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<scribe> scribenick: ericP
vipul: Rachel gave talk at AMIA -- big success
... also submitted for anual symposium and @@1
... Helen is sketching out patient privacy
... need to coord with John Madden
... patient privacy crosses task forces
ericP: we were supposed to have sent an abstract a month before
Susie: and other tracks, like in-use?
ericP: in-use seemed to be (according to the chair) more deployed stuff
vipul: i expect security/policy will get a life of its own
... (just by the size of it)
... i would be participating from the payer perspective
... key issue is rallying the momentum
susie: so ericP's techy presentation during the main call was related
vipul: like with COI, we need to give ericP real use cases to give them more impact
susie: CIO of lilly is interested, but timing was off for the call
... he was meant to be writing use cases, worth prodding him
mscottm: COI has a great demo for pharma
vipul: it would be great to make sure everyone can use the demo
mscottm: i've been focusing my 1.5min demo on AIDA, but should demo COI
... any chance of getting an intrest group note out?
vipul: good point, with feedback, questions from the audience...
<scribe> ACTION: Susie to forward relevent invites to adrian sechum [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/07/06-hclschairs-minutes.html#action01]
John: SKOS on a bit of a haietus (SP?)
... but progress with mscottm which i haven't seen
... interest and progress on privacy front
... we have permission to reveal some of our patient pathology data via d2r if we have appropriate protection
... have to install ericP's software and hook it up to our database
... did a poster at AMIA spring meeting in Orlando
... big emphasis on GRDDL and transforms
... attendance was thin -- only got attention from Peter Elkin
... Rachel said that kent spackman and ohter ihdo folks are releasing an OWL-ized version of SNOMED
ericP: would be good to connect Peter @@2 (Kaiser) with IHDO initiative
Susie: a paper with pro's (above) and con's (from JohnM) would be good
JohnM: HHS secretary asked a bunch of us to write a use cases in pathology white paper
... Mary Kennedy and I wrote up the paper. in editing cycle now
... tried to emphasize the benefits of common identifiers in health care field, specifically IRIs
... + chapter on SNOMED and OWL
... + chapter on higher levels of interop
... can consider it a contribution of W3C
mscottm: at f2f, harold solbrig showed interest
JohnM: expect he's really busy, need to chase him down
mscottm: randy raymond right called once
<mscottm> http://ii4sm.com/
<mscottm> http://hcls.deri.org/coi/demo/
mscottm: if folks remember other folks like these, let's put them in a list
<mscottm> DILS
kei: Data Integration in Life Science paper submitted
<mscottm> Data Integration in the Life Sciences
kei: collab between LODD and BioRDF task forces
... submitted a poster
... ania, june, matthias have been working on this poster
... converted the @@3 database into RDF
... june will release it when it's clean
... couple weeks before the deadline arrives
<mscottm> huajun chen
kei: hujun chen's keen to integrate western med data and easter herbal
... hard for him to participate (time zone) - may need to accomodate
... </update on TCM>
... considering extension of Query Federation
... have a paper BioInformatics - editor is working on it
... don't have final pub date
... could continue with more data
... discussed image data, microarray data...
... can also consider upper-level meta-data to guide query federation
... in our last attempted, we hard-coded the query plan
... so extensions could use meta-data to generate that plan automatically
... can extend AIDA or FeDeRate to use this meta-data
mscottm: do you see opportunites for an interest group note?
kei: perhaps in terms of query federation
ericP: i expet that most fora don't want papers to have dual-submission so may have to choose between IG note vs. peer-reviewed paper
mscottm: hclskb note is a counter-example
Susie: workign with jun and anya to add TCM data source
... also working on Slider
... have the joint poster with BioRDF at DILS
... working on a paper for iTriplify challenge
... Bosse and I [Susie] working on the use case
... e.g. what drug targets do these herbs work against vs. conventional medication
... e.g. comparing side-effects
UNKNOWN_SPEAKER: goal was to create this high-level domain which one could plug data into so we could ask questions
... based upon the questions, we have 113 entities that could be in the ont -- weeding out duplications and subtle overlaps (e.g. compound vs. entire drug)
... we're defining used cases in Xgenomics
... once we select a use case, we'll roll out a demo based on those use cases
... so we're likely to want to include some pharma data
timC: lots of side collaborations
... paolo and alex will be posting IG notes for SWAN/SIOC integration
... expect to talk with Simon Buckingham Shum about it
... now discussing the semantics of annotation
... e.g. asserted links to terminology
... need to be open and available in RDF as well
... working with mary ann martone on aligning with the model
mscottm: touches with matthias's work on aTags
... other tasks where annotation is the next step
... want to create different provenance models when you create the annotation
... e.g. who said it when
timC: would be interested to work on this as a joint task
... depends on where matthias wants to work on aTags
... i think matthias is cautious about getting to theoretical
mscottm: need to find out if matthias is intersted in the non-manual annotations (or stuff supplied by wikiprofessional)
kei: can we integrate this with federation
timC: our core job is to get the model right
... then folks can apply what ever processing they want
... my interest is semi-automatic annotation of web content
mscottm: one unifying app would be:
... .. create an aTag
... .. federate that with the SWAN data so you can view it as an assertion by the asserter
timC: i think there a few intersting apps
... would like to create an uber-task around september
Susie: 2-6 Nov in Santa Clara
... we meet 2-3 Nov
... need agendas from the task force leads
... captured the main ideas for future work on the wiki (6 bullets)