04 Dec 2009

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Michael_Hausenblas, Jonathan_Rees, David_Booth
Jonathan Rees



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<mhausenblas> http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/awwsw/http-semantics-report-20091204.html


Draft at http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/awwsw/http-semantics-report.html

<dbooth> David: "corresponds to" sounds like "hasRepresentation"

<mhausenblas> regarding the time dimension

<mhausenblas> http://www.slideshare.net/hvdsomp/memento-time-travel-for-the-web

HTTP spec doesn't use "has representation"

<dbooth> David: I was thinking a little about how to deal with time. It seems to me there are two important cases: 1. The user/client only cares about the present. 2. The user/client wants to distinguish between what may hold now and what may hold in the future/past.

<dbooth> David: These may justify two different granularities of ontology.

<mhausenblas> http://esw.w3.org/topic/AwwswHome/DraftReport

<dbooth> dbooth: In the section about Correspondences, s/reified correspondences/correspondences/

<mhausenblas> in section 'The 'data' URI scheme', please do s/ not occur in the RFC/not occur in the RFC2397

<mhausenblas> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-hammer-discovery-03#section-8.2

<dbooth> David: I suggest calling "Coincidences" "Correspondence Delegation"

<mhausenblas> I'd prefer to cut down the list in sec. "Appendix: HTTP response status code analysis"

<mhausenblas> reasons

<mhausenblas> we have gone through all of them

<mhausenblas> and we have selected some to be relevant

<mhausenblas> what, for example distinguishes a 305 (N/A) to a lot of 41x

<mhausenblas> both are N/A in my understanding

<dbooth> David: Also in the Coincides section, I suggest s/coincides_with/delegates_to/


<mhausenblas> from HTTPbis:

<mhausenblas> "If the 307 status code is received in response to a request method

<mhausenblas> that is known to be "safe", as defined in Section 7.1.1, then the

<mhausenblas> request MAY be automatically redirected by the user agent without

<mhausenblas> confirmation. "


db: exposition problem

explain why not 'delegation'

<dbooth> David: I think the ont would be clearer if the n-ary relations are made more explicit, perhaps with a diagram.

ruby book re 307/303

X speaks for Y means: if X authorizes Z, then Y authorizes Z

assume that server and client agree on a way to divide frame from main content

<dbooth> David: In correspondences section, would be good to explain that a correspondence is like 'has representation" in AWWW.

class C

C is class of tuples (formal artifact implementation an n-ary relation) if:

there exist properties P1, ..., Pn

such that Pi is functional i.e. C related via Pi to only one thing (OWL)

i.e. there is a unique c in C such that C P1 x1 ... C Pn xn

<dbooth> If C has tuples <r,a,u>

scribe: => and ... and

<dbooth> e.g., <r1, a1, u1>

when is C a class of triples?

when is C a product?


<dbooth> David: This is excellent work Jonathan. And I like very much the "speaks for" notion that you've put in the httpRange-14 section

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