<Victor_> Hello

<michael> hi all

<Holger> hi

<Danh> I've just dialed in

<Danh> Danh Le Phuoc, DERI, Ireland

<simon> lots of echo all around

<krp> yeah, lots of echo here too

<Victor_> yes, lots of echo

<simon> is someone talking?

<krzysztofjanowicz> hi

<krp> There wasn't actually a Betty on, was there? ;)

<AmitS> Let's select Scribe for next meeting also

<scribe> scribenick: cory

<scribe> scribe: Cory Henson

<Victor_> +q

John and Simon have added usecases to Wiki

<scribe> ACTION: add new page to wiki for usecases [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/05/12-ssn-minutes.html#action01]

<michael> actually I think John G. put some use cases on the state of the art page - at the bottom.

Francisco wants to know scope of usecases

<AmitS> +q AmitS

Holger: scope is capabilities of sensors and networks

<simon> Sorry - I will add links to use-cases - requires units/properties/quantity-type ontologies

<michael> yes from me too.

Francisco asks, should sensor semantics be linked to application semantics

amit_s, addition of domain ontologies will enable application semantics

amit_s, group should focus on domain-independent ontologies and upper level ontology for sensor domain

<michael> +q

<krp> +1 AmitS

all, usecases will focus on specific domains on interest

<michael> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Main_Page

<Victor_> ok, I undestand it better now

<AmitS> where is the link to the slides?

<krp> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/images/f/f4/W3CSSN-XG_Ontology.pdf

<krp> (bottom of main wiki page)

<AmitS> discussion point: there are two ways to think about including multiple ontologies

<simon> Do sensors measure only _physical_ qualities?

<AmitS> Why OWL-S when W3C has adoped SAWSDL?

<simon> What about sensor (process) _outputs_ - particularly important for systems

<AmitS> +q AmitS

<michael> +q

amit_s, should think about federated approach in addition to integration approach to ontology combination

<simon> +1 cory

<LuisBermudez> +q

<simon> +1 Luis - yes, at least that was the intention of O&M and SML

Luis, use SML and O&M as basis of generic sensor ontology

+q

<AmitS> +1 Luis, we will have to essentially build upon O&M (and SML)

<AmitS> i.e., be cosistent with such that syntactically it would be O&M and semantic extention can be done using what we do

<simon> O&M defines terms 'observedProperty', 'featureOfInterest', 'procedure', 'result'

<simon> O&M Part 2 (Sampling Features) defines 'sampled feature', 'related sampling feature' - these are v important in most real use-cases

cory and simon: need to include O&M concepts into sensor ontology

<AmitS> refere to http://www.w3.org/TR/sawsdl/ for model reference

<ktaylor2> +q

<ktaylor2> +q

<AmitS> as a way to associating semntics to any XML data (which all SWE messages are)

kerry, use of owl-s to model through services

<scribe> ACTION: kerry to present video mpeg annotation [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/05/12-ssn-minutes.html#action02]

<simon> I need to leave to join next meeting

<AmitS> any one wants to offer a short talk next time?

<LuisBermudez> luis

<scribe> ACTION:Luis to present next week [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/05/12-ssn-minutes.html#action03]

bye

<krzysztofjanowicz> bye

<LuisBermudez> bye

<michael> bye

<Danh> bye

<krp> thanks, bye

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