W3C

Mobile Web Initiative Test Suites Working Group Teleconference

04 Aug 2009

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
Wilhelm, Carmelo, Dom, Dmitri, Kai, Marcos
Regrets
Chair
Wilhelm
Scribe
dom

Contents


Widgets testing

ACTION-52?

<trackbot> ACTION-52 -- Wilhelm Joys Andersen to draft a blog post on SPARTAN -- due 2009-05-26 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/52

Wilhelm: still pending approval

ACTION-2?

<trackbot> ACTION-2 -- Kai Hendry to continue integrating his tests WTF -- due 2009-05-01 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/2

close ACTION-2

<trackbot> ACTION-2 Continue integrating his tests WTF closed

Kai: regarding WTF, I've been talking with Robert and I have helped out with instructions on how to install it on Linux
... I've filed an issue about making it easier to contributing tests
... e.g. through a Web form
... Robert thought this was a good idea

ACTION-62?

<trackbot> ACTION-62 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to send feedback on the contribution guide for widgets test suites -- due 2009-07-07 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/62

<dom_scribe> Dom's comments

Kai: Marcos has probably stuff to say about this as well
... I'll follow-up

Marcos: Kai and I have been discussing his framework
... I've been looking at what would be needed to build the tests properly - don't think we need that much
... now that the test assertions have been extracted out
... With regard to the contribution guide, we'll link it from the testing area and the spec

/2006/waf/widgets/tests/guide.html

<Marcos> http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets/Overview_TSE.html#testable-assertions

<hendry> so the one place is proposed as <http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets/Overview_TSE.html> ?

Kai: I think it's best to keep everything in one place

Marcos: I'll be integrating all the relevant materials (contribution guide, test plan) into a single document

<scribe> ACTION: Dom to report back on Marcos' progress wrt integration of test documentation materials [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/08/04-mwts-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-71 - Report back on Marcos' progress wrt integration of test documentation materials [on Dominique Hazaël-Massieux - due 2009-08-11].

ACTION-45 closed

<trackbot> ACTION-45 Propose a plan for getting contributions from community closed

ACTION-66 closed

<trackbot> ACTION-66 Update the test plan with the latest assertions closed

ACTION-63 closed

<trackbot> ACTION-63 Add testing strategies to widget test contrbutions guide closed

ACTION-62 closed

<trackbot> ACTION-62 Send feedback on the contribution guide for widgets test suites closed

ACTION-67?

<trackbot> ACTION-67 -- Kai Hendry to work with Marcos on developing templates and contributions guide -- due 2009-08-04 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/67

Marcos: will do that later this week

ACTION-70 closed

<trackbot> ACTION-70 Draft blog post about Dusseldorf widget testing closed

<dom_scribe> invitation to widgets testing event in blog

WCTMB2

ACTION-68?

<trackbot> ACTION-68 -- Kai Hendry to submit proposals for WCTMB2 -- due 2009-08-04 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/68

<dom_scribe> Kai's suggestions for WCTMB2

Kai: have we considered making the test a widget?
... we could tie in widgets-related tests

Dom: doing it only as a widget seems a bit too restrictive to me
... given that there are no runtime widget engine implementing the W3C spec

Kai: there are a few, but probably not very compliant
... I also noted to integrate tests from AppCache
... and wondered if we could take some tests from ACID3

Wilhelm: I'm thinking along the same lines, but with different tests
... testing for features rather than bugs

Kai: if we're testing features - I'm not sure how forward-looking we should be
... I've also proposed an audio test

Wilhelm: audio test sounds good

Dom: not sure we can define how forward-looking we should target; let's see as we go

Wilhelm: could you turn your proposals into actual code?

Kai: sure

<scribe> ACTION: Kai to propose appcache and audio test [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/08/04-mwts-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-72 - Propose appcache and audio test [on Kai Hendry - due 2009-08-11].

<scribe> ACTION: Wilhelm to create test cases for WCTMB2 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/08/04-mwts-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-73 - Create test cases for WCTMB2 [on Wilhelm Joys Andersen - due 2009-08-11].

Wilhelm: we basically a bunch of scripts that say yes or no

ACTION-69?

<trackbot> ACTION-69 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to review WCTMB2 proposal -- due 2009-08-04 -- PENDINGREVIEW

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/69

<dom_scribe> Dom's comments on WCTMB2

Dom: in addition to my comments in my email, we should probably make our test run asynchronously

Kai: that's usually quite painful in Javascript

Dom: isn't it just a matter of using callback functions?

Wilhelm: I was thinking of running them in sequence

Dom: do we need a proposed API?

Wilhelm: I'll make a proposal

<scribe> ACTION: Wilhelm to propose an API for the tests in WCTMB2 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/08/04-mwts-minutes.html#action04]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-74 - Propose an API for the tests in WCTMB2 [on Wilhelm Joys Andersen - due 2009-08-11].

<scribe> ACTION: Dom to propose tests for WCTMB2 - due 2009-09-08 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/08/04-mwts-minutes.html#action05]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-75 - propose tests for WCTMB2 [on Dominique Hazaël-Massieux - due 2009-09-08].

OMA

ACTION-14?

<trackbot> ACTION-14 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to look back at OMA situation and report -- due 2009-03-17 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/14

<dom_scribe> Update's from OMA on XHTML MP test suite

ACTION-21?

<trackbot> ACTION-21 -- Wilhelm Joys Andersen to send Opera's feedback on OMA test suites -- due 2009-03-17 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/21

Wilhelm: still pending

Next meeting

RESOLUTION: Next meeting will be September 1st

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: Dom to propose tests for WCTMB2 - due 2009-09-08 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/08/04-mwts-minutes.html#action05]
[NEW] ACTION: Dom to report back on Marcos' progress wrt integration of test documentation materials [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/08/04-mwts-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: Kai to propose appcache and audio test [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/08/04-mwts-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: Wilhelm to create test cases for WCTMB2 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/08/04-mwts-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: Wilhelm to propose an API for the tests in WCTMB2 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/08/04-mwts-minutes.html#action04]
 
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