W3C

BAD TF

06 May 2009

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
Michael, Eric, Tom, Shadi, Wilco
Regrets
Maik
Chair
Shadi
Scribe
Wilco

Contents


Debrief from WAI-AGE discussion

shadi: thanks for the great work from WAI-AGE

<shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/demos/bad/draft/2009/

shadi: we need to refine a few things
... let me summarize the discussions from wai-age
... request to show clearly the difference between before and after version
... some things: annotations helped

<shadi> http://ericeggert.net/badtf-latest/index/index.html

shadi: people like the addition by eric
... the toggle switch is good (for accessable / inaccessible and annotations)
... we need a metaphor for the on and off function
... we should have annotated pages link to other annotated pages
... annotations and highlights should not be an exausted list
... maybe a different color for the annotation, and different colors between the before and after pages
... the icon of the annotation be a different color for before and after aswell

wilco: all suggestions are very helpful

michael: there is no element to indicate switching between different states accept checkbox
... someone proposed a button, but in HTML this is not used to turn things on and off

shadi: maybe make it look like a button

wilco: I quite like what eric has done

tom: i think the annotations will be very visible once they are in place

shadi: one question was maybe having a submenu

eric: probably we should try a few things out, maybe something with a tick and and a cross for accessible / inaccessible

shadi: maybe use it as a submenu or a second navigation
... maybe try lighter or darker background

wilco: maybe make the background slightly greener or redder

michael: maybe 2 links with labels: show annotation on / off

tom: maybe have a 'show annotations' / 'hide annotations'

shadi: the message below the inaccessible / show annotations is redundant

sorry, that was shadi who said that

michael: maybe some more space between the tabs, or rounded cornours

shadi: the tab needs to have example 5 template

michael: do we have a template for the inaccessible version?

shadi: yes

<shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/2005/Demo/

shadi: the tempates are part of the demo too so they should be in the navigation
... what about the colors for red / green

wilco: maybe make the red a bit brighter

tom: maybe, watch the contrast though

shadi: remove the bold from that line

tom: we don't need a seperate icon if we come up with a good system for it

Status check and further work

<shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/demos/bad/draft/2009/

shadi: the overview document should not need any changes

<shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/demos/bad/draft/2009/barriers

<shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/demos/bad/draft/2009/report

shadi: can we make this page link with the annotations, so that they are related?

<shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/demos/bad/draft/2009/after/home/

shadi: i'll do most of this work

<shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/demos/bad/draft/2009/after/home/annotations

eric: the close switch has been implemented

wilco: there is a problem with the second annotation, the example can be seen in my e-mail

shadi: looks like the script is done
... maybe make the annotation icons a pale yellow

michael: maybe try different colors for accessibile / inaccessible for background or outline

wilco: I'll try a few different things with colors

shadi: keep the icons consistant, but maybe change the borders or the color of the text
... change the quick menu maybe to external pages
... the inaccessible version is wider then the accessible
... the date seems to be bigger in the inaccessible
... it looks like verything on the wai-age list had been implemented
... tom, we should start working on the report

tom: the more is done before the report the better

shadi: lets start evaluation the inaccessible page and list every place a technique was not met

tom: what we need is the success criteria

shadi: so we have a list with all the criteria, beneath it a technique and a line number of the error
... then we'll look at the accessible version, and then make a selection for the annotations
... tom and i will coordinate on this

tom: the form page is crucial

shadi: next week to discuss the survey page
... we meet next week

Summary of Action Items

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