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<dbooth> David: "corresponds to" sounds like "hasRepresentation"
<mhausenblas> regarding the time dimension
HTTP spec doesn't use "has representation"
<dbooth> David: I was thinking a little about how to deal with time. It seems to me there are two important cases: 1. The user/client only cares about the present. 2. The user/client wants to distinguish between what may hold now and what may hold in the future/past.
<dbooth> David: These may justify two different granularities of ontology.
<dbooth> dbooth: In the section about Correspondences, s/reified correspondences/correspondences/
<mhausenblas> in section 'The 'data' URI scheme', please do s/ not occur in the RFC/not occur in the RFC2397
<dbooth> David: I suggest calling "Coincidences" "Correspondence Delegation"
<mhausenblas> I'd prefer to cut down the list in sec. "Appendix: HTTP response status code analysis"
<mhausenblas> we have gone through all of them
<mhausenblas> and we have selected some to be relevant
<mhausenblas> what, for example distinguishes a 305 (N/A) to a lot of 41x
<mhausenblas> both are N/A in my understanding
<dbooth> David: Also in the Coincides section, I suggest s/coincides_with/delegates_to/
<mhausenblas> from HTTPbis:
<mhausenblas> "If the 307 status code is received in response to a request method
<mhausenblas> that is known to be "safe", as defined in Section 7.1.1, then the
<mhausenblas> request MAY be automatically redirected by the user agent without
<mhausenblas> confirmation. "
db: exposition problem
explain why not 'delegation'
<dbooth> David: I think the ont would be clearer if the n-ary relations are made more explicit, perhaps with a diagram.
ruby book re 307/303
X speaks for Y means: if X authorizes Z, then Y authorizes Z
assume that server and client agree on a way to divide frame from main content
<dbooth> David: In correspondences section, would be good to explain that a correspondence is like 'has representation" in AWWW.
C is class of tuples (formal artifact implementation an n-ary relation) if:
there exist properties P1, ..., Pn
such that Pi is functional i.e. C related via Pi to only one thing (OWL)
i.e. there is a unique c in C such that C P1 x1 ... C Pn xn
<dbooth> If C has tuples <r,a,u>
scribe: => and ... and
<dbooth> e.g., <r1, a1, u1>
when is C a class of triples?
when is C a product?
<dbooth> David: This is excellent work Jonathan. And I like very much the "speaks for" notion that you've put in the httpRange-14 section
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