W3C

Evaluation and Repair Tools Working Group Teleconference

03 Jun 2009

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
Mike, Shadi, Johannes, CarlosI, CarlosV
Regrets
Chair
Shadi
Scribe
CarlosI

Contents


EARL 1.0 Schema comments

<shadi> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2009Jun/0004.html

<shadi> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2009Jun/0000

<shadi> http://xmlns.com/foaf/spec/#term_Document

SAZ: dc:document definition

CI: concerns about redefinition of other vocabularies properties

SAZ: it includes both "physical" and electronic documents
... we can take away the term "electronic"
... my proposal is to improve the wording taking care of not redifining the semantics

CV: why do we need the foaf:document?
... we can use Content classes

SAZ: Test Subject definitions are very generic

CV: the problem is the confusion between when to use Content and when to use Document

<shadi> PROPOSED RESOLUTION: (1) adopt wording FOAF about not distinguishing between physical and electronic documents, but highlighting the typical usage (2) respond to Diego that we do not agree that the definition of foaf:Document is too narrow (3) keep editor's note that ERT WG is still debating foaf:Document (4) continue assessing pros/cons of foaf:Document

<shadi> RESOLUTION: (1) adopt wording FOAF about not distinguishing between physical and electronic documents, but highlighting the typical usage (2) respond to Diego that we do not agree that the definition of foaf:Document is too narrow (3) keep editor's note that ERT WG is still debating foaf:Document (4) continue assessing pros/cons of foaf:Document

SAZ: adopt the dcmi-terms namespace

<shadi> RESOLUTION: adopt the DC namespace http://dublincore.org/documents/dcmi-terms/ in all specs

<cvelasco> Namespace: http://purl.org/dc/terms/

SAZ: need to recheck in all the specs
... have the same definitions for classes and instances

<shadi> RESOLUTION: rewrite the definition for OutcomeValue classes and instances to separate them semantically

SAZ: need to discuss more about the removal of the should requirements

<shadi> ACTION: shadi to look at ways for firming up the conformance section [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/06/03-er-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-98 - Look at ways for firming up the conformance section [on Shadi Abou-Zahra - due 2009-06-10].

SAZ: suggestions for changes to the RDF representation has been checked with Iván

<shadi> RESOLUTION: adopt OWL constructors for all our specs

SAZ: he agrees is a good solution

<cvelasco> <owl:Ontology>

<shadi> RESOLUTION: point to the ontology documents from the HTML

<shadi> <link href="http://xmlns.com/foaf/spec/index.rdf" rel="alternate"

<shadi> type="application/rdf+xml" />

<shadi> ACTION: cvelasco to send another approach (OWL) for including the ontology documents in HTML [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/06/03-er-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-99 - Send another approach (OWL) for including the ontology documents in HTML [on Carlos A. Velasco - due 2009-06-10].

<cvelasco> See http://www.w3.org/TR/swbp-vocab-pub/

SAZ: add a link to the RDF in the document

<shadi> [also add as an "alternate version" a link in the HTML to the RDF files]

EARL 1.0 Guide

<shadi> http://www.w3.org/2009/05/27-er-minutes#item01

SAZ: any comment on Pointers and Requirements?

no comments

SAZ: those documents are ready to go, please have a look at them

Content in RDF

<shadi> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2009May/0010

SAZ: SK, HTTP in RDF and Content in RDF priorities?

JK: the naming issues

<shadi> ContentInXML

<shadi> ContentAsXML

<shadi> http://www.w3.org/2009/05/20-er-minutes#item05

<shadi> ContentXML

<shadi> ExtensibleMarkupLanguageContent

<cvelasco> ... and adding "An"?

<shadi> DeclOfXML

MS: prefer the "as" option

CV: the problem is in the properties then

SAZ: do the name properties really need XML or are they more generic and well defined by the context?

<shadi> RESOLUTION: (1) most promising candidate for class names is ContentAsXML, ContentAsText, ContentAsBase64 (2) "LeadingMisc", "Rest", and "Standalone" do not need "XML" in the name (3) Johannes will start thread for XMLDecl and XMLEncoding

Next and future meetings

<shadi> next meeting: 10 June

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: cvelasco to send another approach (OWL) for including the ontology documents in HTML [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/06/03-er-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: shadi to look at ways for firming up the conformance section [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/06/03-er-minutes.html#action01]
 
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