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<trackbot> Date: 06 October 2009
<Chris> \me I think its wonsuk
review of previous minutes
<raphael> Scribe: veronique
<raphael> Scribenick: VeroniqueM
previous minutes accepted
UNKNOWN_SPEAKER: request will be sent on the mailing list
http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/open
http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/47
<Chris> I think Werner is only on irc
<daniel> werner: action-47 is still open or closed ?
Daniel: Werner: what is the status of this action item?
<wbailer> action 47 is ongoing
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - 47
action 47 still pending
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - 47
<daniel> felix are you on the call or only IRC ?
http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/124
<raphael> ACTION-124?
<trackbot> ACTION-124 -- Felix Sasaki to check - everybody responsible for a format: add a column describing syntactic information ("data types", see cable lab column "Type") to his table -- due 2009-06-16 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/124
Daniel: action on Felix, what is the status?
<fsasaki> felix: pending, please give me one more week
action 134, 135 149 are on David, not on the call
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - 134,
http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/155
ACTION 155?
<trackbot> Sorry, bad ACTION syntax
ACTION-155?
<trackbot> ACTION-155 -- Chris Poppe to and co-editors (wonsuk, florian, victor, werner) to come up for a proposal for a return type for all properties, i.e. structured or unstructured? -- due 2009-09-22 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/155
Chris: to be left open until we have a draft version of the document, preliminary info sent to the list
Tobias is not on the call for the next action, so no update
Chris: pb about how to identify
an author or contributor
... send email to JP Evain to see how it is done at EBU
... second pb: representing date in WebIDL
... should contact them to have satisfactory
representation
<scribe> ACTION: Chris to send email about representing date in WebIDL [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/10/06-mediaann-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-157 - Send email about representing date in WebIDL [on Chris Poppe - due 2009-10-13].
Daniel: Wonsuk sent a draft to the mailing list, was not taking these problems into account
<daniel> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2009Oct/0005.html
Daniel: Werner, Raphael, any comment?
Raphael: had some exchange about these properties on the mailing list
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2009Oct/0005.html
scribe: the problem is that these
properties are not defined
... the opinion and clarification might be only Werner's
opinion
<wbailer> it was also pointed out that they are in the mapping table, but not in the ontology document
scribe: the question is to be sure that this is the group's opinion
<pchampin> are those properties described in the Ontology draft ?
<pchampin> I think they are only in the mapping table...
even in the mapping table, the types are not fully defined yet
<pchampin> +1 Raphael
I think that it would be a good idea to have a look at all the properties and define their meaning
<wbailer> +1
Chris: we can update the API
document and add there the definitions
... and if people disagree with this in the group, comments
should be sent on the mailing list
Pchampin: I think that the properties should be defined in the Ontology document
<pchampin> yes, the definition should appear in the ontology doc :)
+1
<wonsuk> +1
<wbailer> +1
<fsasaki> +1
pchampin: so we need an update of the ontology document
<Chris> I agree, the current definitions in the API document are copy-paste of the ontology document anyway
+1
<Chris> who is going to update the ontology document?
Raphael: time to wrap up the discussion on the mailing list and update the ontology doc accordingly
<Chris> +1
Editors can check out together who would update the document, possible candidates are Wonsuk, Veronique, Tobias, and maybe Werner: people who have access to cvs of the document
<Chris> +q
Wonsuk: updated the draft based on everybody's comments and contributions
<daniel> http://dev.w3.org/2008/video/mediaann/mediaont-api-1.0/mediaont-api-1.0.html
Wonsuk: but does not know when it is appropriate to go for recommendation with this document
<raphael> I suggest to get internal reviews of the document before any publication
Wonsuk: maybe next thursday is a good moment to have integrated the last comments and go for publication
Daniel: should publish this week or next
<raphael> Process is: a resolution should be taken during a telecon ... where the group agrees to publish
Daniel: Thierry said that we
should publish the original draft asap
... it was due last week
Chris: agree with what Raphael
wrote on IRC
... try to finish the document for next telecon
... document is not finished yet, should make a less drafty
version and we should vote to publish it
Raphael: it is mandatory to have a vote on the telecon, recorded on the minutes to publish a document
<Chris> We will try finishing it and send it this week, monday latest
Daniel: agree, we need more
reviews and a vote, but going only through mailing list is not
enough
... asking for volunteers to review the draft
<pchampin> I just printed it. I'll send a detailed review by thursday :)
Daniel: who is willing to take an action to review the API document for next week?
Chris: agreed that this would be more efficient to update the doc, up to now only minor feedback
<pchampin> make it an action to me :)
<wbailer> I can send a review until Friday morning
<scribe> ACTION: pchampin to review the API document [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/10/06-mediaann-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-158 - Review the API document [on Pierre-Antoine Champin - due 2009-10-13].
<scribe> ACTION: Werner to send review of the API document [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/10/06-mediaann-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-159 - Send review of the API document [on Werner Bailer - due 2009-10-13].
<scribe> ACTION: Daniel to send an email to the list to get more feedback and reviews for the API document [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/10/06-mediaann-minutes.html#action04]
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - Daniel
<scribe> ACTION: daniel to send an email to the list to get more feedback and reviews for the API document [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/10/06-mediaann-minutes.html#action05]
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - daniel
<pchampin> I'm still not sure
<raphael> trackbot, status
Daniel: who is attending the usability meeting before the TPAC?
Wonsuk: will attend
Daniel: Dave said that it would be interesting for MAWG, in an interaction perspective
Daniel will send a detailed program on the list
<fsasaki> bye
<scribe> ACTION: Soohong Daniel to send an email to the list to get more feedback and reviews for the API document [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/10/06-mediaann-minutes.html#action06]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-160 - Daniel to send an email to the list to get more feedback and reviews for the API document [on Soohong Daniel Park - due 2009-10-13].
<raphael> [meeting adjourned]
<wbailer> bye
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