WAI-AGE Task Force

12 August 2009



michael, andrew, darren, jack, helle, william
shadi, suzette, alan


Summer meeting plans

<andrew> http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35532/tpac2009/

Andrew: please update if you will attend the TPAC in November 2009 in California

<andrew> http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/wai-age/teleconf-plans.html

Andrew: please check your upcoming availability and advise me

How People with Disabilities Use the Web


Andrew: documents needs an update
... we need to add at least two more scenarios with older people

Andrew: identification of out-of-date technologies (assistive technologies and web technologies)

scenario 1 - http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/Drafts/PWD-Use-Web/Overview.html#shopper

Darren: "most newer sites the colors were controlled by style sheets " -> "most sites the colors were controlled by style sheets"
... this is commonplace technology now-days

jack: typo "When he first starting using the Web"

scenario 2 - http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/Drafts/PWD-Use-Web/Overview.html#reporter

Andrew: we have to verify if the conflict between speech recognition and streaming audio is still realistic
... asks about the access key. shall we change this?

Michael: we should change access keys example maybe to web applications that can be used with the keyboard

helle: access keys are more often used in desktop applications
... access keys might also be a question of localisation (L12N)

Andrew: maybe jumping from Headline to headline might be part of the scenario

Helle: can ask somebody who uses speech recognition how he is working with that
... ... for a realistic scenario

Andrew: ... he is using an authoring tool with full keyboard support - ok?

All: that is fine

scenario 3 - http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/Drafts/PWD-Use-Web/Overview.html#onlinestudent

Jack / Andrew: refer to WCAG 2.0

Darren / Michael / Helle: should not mention SMIL but make it more general

michael: online media player supporting captions

Helle: maybe add a note about the advantage of multimedia with caption which can be used to translate the multimedia

scenario 4 - http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/Drafts/PWD-Use-Web/Overview.html#accountant

Helle:at the time this was originally written, written the tabbing was more important

Andrew: jumping to headings is more important now

Darren: mention heading structure

Michael: and skip links

Helle: seems a little bit outdated

<scribe> ACTION: Michael - will collect a few ideas for rewriting the section on the blind accountant and send it to the list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/08/12-waiage-minutes.html#action01]

Andrew: we should also double check with screen reader users if the information re browser synchronisation is realistic

scenario 5 - http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/Drafts/PWD-Use-Web/Overview.html#classroomstudent

Jack: "She was initially worried about reading load" -> "She was initially worried about her reading load"

Helle / Andrew: check about how "freeze the animated graphics" & "variety of searching strategies" are covered by WCAG 2.0

Michael: maybe we should replace the section "variety of searching strategies" with a more appropriate technique from WCAG 2.0

scenario 6 - http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/Drafts/PWD-Use-Web/Overview.html#retiree

Michael: assistive technologies (screen magnifiers) are not widely used among older people. maybe we can change that to resizable text without overlapping, copping of text

Andrew: we can introduce new scenarios, e.g. an older worker

scenario 7 - http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/Drafts/PWD-Use-Web/Overview.html#supermarketassistant

Andrew: we should check again the "different search options" how they might refer to WCAG 2.0

Helle: scenario was built on a real person

Jack: why is it emphasized here that the site was more usable? that is also true for other scenarios

All: maybe this could be drawn out at the start of end of the scenarios

scenario 8 - http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/Drafts/PWD-Use-Web/Overview.html#teenager

Andrew: has difficulty with this scenario
... its not realistic for teenagers in UK & Australia - but might be in some cultures

<andrew> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article6703399.ece

Jack: maybe she could use a mobile device

Darren: maybe we could include online communities

Andrew: we maybe have to rethink this scenario or introduce another scenario

Michael: online entertainment is an important topic

Helle: maybe the student with dyslexia might use online communities

Andrew: please read through this document and send ideas and thoughts to the list
... please update the TPAC questionnaire (and put the date in the comments when you have updated it)

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: Michael - will collect a few ideas for rewriting the section on the blind accountant and send it to the list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/08/12-waiage-minutes.html#action01]
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