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<scribe> scribe: John

Charlie: {Discusses expense report sample}

<scribe> scribenick: John_Boyer

Charlie: sample gives people idea of relevance of recognizing ODF markup directly in the web browser
... rules language in ODF that generates something like table of contents based on markup in body of document
... conditional rules for content like only show expenses if you have them
... as prototype, would like to put xf:group in the text content to do relevance on the ODF content.
... Presumably you'd want something to only show in table of contents if it was relevant
... So, would show second order ODF language constructs consuming relevance information applied to other parts of document
... Explains that some of the content like "Actual Expenses" will have draw:control elements to expose actual results like "You claimed $200" and possibly even date ranges over which the claimed expenses were made
... An ODF-level calculation could make "clip-level" calculations, but not sure if it should go at the view level or if it would sink down into the XForms application level.

John: Think that it would likely be either a constraint or an attenuating calculate to express difference between "expense you had" versus "expense reimbursable according to policy"

Charlie: Is there some other calculations that could reasonably be done at the ODF presentation layer?

John: There are lots of calculated results that are for presentation only but aren't really needed by the back-end system.
... the expense report total is for the user and the client-side total calculation would not be needed or even necessarily trusted by the server side app

Charlie: whole document goes back to the server side

John: yes, but document is archived, and data is extracted to drive back end transaction. Data needs only the inputs, not the calculated totals

Charlie: This app including svg, smil, odf shows an emerging set of vocabularies that could be dealt with on the web using a ubiquity approach