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agenda is at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2009May/0070.html
minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/05/12-mediaann-minutes.html
approved
werner volunteers for the 2nd of june
TBD for next week
12: 00-13:00 UTC
http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/open
Werner: action-47 is ongoing
Felix; action-101 still pending
Véronique: action-102 postponed until next version of the document
<joakim> I think the question was to find out what are the different reltion types defined in DC?
Felix: to answer the question in action-103
<fsasaki> felix: dc:relation describes the relation of a resource to another resource
close action-103
<trackbot> ACTION-103 Daniel to ask Felix for the relationship in dc:relation closed
close action-106
<trackbot> ACTION-106 Editing team to come up with the initial Ontology document closed
close action-107
<trackbot> ACTION-107 Update the all excel format files according to the new initial MAWG attributes closed
close action-108
<trackbot> ACTION-108 Make a *call for comments* to the mailing list in terms of mapping table closed
<joakim> Dough promised to publish the UC on thr TR pages
close action-111
<trackbot> ACTION-111 Ping doug after use case document is updated closed
close action-112
<trackbot> ACTION-112 Inform Doug when the updates are ready closed
Joachim: sent update about the introduction of "Ontology for Media Entity" directly to Wonsuk
close action-113
<trackbot> ACTION-113 Review the introduction of Ontology for Media Entity 1.0 closed
close action-114
<trackbot> ACTION-114 Add a Wiki Page for Candidate Metadata elements to be added closed
close action-115
<trackbot> ACTION-115 Review of section 4 of the Ontology for Media Entity 1.0 document closed
Véronique: about action-116, terminology still has to be discussed but the action is closed
Véronique: add discussion on the agenda for the next meeting
action to Joachim put terminology discussion on the agenda for next telecon
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - to
action to Joakim put terminology discussion on the agenda for next telecon
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - to
<scribe> ACTION: joachim to put terminology discussion on the agenda for next telecon [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/05/19-mediaann-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - joachim
<joakim> joakim spells wth k :-)
<scribe> ACTION: joakim put terminology discussion on the agenda for next telecon [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/05/19-mediaann-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-118 - Put terminology discussion on the agenda for next telecon [on Joakim Söderberg - due 2009-05-26].
close action-116
<trackbot> ACTION-116 Change terminology (section 2.1 of the Ontology for Media Entity 1.0 document) in accordance with the initial draft of the fragment group (Review will be done by Veronique) closed
http://dev.w3.org/2008/video/mediaann/mediaont-1.0/mediaont-1.0.html
Wonsuk: still some fixing and editor comments to be taken into account
Véronique: looking good, but still some work to be done, especially in the Terminology section
Joakim: plan to publish the Ontology document before F2F
so we can start focus on the API during F2F
<scribe> ACTION: Felix to review the Ontology document [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/05/19-mediaann-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-119 - Review the Ontology document [on Felix Sasaki - due 2009-05-26].
<veroniqueM> if we have some more weeks to publish the Ontology document, we could take into account the fact that some formats are "in scope" but not in the mapping table
Joakim: we should set a time limit on the terminology discussion
<veroniqueM> and create a subsection of the "formats in scope" section
major issue: controversy about the word "entity"
Véronique: actually, the word "entity" is the only remaining problem. We could may be discuss it now.
need for a word unifying resource and representation
but entity is also used in HTTP (basically meaning "representation")
<joakim> Werner
Werner: need to get in sync with Media Fragment WG, for the sake of future readers
Pchampin: p.8 of RFC 2616 (HTTP) defines "resource", "entity" and "representation" - may be the Media Fragment WG is using them
<scribe> ACTION: daniel to submit our vocabulary to the Media Fragment WG for comments [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/05/19-mediaann-minutes.html#action04]
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - daniel
<spark3> spark3
<scribe> ACTION: spark3 to submit our vocabulary to the Media Fragment WG for comments [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/05/19-mediaann-minutes.html#action05]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-120 - Submit our vocabulary to the Media Fragment WG for comments [on Soohong Daniel Park - due 2009-05-26].
<veroniqueM> do you have a link for the ref of: p.8 of RFC 2616 (HTTP)
<veroniqueM> ?
http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2616.txt
Joakim: updates missing from LOM, FRDR
<joakim> LOM, , MIX, FRBR
<joakim> LOM, MIX, FRBR
<joakim> iTunes, QT
Tobias: about LOM, the challengers have not submitted anything yet
Joakim: will track the updates for the other missing formats
Daniel: sent a mail about ISAN to the list
proposes to bring more information at a next telecon
<wbailer> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/wiki/Candidate_Additional_Elements
Werner: Candidate Additional Elements wiki page (URL above)
<joakim> +1
Werner: should this be included in the draft?
Tobias: *profiles* could be used to include technical metadata without overloading the core of the ontology
<joakim> +q
Joakim: the Descriptive/Technical distinction is related to the resource/description dichotomy
Decriptive apply to the resource (general)
<joakim> thanx :-)
Technical apply to description: more specific but important as well
Werner: comments should be made in the wiki page, easier to track than only on the mailing list
<shepazu> did the time of this call change? it's listed as an hour later on the teleconference page?
rssagent, draft minutes
rssagent, make minutes
<shepazu> http://www.w3.org/Guide/1998/08/teleconference-calendar#s_3459
<shepazu> ok, I must have misread it somehow, sorry
no problem
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