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<MiraS> approved
<ArunKumar> fine with me too
http://www.w3.org/2008/MW4D/docs/roadmapv2.htm
<raphael> Steph: New reviews of the roadmap planned after publication (invite coments)
<raphael> Used to renew interest too
<raphael> on the subject
<raphael> OK w/me too
<raphael> Hi Renjish
<ArunKumar> no Q from me
<raphael> Steph: doc to be published on 16 Nov.
http://www.w3.org/2007/12/MW4D/charter1.1.html
<yoshiko> hi steph, youshiko is here.
hi Yoshiko
<yoshiko> i have no phone for a moment but will join in the teleconf. as soon as one wireless phone is released.
<raphael> hi Yoshiko
<yoshiko> hi raphael!
<raphael> Steph: 2 types of groups
Raphael: interest still there, attracting attention
<yoshiko> yoshiko -- speaking que
other initiatives without background of W3C
good to have this visibility, good to have the work conitnued
and could update the roadmap
rechartering on longer term sounds good
Yoshiko: fully agree with Raphael
the roadmpa paper good point of departure, will be seen by numerous people
revised the doc in a year
bigger volume of experience will come
good to revisit and update it
Mira: useful recommendation in the doc, and we could start at some of them
yoshiko:
media visibiity
<raphael> Steph: question of press release
<raphael> to be considered
<scribe> ACTION: steph to drive the advertising of the document when published [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/11/09-mw4d-minutes.html#action01]
yoshiko: make a good press release
<raphael> Steph: all networks' potential should be used too
yoshiko: i can distribute to my own lists, some other people like Katrin Verclas
have a great documents
<scribe> ACTION: stephane to work on PR [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/11/09-mw4d-minutes.html#action02]
yoshiko: follow-up, evolution
people should monitor different topics
volunteers to see how the domain evolved
i'm volunteering for the policy aspect
stephane: good idea
for me mobile web and voice
raphael: happy to monitor applications on phones (data, native applications like Java)
yoshiko: policy and social aspects
renjish: next vision might different
looking at beyond things
<raphael> I agree with Renjish, but the two can be explored in parallel
<raphael> one area could cover "new types of usages/application families"
renjish: application commonalities and differences, community interactions
look at margin solutions
<raphael> We could rework the whole document structure in new versions, I guess
from a data perspective
renjish: should leave the lowest comon denominator
mira: issues interesting: identity and privacy, monetizing and micro-payment
for service to become sustainable
<scribe> ACTION: steph to create a new wiki page for the future of the group [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/11/09-mw4d-minutes.html#action03]
renjish: so many group working on ICTD, lots of studies, but any real impact analysis ?
real improvement from the customer prospective
any such studies ?
raphel: support renjish comments, something duly missing in all project world
something we could work on
<yoshiko> q
raphael: discussion with other groups
creating bridges with other groups
<ArunKumar> These links might be of interest to the group (1) http://ict4dblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/idrc-ia-for-ict4d-compendium1.doc (2) http://insight.eun.org/ww/en/pub/insight/misc/specialreports/impact_study.htm
miras: impact assessment of MIS: that's my primary interest
very little on that for now
no real data or publication
mark davies from esoko also interested
yoshiko: impact assessment: few publication because it is just started
we should use use our mailing-list to share information
our work need to be known and understand
maybe a workshop ? on teleconference call ?
<raphael> Thanks, Arun, for the links
maybe a good start
<Renjish> I think that's a good idea..
it needs to be understand
<Renjish> can we have a webcast?
<Renjish> Steph could perhaps present?
steph: webcast or online ws may be a good idea
mira: the issue is that impact assessment is very sensitive politically
beyond the lact of datas
<ArunKumar> Another good example of impact : http://www.hole-in-the-wall.com/findings.html
Raphael: encourage people on wiki with a more structured page
<Renjish> ok. fine
november 30
<ArunKumar> I would be travelling. Apologies.
<raphael> 14h00 cet+1
<MiraS> 30th nov is good with me
<raphael> thanks
<raphael> bye
<Renjish> bye
<ArunKumar> bye
<MiraS> bye