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shadi: thanks for the great work from WAI-AGE
<shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/demos/bad/draft/2009/
shadi: we need to refine a few things
... let me summarize the discussions from wai-age
... request to show clearly the difference between before and after version
... some things: annotations helped
<shadi> http://ericeggert.net/badtf-latest/index/index.html
shadi: people like the addition by eric
... the toggle switch is good (for accessable / inaccessible and
annotations)
... we need a metaphor for the on and off function
... we should have annotated pages link to other annotated pages
... annotations and highlights should not be an exausted list
... maybe a different color for the annotation, and different colors between
the before and after pages
... the icon of the annotation be a different color for before and after
aswell
wilco: all suggestions are very helpful
michael: there is no element to indicate
switching between different states accept checkbox
... someone proposed a button, but in HTML this is not used to turn things on
and off
shadi: maybe make it look like a button
wilco: I quite like what eric has done
tom: i think the annotations will be very visible once they are in place
shadi: one question was maybe having a submenu
eric: probably we should try a few things out, maybe something with a tick and and a cross for accessible / inaccessible
shadi: maybe use it as a submenu or a second
navigation
... maybe try lighter or darker background
wilco: maybe make the background slightly greener or redder
michael: maybe 2 links with labels: show annotation on / off
tom: maybe have a 'show annotations' / 'hide annotations'
shadi: the message below the inaccessible / show annotations is redundant
sorry, that was shadi who said that
michael: maybe some more space between the tabs, or rounded cornours
shadi: the tab needs to have example 5 template
michael: do we have a template for the inaccessible version?
shadi: yes
<shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/2005/Demo/
shadi: the tempates are part of the demo too so
they should be in the navigation
... what about the colors for red / green
wilco: maybe make the red a bit brighter
tom: maybe, watch the contrast though
shadi: remove the bold from that line
tom: we don't need a seperate icon if we come up with a good system for it
<shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/demos/bad/draft/2009/
shadi: the overview document should not need any changes
<shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/demos/bad/draft/2009/barriers
<shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/demos/bad/draft/2009/report
shadi: can we make this page link with the annotations, so that they are related?
<shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/demos/bad/draft/2009/after/home/
shadi: i'll do most of this work
<shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/demos/bad/draft/2009/after/home/annotations
eric: the close switch has been implemented
wilco: there is a problem with the second annotation, the example can be seen in my e-mail
shadi: looks like the script is done
... maybe make the annotation icons a pale yellow
michael: maybe try different colors for accessibile / inaccessible for background or outline
wilco: I'll try a few different things with colors
shadi: keep the icons consistant, but maybe
change the borders or the color of the text
... change the quick menu maybe to external pages
... the inaccessible version is wider then the accessible
... the date seems to be bigger in the inaccessible
... it looks like verything on the wai-age list had been implemented
... tom, we should start working on the report
tom: the more is done before the report the better
shadi: lets start evaluation the inaccessible page and list every place a technique was not met
tom: what we need is the success criteria
shadi: so we have a list with all the criteria,
beneath it a technique and a line number of the error
... then we'll look at the accessible version, and then make a selection for
the annotations
... tom and i will coordinate on this
tom: the form page is crucial
shadi: next week to discuss the survey page
... we meet next week