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SVG Interest Group Teleconference

25 Jun 2009

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Attendees

Present
+1.312.228.aaaa, +966aabb, Rob, gwadej, Jeff, Shepazu.a, +1.253.223.aacc, DavePorter, Shepazu, +03174349aadd
Regrets
Chair
SV_MEETING_CHAIR
Scribe
DavePorter

Contents


 

 

<trackbot> Date: 25 June 2009

<gwadej> I tried the conference number, it picked up, announced the bridge, transferred me to another number and hung up.

<JeffSchiller> hello all: i get "the conference is restricted at this time"

<Rob_Russell> yeah, i get the same...

phone gave me a busy signal

<gwadej> A second attempt got the 'conference is restricted' message

<JeffSchiller> i tried shepazu's mobile # and got his voicemail immediately

<JeffSchiller> how are people with skype?

<gwadej> okay for me.

Not on it, never used it

<JeffSchiller> ok, that's a non-starter then :)

Don't let me hold you back

<JeffSchiller> we may have to reschedule - let's give shepazu a few more minutes

<shepazu> hey

<JeffSchiller> hey doug

<Rob_Russell> i'm the 966 number

Same phone #? I get a busy signal

I'll try again

<shepazu> be there momentarily

<shepazu> /me Zakim, call shepazu

Dave Porter volunteers to be the scribe

Want to get the rhythm of the calls going again

Andreas and Ruud not able to make it

SVGOpen topic:

<shepazu> scribenick: DavePorter

Rob: looking into computer history museum, will be there for the dinner

It's reserved but not paid for

Andreas said the price was OK and everyone agreed

John F. space for workshops, a place at IBM, have directionss to physical location

<stelt> Jon F. , not John F.

Submission guidelines, when someone submits, it has to be in DocBook format

Andreas providing additional help for people's familiarity with it

Docbook is a pain but we're trying to be diplomatic about the need for it, and the benefits

We should bring up a discussion about DocBook separately.

Alternative: put a form on the web. If you're trying to get at fielded data, that might work better

The information we need would be more reliably placed and accessible.

Maybe we coudl get DocBook out of Open Office.

The minutes from the SVGOpen call are up, let's deal with the issues separately, guidelines are being worked on.

Review wise: there are two new abstracts there, unassigned reviews.

Andreas needs to assign these out

By end of month all reviews need to be done

Other SVG Open issues??

<Rob_Russell> http://www.schepers.cc/svgopen/wiki/index.php?title=Minutes--20090622

Thanks doug

Do we have everything covered on the insurance issue? Question goes to Google.

"Event insurance"

Like, $60 a day

THe insurance companies treat this as a routine thing

That was Wade speaking

Sponsor discussions still going on

Still in IBM financial department, Charles from Opera asked for an invoice

face to face for SVG-IG

Stelt talked about it

Want a working session to deal with issues

We should be planning a date and later on a place

What are some of the items or issues needing work?

Stelt: planet SVG,

Since we're a small group ,we could fairly easily grab a room somewhere

Jeff thinks needs a little more discussion on scope and items

Stelt to mail out ideas & invitatations to mai llist

Planet SVG site

Rob and Jeff have been pretty busy

Hoping to get back to working on,

There's a couple tools needing integration into site

Rob: Floating the idea of a site redesign

If there was a visual refresh, are there any objections?

Stelt: have a lot of activity up front, no click.

Let's put a flash intro there--(Just a joke)

<JeffSchiller> silverlight with flash fallback

Suggest make it work better for smaller type screens

Some recent research on this

Example: working from a Netbook

<stelt> mobiles are screwed?

The concern was heard

Thanks

It's been nice, there have been news items coming in. Also a lot of room in there to write guides.

Encourage putting together tutorials or how-to's, lets get more content

Painful: image hosting

Provide fallback images for SVG. SVG is preferred of course. But rasterized fallback is cool.

Might be worth trying to find someone in the Drupal community to help us out. As it is, Rob is the single point of connection

For the depth of what you need to know to operate on Planet SVG

Maybe should put a call out on SVG Developers

<HelderMagalhaes> (Hi everyone! :-) Sorry about being late. :-| I'll be listening on IRC only as I haven't been able to setup for the phone bridge during work hours yet.)

Thanks Helder!

Writing a drupal module: a tall order

Shelly Powers is a huge drupal fan, but she's not taking on more volunteer work

Maybe she could just give us some design advice, or use Drupal themes.

Will get in contact with some Drupal folks at Vodaphone

Oracle

Some of these large companies you might not think are into SVG, are signing up for the Open

It's so technical, it's hard to get "designers" to work on this stuff.

Upload SVG, rasterize it on the server, specify the size

As it is, this sort of thing is too complex, painful, and manual to create

Rob may have some modules that could be put in place to do this semi automatically

<stelt> Rob_Russell, do you think http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=hp&hl=en&js=n&u=http%3A%2F%2Fdrupaljam.nl%2Fprogramma-utrecht&sl=nl&tl=en&history_state0= is interesting?

<stelt> Rob_Russell, i could maybe go (though i would be sleeping half the time)

Some of these capabilities are common thru other sites, we could contribute back to the Drupal community

<scribe> ACTION: contact shelly powers [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/06/25-svgig-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - contact

<scribe> ACTION: Jeff contact shelly powers [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/06/25-svgig-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-22 - Contact shelly powers [on Jeff Schiller - due 2009-07-02].

<scribe> ACTION: Jeff Write down the workflow, [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/06/25-svgig-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-23 - Write down the workflow, [on Jeff Schiller - due 2009-07-02].

Ooops, created some extra actions

show and tell section

Write up some slides and send out

Describe what they are working on

Dave Porter volunteered to be a guinea pig

My "corporate" example

(It's a server-generated SVG data visualization)

WIth a bit of UI mixed in

On planet SVG: interviews with Inkscape developers, people making SVG tools

"Success stories"

How a tech really helped them out

At SVG Open, "force" people to describing their thing on Planet

Mechanics: how can you share slides or desktop

Google has a Powerpoint type tool/format

Can we send out Powerpoint?

You can view PPT in Open Office?

Yes

SVGMaker takes powerpoint and converts it to SVG

"Software Mechanics" in Australia

Webex & stuff like that,

It's supposed to be cross platform.

Adobe has something too.

Dave Porter will ask his boss if "Boeing" could host a webex, then you SVG IG folks join it.

We use Webex routinely here at Boeing, but I don't know how public that is

Screenshots might be enough

Does Powerpoint have any export formats?

15-20 minutes, Dave volunteered to do this in a couple weeks

Jeff working on getting a different time for the call

Seems like someone misses whatever time is picked.

Closing moments...

Microsoft, Google Webkit, collaborating on DOM3 events calls, next gen browsers will have a single unified keyboard model.

Events based on keyboards, the sequence of events, IME

Thanks Doug

Question for Rob: did you look at that utrecht URL?

Stelt could fit in his schedule, but he'd be sleepy

Talk offline

Looks well put together, quite a lot going on

Stelt: another thing: people going to SVG Open? Anyone bringing wife or girlfriend?

SVG WG sending all its minutes to the public list, hoping for more feedback that way

www.svg mailing list,

<JeffSchiller> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-svg/

<JeffSchiller> can someone publish the minutes?

Jeff, I would if I knew how

But I don't! :-(

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: contact shelly powers [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/06/25-svgig-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: Jeff contact shelly powers [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/06/25-svgig-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: Jeff Write down the workflow, [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/06/25-svgig-minutes.html#action03]
 
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