<laurent_oz> Hello

<ocorcho> +3491633aadd is ocorcho

<Holger> ScribeNick: krp

<Holger> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Minutes-f2f-2009-10-24

Holger: it has been looked into where WebProtege could run
... but haven't heard back from Manfred/DERI

<rgarcia> +q

Luis: We shouldn't be held back on getting going by waiting on any particular tool

Holger: of those working on the ontology it would be useful to use a common tool

Luis: agree. We should use one tool. How about Topbraid (there's now a free version)?
... and using SVN, as done in the OGC

rgarcia: UPM will see if they can run Web Protege; then we can look at if we can host SVN

<scribe> ACTION: Luis will check about setting up SVN, possibly at sourceforge [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/11/24-ssn-minutes.html#action01]

<Holger> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Reference_Use_Cases

Use cases

<ocorcho> +q

Holger: has put the winning use cases on the wiki

<laurent_oz> +q

Holger: suggest these winning use cases are presented in more detail if needed

Oscar: 1 and 6 are device oriented
... 2 is focussed on data, and 5 is in the middle

laurent: add to 5 some element of composition problems

holger: So we might categorise as: device, data, and process oriented
... and use these broader use cases

<laurent_oz> +1

<Arthur> +1

<Luis_Bermudez> +1

<ocorcho> +1

<rgarcia> +1

<michael> +1

laurent: and we could re-attach some of the previous use cases

<cory> +1

holger: do we need to focus within each category?

michael: some specific examples within each

<laurent_oz> I can take the provenance one

holger: for each use category have someone lead selecting specific examples in each
... I can take devices

Oscar and Kevin: we are interested, but have time problems in the immediate weeks

<scribe> ACTION: Laurent will lead the process use cases, Holger the devices, and Oscar (Kevin will help) data [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/11/24-ssn-minutes.html#action02]

<laurent_oz> +q

Sorry Lauren, didn't catch that, was that a specific paper you were mentioning?

Laurent: was there any paper/references to cover the use cases brought up at the f2f?

<scribe> ACTION: Laurent will survey the literature for the use cases [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/11/24-ssn-minutes.html#action03]

Laurent: has added some material to the semantic annotation

cory: this is mostly on services, but is in scope and valid
... laurent has also added information on other techniques (e.g. microformats)
... also about specific lifting scripts - this might not be such an issue if we're lifting to a known, specific, ontology

Laurent: who has done work on using lifting?

cory: we've done this in O&M
... next, maybe we can focus on use cases to prioritise mechanisms

<laurent_oz> +q

holger: focus on annotation use cases first, then as the ontology hardens the annotation can be applied to this

laurent: we can also see where the markup use cases fit into the ontology use cases

holger: develop use cases separately but keep in mind they'll probably have dependencies as

luis: what is the next step? Develop some specific solutions? (xslt etc.)

cory: develop the framework first generically before tying to specific technologies
... take the general use case categories, and come up with a specific question in each one

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Guessing minutes URL: http://www.w3.org/2009/11/24-ssn-minutes.html
People with action items: laurent luis