Will take a couple of days.
Chimezie Ogbuji: look at the things that have been talked about today. Will take a couple of days. ←
15:52:31 <LeeF> subtopic: property paths
15:52:32 <LeeF> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/property-paths/Overview.xml
Lee Feigenbaum: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/property-paths/Overview.xml ←
15:52:47 <LukeWM> AndyS: I asked reviewers about publishing as is.
Andy Seaborne: I asked reviewers about publishing as is. ←
15:53:07 <LukeWM> AndyS: as it's the first time, I think getting something out is the most important thing.
Andy Seaborne: as it's the first time, I think getting something out is the most important thing. ←
15:53:17 <LukeWM> AndyS: would like reviewers to make comments on that position.
Andy Seaborne: would like reviewers to make comments on that position. ←
15:53:38 <LeeF> subtopic: entailment
15:53:39 <bglimm> Zakim, unmute me
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15:53:40 <LeeF> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/entailment/xmlspec.xml
Lee Feigenbaum: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/entailment/xmlspec.xml ←
15:53:46 <LukeWM> LeeF: my opinion is that it's a good idea to let the world know what we're doing on this.
Lee Feigenbaum: my opinion is that it's a good idea to let the world know what we're doing on this. ←
15:54:17 <LukeWM> LeeF: what would you need to do bglimm before it is ready for review
Lee Feigenbaum: what would you need to do bglimm before it is ready for review ←
15:54:18 <LeeF> entailment regimes review: ivanh, Axel
Lee Feigenbaum: entailment regimes review: ivanh, Axel ←
15:54:37 <LukeWM> bglimm: should be ready in a day.
Birte Glimm: should be ready in a day. ←
15:55:07 <bglimm> Zakim, mute me
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15:55:19 <LeeF> close as no longer valid:
Lee Feigenbaum: close as no longer valid: ←
15:55:19 <LeeF> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/actions/19
Lee Feigenbaum: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/actions/19 ←
15:55:19 <LeeF> close as completed:
Lee Feigenbaum: close as completed: ←
15:55:19 <LeeF> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/actions/82
Lee Feigenbaum: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/actions/82 ←
15:55:19 <LeeF> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/actions/89
Lee Feigenbaum: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/actions/89 ←
15:55:20 <LeeF> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/actions/117
Lee Feigenbaum: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/actions/117 ←
15:55:22 <LeeF> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/actions/142
Lee Feigenbaum: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/actions/142 ←
15:56:04 <LukeWM> LeeF: action 19 no longer valid.
Lee Feigenbaum: ACTION-19 no longer valid. ←
15:56:17 <LukeWM> LeeF: action 82 has been dealt with today.
Lee Feigenbaum: ACTION-82 has been dealt with today. ←
15:56:27 <LukeWM> LeeF: 89, no longer relevant.
Lee Feigenbaum: 89, no longer relevant. ←
15:56:34 <LukeWM> LeeF: 117, greg has done this.
Lee Feigenbaum: 117, greg has done this. ←
15:56:44 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-19
Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-19 ←
15:56:44 <trackbot> ACTION-19 Send to the mailing list a few example cases (data, query, results) of SELECT queries in FILTERs closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-19 Send to the mailing list a few example cases (data, query, results) of SELECT queries in FILTERs closed ←
15:56:46 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-82
Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-82 ←
15:56:46 <trackbot> ACTION-82 Start thread on mailing list re: ISSUE-36 closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-82 Start thread on mailing list re: ISSUE-36 closed ←
15:56:47 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-89
Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-89 ←
15:56:47 <trackbot> ACTION-89 Go through issues list, figure out status, which need to be discussed in TCs, which have pending actions, which can be resolved closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-89 Go through issues list, figure out status, which need to be discussed in TCs, which have pending actions, which can be resolved closed ←
15:56:49 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-117
Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-117 ←
15:56:50 <trackbot> ACTION-117 Incorporate an example for extensibility by the end of the week into SD closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-117 Incorporate an example for extensibility by the end of the week into SD closed ←
15:56:51 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-142
Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-142 ←
15:56:54 <trackbot> ACTION-142 Summarise changes of SD and conclusions from last TC along with open questions. closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-142 Summarise changes of SD and conclusions from last TC along with open questions. closed ←
15:56:55 <LukeWM> LeeF: 142 is complete, anyone thing they aren't done?
Lee Feigenbaum: 142 is complete, anyone thing they aren't done? ←
15:56:56 <bglimm> ACTION-153 is also completed
Birte Glimm: ACTION-153 is also completed ←
15:57:05 <chimezie> Zakim, mute me
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15:57:05 <bglimm> that's changelog
Birte Glimm: that's changelog ←
15:57:14 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-153
Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-153 ←
15:57:14 <trackbot> ACTION-153 Provide a high-level changelog summarising what has happened since FPWD in entailment closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-153 Provide a high-level changelog summarising what has happened since FPWD in entailment closed ←
15:58:01 <LukeWM> LeeF: happy holiday
Lee Feigenbaum: happy holiday ←
15:58:06 <LukeWM> bye
bye ←
15:58:06 <bglimm> Bye
Birte Glimm: Bye ←
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15:58:32 <LeeF> LukeWM, thanks very much for scribing - can you take care of the minutes the rest of the way?
Lee Feigenbaum: LukeWM, thanks very much for scribing - can you take care of the minutes the rest of the way? ←
16:03:41 <LukeWM> sure
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16:03:51 <ivanH> zakim, code?
Ivan Herman: zakim, code? ←
16:03:51 <Zakim> the conference code is 77277 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), ivanH
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16:03:56 <LukeWM> LeeF, how long can I leave it before I do the minutes?
LeeF, how long can I leave it before I do the minutes? ←
16:04:01 <ivanH> zakim, dial ivanH-voip
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16:04:01 <Zakim> ok, ivanH; the call is being made
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16:04:02 <Zakim> +IvanH
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16:04:14 <LukeWM> If I do them on Thursday, is that ok? (Big deadline on wed)
If I do them on Thursday, is that ok? (Big deadline on wed) ←
16:10:17 <Zakim> -IvanH
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16:12:59 <LeeF> LukeWM, yes, any time before next Tuesday is really fine
Lee Feigenbaum: LukeWM, yes, any time before next Tuesday is really fine ←
16:13:07 <LeeF> good luck with the deadline :)
Lee Feigenbaum: good luck with the deadline :) ←
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16:35:05 <Zakim> Attendees were AndyS, LukeWM, LeeF, MatthewPerry, kasei, dcharbon2, KjetilK, pgearon, +8686528aaaa, bglimm, AlexPassant, Sandro, Orri, +1.216.444.aabb, chimezie, Prateek, Souri,
Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were AndyS, LukeWM, LeeF, MatthewPerry, kasei, dcharbon2, KjetilK, pgearon, +8686528aaaa, bglimm, AlexPassant, Sandro, Orri, +1.216.444.aabb, chimezie, Prateek, Souri, ←
16:35:08 <Zakim> ... IvanH
Zakim IRC Bot: ... IvanH ←
16:42:10 <LukeWM> Cool, thanks LeeF, I'll need all the luck I can get I think
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Cool, thanks LeeF, I'll need all the luck I can get I think ←
17:22:36 <LeeF> :-)
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Lee Feigenbaum: :-) ←
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