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<scribe> Scribe: Addison Phillips
<scribe> ScribeNick: aphillip
discussion of language declarations in html5
brief discussion of texting and encodings in india
Richard: respond on our behalf to CSS on ruby issue
addison: set up document edit transition with dan for ws-i18n
all: review HTML5 (rolling action item to be reviewed weekly)
addison: make a table of date changes for DST
all: review UAX#46 draft for
review in two weeks
... deal with DOM events requests in 10-21 minutes
tpac... do we need dialin?
david: saw a presentation on
... on Google Wave
... has interesting things in it, like online sim-translation
... and it's "in HTML5 on current browsers"
richard: japanese IG for HTML5 being set up
richard: looked into it
... 1. hixie has changed meaning of <meta> definition
... so no longer equates to http
addison: which we objected to in past
richard: and if multiple values
in HTTP then equivalent to empty xml:lang
... despairing a little
... because it is hard to get folks to use language declarations
... and its very complicated
... XHTML and XML and HTML4 etc.
... and then in HTML5 things would be slightly different again
... so want to propose
... equate http and <meta>
... explain clearly for declaring language(s) of doc as whole
... and should define defualt processing lang using 'lang'
... and if lang is missing on <html> element and if defined in HTTP or <meta>
... use to guess if contains a single value
... if multiple values, then equate to empty string
addison: i agree with this
... think hixie's text is okay for assigning <html>
... but not forbidding multi values in <meta>
<scribe> ACTION: richard: send a response on behalf of I18N about language tagging in html5 supporting proposal of keeping meta as-is [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/10/28-core-minutes.html#action01]
This is the main item. Topics include: - IRI coordination - Meeting with HTML5 - Meeting with ECMAScript - Document editing?
<scribe> ACTION: addison: write to paulc to arrange a joint session with html [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/10/28-core-minutes.html#action02]
webfonts, webapps, css, qt?
<scribe> ACTION: addison: ping webfonts, webapps, css, and qt to ping for interest in joint sessioning [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/10/28-core-minutes.html#action03]
<scribe> ACTION: addison: invite ECMAScript folks to visit with us [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/10/28-core-minutes.html#action04]
richard: contacted by w3c india
... he says...
<r12a> > > there is a debate in India about the SMS text encoding .Some
<r12a> > Group in
<r12a> > > India proposes for 7 bit encoding standard based on National
<r12a> > Language> Table using Shift and Lock-Shift mechanism as per 3GPP
<r12a> > standard. This
<r12a> > > was proposed for transmitting SMS of almost same size as in
<r12a> > GSM 7 bit
<r12a> > > standard However from the present literature we found that the
<r12a> > default> text encoding format for messaging systems for Mobile
<r12a> > Applications in
<r12a> > > UTF-8 for the next generation Mobile Standards like 3GPP2, 4G and
<r12a> > > standard proposed by OMA (open mobile allience).
<r12a> > > As national level body we propose that the default text encoding
<r12a> > > format needs to be UTF-8 as this is based on UNICODE and has
<r12a> > > interoperability with W3C standards, and IETF standards for internet
<r12a> > > data excahnge. This will ensure interoperability across
<r12a> > platform ,
<r12a> > > devices and data exchange formats.
<r12a> > > We shall be grateful if you please indicate t
<r12a> the W3C position
<r12a> > and views
addison: propose that as our wg position, although we understand the issues involved?
richard: will send a response and copy winter
richard: also had some
discussions with cindy about her personal names preso at
... she had more information that was useful
... possibility of collaborating
... info about personal names into CLDR??
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