<ericP> i johnM

<johnM> hi eric

<ericP> can't join you today -- kayaking. will read back here later

<johnM> +1.847.832.aaaa is nalbarr

<johnM> Hi Andrew

<agibson> Hi John

<johnM> Hey eric, are you afloat somewhere on some Class III rapids?

<johnM> Narciso, can you throw up a Gotomeeting so we can look at each others' TBC screens

i can scribe... if people want

[johnm] intro and agenda

[mscottm]. revisit aida and other previous work

<scribe> ... new servers and environment coming (alternative to amazon cloud options)

UNKNOWN_SPEAKER: 2 areas to look at: 1) snomed ct queries (broken?), 2) advancing go / skos efforts

[agibson] ... update on go / skos efforts

scribe: also meta data ... rdf store integration
... add foaf and knowledge provenance support...
... query gene ontology with historical context / versioning

[mscottm] belgium parties can do ontological queries

scribe: ncbo moving to rdf store... but bio portal uses flat file... and needs to some migration or rework
... iao (info architecture ontology)...
... info artifact ontology
... larry hunter involved

[jmadden] ... also barry smith, alan ruttenberg

<johnM> http://code.google.com/p/information-artifact-ontology

<johnM> http://code.google.com/p/information-artifact-ontology

<mscottm> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1892965&group_id=76834&atid=947684

<johnM> http://purl.obolibrary.org/obo/iao/ontology-metadata.owl

<johnM> here it is: http://purl.obolibrary.org/obo/iao.owl

[mscottm] importance of deferring judgment call by adding as much knowledge provenance / evidence and avoid black/white refute/reject

[agibson] more on bioportal

scribe: queries exposed by web services; putting rdf store is not seamless
... migrations to context specific views (using skos)... but expose owl, other formats
... agibson protege conference

[mscottm,jmadden] proposing a time change to thurs slot same time to gain more momentum

<johnM> ERICP::: PLEASE READ THIS:::::: we would like to change from Friday 10 am Eastern to Thursday 10 am Eastern, Can you help us?

<johnM> ERICP:::::Tuesday would also work

<johnM> ERICP::::::delete that, Tuesday doesn't work

[mscottm] gather sparql feature requests

<mscottm> http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-sparql-features-20090702/#Property_paths

scribe: 1) update (only supported in virtuoso)
... 2) property paths (or chaining)

#2) require running pellet (pre-classify)...

#2) can emulate reasoning

<mscottm> thanks for scribing Narciso!

np...

can someone help with the magic to create the minutes?

i always forgot the commmands

[agibson] propose to capture knowledge in research paper

[jmadden] has some snomed ct data in sql server? and want to d2rq

[mscottm] use eric p's rdf store with REST based interface

<mscottm> https://wiki.nbic.nl/index.php/BioWiseInformationManagement2009

<mscottm> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SWObjects

scribe: helen chen/eric p... good security/role based permission, etc.

[jmadden] it is raj dash's sql server

<mscottm> https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/swobjects/index.php?title=Main_Page

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