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<trackbot> Date: 17 September 2009
<itpastorn> Skype 2.1 beta did not work well for me. back on 2.0 for Linux. Hoping it will work OK.
<itpastorn> Lars Gunther is P4
<chrisdavidmills> Ok, I'm here too ;-)
<sfegette> me too- sorry to be late :0
<chrisdavidmills> This is about the 3rd time I've ever used IRC - it feels like a white-knuckle ride....kinda ;-)
<chrisdavidmills> yup, 0161...it's the code for Manchester UK
<scribe> ScribeNick: gsims
<scribe> chair: Steph Troeh
sniffles: Thank you for everyone
for a wonderful job on this first draft!!!
... Doug, do you have a deadline for when we should have the next draft of the white paper?
doug: We need to flesh out the
business plan questions if possible before the retreat. No hard
deadline, but if we could have some info, that would be
... management retreat is Sept 27-29
gsims: suggest that we need to clarify the vision and strategic initiatives first. then we can work on the business plan. i propose we not attempt to do the business plan in the next 2 weeks.
doug: what w3m would find valuable is some general answers to how OWEA would fit into W3C. See questions posted on 9/15/2009.
<scribe> ACTION: gsims respond to mauro's questions via email [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/09/17-owea-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-12 - Respond to mauro's questions via email [on Glenda Sims - due 2009-09-24].
<scribe> ACTION: gsims set up telcon with Mauro, John, Doug [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/09/17-owea-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-13 - Set up telcon with Mauro, John, Doug [on Glenda Sims - due 2009-09-24].
mark: important to know the audience and their questions when writing this white paper
doug: web science will mean WSRI and advanced degree
chrisdavidmills: prefer School of Web over Web Science
<chrisdavidmills> or "web design and development"
<shepazu> ACTION: shepazu to identify particular interests of various decision makers [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/09/17-owea-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-14 - Identify particular interests of various decision makers [on Doug Schepers - due 2009-09-24].
steph: it would be nice to know a timeline for when we need to have a final white paper
doug: w3m meets every week...so
the timing has to do with how quickly OWEA can/wants to
... consider academic year timing
mark: I suggest we proceed
cautiously. we only get to do this once.
... suggest that using OWEA is more incompassing than interact
... case in point, we may need to include Adobe
... we could use interact as a starting point, but it doesn't include all the players
steph: interact is a living thing...it is not fixed
steph: interact is the framework
chrisdavidmills: same with
... from a marketing standpoint, InterAct is more marketable than OWEA
... but we shouldn't just use InterAct as the face of the curriculum
... Open Web Curriculum: InterAct
<ben_friedman> it was recorded, so we can rewind later :-)
<shepazu> (we don't need to use the term "OWEA" when we come to w3c.. there are plenty of better names we could develop)
itpastorn: core content under OWEA brand
<ben_friedman> FYI: Ben owns a branding company...might be able to get some "muscle" for naming, identity, positioning, manifesto development, etc. when time is right
<shepazu> it's worth noting that W3C is a Consortium of industry players, as well as a sort of "public service"
itpastorn: additional content could be under InterAct
sniffles: InterAct framework was designed for all of this
chrisdavidmills: the InterAct framework is well fit for this. we can keep it on the interact site for now. and we can move it later if we need to
virginia: in my mind, InterAct is the educational arm of this effort
virginia: and owea the business alliance, contacts, industry connections (a business unit)
sniffles: interact is the flag and owea is the arm waving it
gsims: interact is the curriculum. outreach would fit under business unit
<shepazu> (ben_friedman, good to note :) )
dave: (speaking from his higher ed teaching experience) make it super simple for faculty to adopt
<shepazu> slide decks, demos...
dave: important to have well defined curriculum that is easy to adopt
chrisdavidmills: I agree with you
mark: i agree wholeheartedly. we need to be aware we are presenting this at more than one level: hs, community college, university
sniffles: hard to know what goes in what level. so we are laying out the pieces. then we can have teachers help us share their lesson plans...that then becomes a resource to the next person.
gsims: interact as the framework:
course / competencies
... then use creative commons as a place for any instructor to share content
chrisdavidmills: there will always be people who want you to add more to it...to the point that they want you to come teach it for them.
<scribe> ACTION: gsims share ideas with aarronw about need for levels (hs, cc, uni) and perhaps a creativecommons solution for now [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/09/17-owea-minutes.html#action04]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-15 - Share ideas with aarronw about need for levels (hs, cc, uni) and perhaps a creativecommons solution for now [on Glenda Sims - due 2009-09-24].
steph: InterAct: Open Web Curriculum Framework
chrisdavidmills: do we need the word "open"?
<dave> Web Curriculum Framework ++
InterAct: Web Curriculum Framework
<sniffles> Bear Web Curriculum? Bare Web Curriculum?
<chrisdavidmills> Open Beer Curriculum
<shepazu> "open web" is soooooooo 2009, anyway
<chrisdavidmills> or the UK version - Warm Beer Curriculum
<scribe> ACTION: gsims create a discussion page for naming the curriculum effort (InterAct: Web Curriculum Framework) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/09/17-owea-minutes.html#action05]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-16 - Create a discussion page for naming the curriculum effort (InterAct: Web Curriculum Framework) [on Glenda Sims - due 2009-09-24].
<virginia> Dang. We'll miss you.
steph: she needs to step back from OWEA and have a sabbatical
<ben_friedman> hip hip
<ben_friedman> hooray (for steph)
<MarkDuBois> you will be missed. you brought a solid business perspective to our group
<shepazu> I hope steph will recharge her batteries and be back soon
<sfegette> have fun, steph! :D
steph wears size 46 shoes
<shepazu> chairing shoes, that is
<sniffles> thanks everyone :)
<dave> wednesday is good for me
<scribe> ACTION: gsims reschedule regular meetings for wednesdays (every other) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/09/17-owea-minutes.html#action06]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-17 - Reschedule regular meetings for wednesdays (every other) [on Glenda Sims - due 2009-09-24].
<shepazu> trackbot, end telcon
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