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<glazou> bradk: np
<glazou> nope
<glazou> they were no fees last year
<glazou> that's the 1st time
<sylvaing> and it's per day, which is an interesting model
<sylvaing> and probably a huge pain to track
<sylvaing> if they can
<glazou> ScribeNick: TabAtkins
<dbaron> sorry
<glazou> np that happens
<dbaron> I can't figure out why it wasn't muted
<dbaron> ok, I thought I found the mute but I clearly didn't
glazou: TPAC's early reg ends
soon, fee raised from $50 to $75
... What to do with Beijing profile? Make note about it or drop
it?
... Requests fantasai to write up minutes from last week.
<dbaron> is fantasai aacc or P33?
<glazou> P33
<glazou> aacc is Cesar
Bert: wants to discuss exactly what the containing block is for a run-in.
glazou: Hakon wants to defer 2nd item (floats in multicol) until next week.
<fantasai> http://www.w3.org/2009/09/02-CSS-irc -- unformatted minutes from last week
<fantasai> I'll send the minutes out soon
glazou: Hyatt's not around, so defer first item (gradients) until later
<fantasai> Beijing profile is waiting on Selectors
<dbaron> I think we should continue planning to advance css-beijing on rec track
fantasai: role of CSS Beijing is
to describe the state of CSS at the time.
... waiting on Selectors to enter CR before Beijing can enter
CR.
glazou: Any other opinions about what to do with it?
<dbaron> myakura, I think MQ should be in the next one
<glazou> sylvaing
fantasai: it's useful to people
who don't track us closely, and want to know what's
useful/usable right now.
... Beijing says "these are the specs we consider to be stable
and active, and should be considered "part of CSS" right
now"
<sylvaing> me again :)
<ChrisL> Beijing CSS Technologies Development Co., Ltd.is a high-tech and leading company in the field of electronic article surveillance system
glazou: I've never seen anyone talking about Beijing outside of the WG.
<ChrisL> http://eas-world.en.alibaba.com/
sylvaing: Who is using it? How do they find it?
fantasai: Validators are using it. The website can be confusing, but it's still useful.
<glazou> lol sylvaing
Fantasai: The current work website lists all sorts of things that may not be actually useful CSS right now for authors, Beijing provides a useful service to authors.
<sylvaing> yes
<dbaron> We could also rename it to "CSS Snapshot 2010" or whatever once we determine what the correct year is :-)
sylvaing: As long as authors will find it useful, I'm okay with it.
glazou: What do we do with the current document?
Bert: It's useful as a CR. I want
to point people to it.
... At the moment it's just a Working Draft, and causing
confusion with all the other WDs we ahve.
<sylvaing> sylvaing: ...but if it is aimed at authors, the latter need to be able to get to it and find it easily
fantasai: I can't move it to CR
until Selectors moves. I'd love to move it, but selectors is
blocking.
... Let's deal with Selectors LC so we can move it.
... I need a full week to address all LC comments and get them
formatted/published
glazou: Defer that, waiting on fantasai to address Selectors comments
<dbaron> direction of what?
glazou: next item from Bert! (containing block for run-ins) Suggest send an email to www-style
Bert: Sure. I can point out options, but am not sure which direction to go in.
glazou: Give people a week or so
to think about it on the list.
... Any further CSS 2.1 issues to discuss. don't think we had
anything left from last week?
fantasai: Don't believe anything off to pthe top of my head is ready for discussion.
glazou: TPAC - we shoudl start collecting agenda items
<ChrisL> I will attend TPAC
glazou: I'd like to know how many people are coming. Send attendance/regrets asap, don't forgot to book flights and hotels.
<anne> FWIW, moving the snapshot to CR is possible even if Selectors is LC
glazou: CSS Variables - we need
Hyatt, so let's not discuss, but at least get it minuted.
... Proposal from Hyatt and me in Webkit, another proposal from
fantasai
<anne> The normative reference problem arises at PR, not CR, and even there you could in theory ignore it if you have good reasons.
glazou: It's a top question from
designers. I want a decision to either move forward or just
drop it.
... it seems like we just stopped
Bert: I want it dropped; haven't changed my opinion
glazou: I'll drop Hyatt an email
to get him in next week.
... That's it. Short call. See you next week.
<fantasai> TabAtkins: it's okay, it takes awhile to recognize voices over the phone
<glazou> TabAtkins: np, that happens everytime a new WG member is taking minutes for the 1st time
I'll have to be careful when writing up the minutes to pay attention to the corrections.
<glazou> but you said you were having problems with norwegian accents and in fact it's french accents ;-)
<glazou> or both :-D
Nah, I was previously having trouble telling Bert apart from some others.
<ChrisL> tab, do you know how to get html minutes made?
ChrisL nope, linky?
<dbaron> fantasai, your response to the background-clip thread saying "please shift this discussion to www-style" is the only message in the thread not on www-style
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