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<Holger> anyone else here?

not yet

<Holger> ...

did you read that paper that I sent you? about sensor networks and water?

he kevin

hi Mick

<michael_> hi

<krp> hi

<Holger> hi

hi

<Adrian> Hello everyone

<Kerry> Hi, Kerry is in on IRC

Kerry: are you IRCing the meeting ?

open agendam 1

<scribe> ACTION: Cory to take minutes next meeting [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/04/22-ssn-minutes.html#action01]

Kerry: options on F2F to be either open workshop or scientific workshop - comments?

Amit_S: Should also consider ISWC as there are a lot of participants... perhaps also do something at Dayton at Ohio State?

Kerry: Proposed it at ISWC, but was rejected

<michael_> iswc due soon, right?

Amit_S: there is a lot more interest this year in semantics and sensors

Amit: What about holding it at W3C TPAC?

<krp> Workshop proposals due 1st May

<krp> http://iswc2009.semanticweb.org/wiki/index.php/ISWC_2009_Workshops/Call_for_Proposals

<michael_> due may 1

amit_s: Dayton @ Wright State rather than Ohio state
... lot's of people in Ohio who would be interested...

amit: W3C TPAC might be closer for people travelling...

amit_s: a scientific workshop in Dayton would be cheaper and ISWC would be good for science as well...
... for up 50 people...

Amit: propose contacting a number of confernces...?

amit_s: Amit_S, Kerry + someone from EU to develop a proposal including half the program committee needs to be selected, particularly for ISWC

Kevin: Happy to help out doing this from the EU perspective

amit_s: we should try for ISWC and if that fails we do it in Dayton

<michael_> Agree with Amit S. If we are to do ISWC, we should decide tonight, set up whose doing it, etc.

Quick Vote on this issue from everyone?

<michael_> +1

+1 please?

<krp> +1

<Cory> +1

<Holger> +1

<Rodrigo> +1

<scribe> ACTION: Kerry to lead the development a proposal with Amit_S and also Kevin [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/04/22-ssn-minutes.html#action02]

<Adrian> +1

<victor> +1

<Cory> +1 on Kerry's idea of combining XG f2f

<Cory> with Workshop (Amit_S)

<krp> co-location +1

<Holger> +1

<michael_> co-loc +1

<Kerry> +1

<Adrian> comment: sounds great, just a money issue of course.

<scribe> ACTION: combine XG f2f with scientific workshop - including co-location [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/04/22-ssn-minutes.html#action03]

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john_Graybeal: Sent links with references to the work that is being done within MMI
... including device ontologies and content standards

Michael_: clicked on all the links, #4 did not have access - access denied

john_graybeal: encourage you to become members as it is free and low overhead...
... that will allow access to all content on the site

Kevin: there is already some stuff on the wiki - should we be consolidating this?

Michael_: we have posted some of the contents of an internal wiki on to that - a bit of a brain dump by Laurent Lefort
... we need to consolidate and re-structure

John_Graybeal: We will keep up the references with what is on the Wiki... can we keep everything on the MMI wiki to reduce the work

Michael_: Are we trying to develop a white paper or a collection of links of interesting activities?

John_graybeal: White paper - not so much the links... should use the existing the material.. should outline the white paper with what we have

+1 to that....

<Holger> +1, too

<krp> +1

<Adrian> +1

<scribe> ACTION: cory and Michael to develop this together... [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/04/22-ssn-minutes.html#action04]

<michael_> use w3c wiki as collaboration space for document.

<michael_> Me, cory, and other contributors write document.

<krp> +1

michael_: survey paper to be submited at ISWC workshop... and possibly a white paper for a conference?

Amit_s: white paper should be something that looks forward

+1

<krp> +1

<Holger> +1 to that

<Adrian> +1

<Cory> +1

<michael_> so, now = survey paper, possibly submit to ISWC

<michael_> later = white paper, built from survey paper, what we did, and future vision, etc.

<scribe> ACTION: Survery paper - submit to ISWC workshop [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/04/22-ssn-minutes.html#action05]

<scribe> ACTION: In the future = white paper, built from survey paper, what we did, and future vision, etc. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/04/22-ssn-minutes.html#action06]

<scribe> ACTION: amit_p to update the deliverables on the SSN-XG web page [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/04/22-ssn-minutes.html#action07]

<Kerry> +q

+q

<Cory> for example: http://docs.google.com/Presentation?id=dcc9wxc9_142htpwmhfw

<Kerry> +1

<michael_> presentation or not, why not all put a short bit on the wiki.

<Holger> I second michael's proposal

<Adrian> agreed

is this an action?

<michael_> amit and cory have already done the presentation, we could listen to this independent of if we want to have others.

<michael_> i.e. have the presentation today

amit_s: presentations to be focused on the agenda of the group?

<krp> If there is some required reading to be done before the meeting, this seems reasonable - discussion of that presentation/paper can then be an agenda item?

Luis: presentations not to occur everymeeting..

<michael_> agree with Kevin

<Holger> +1to Kevin

<Kerry> +1

<Adrian> +1

<Cory> +1

<scribe> ACTION: presentations should relate to work that is being done in XG + providing background material - focusing on efficient use of time. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/04/22-ssn-minutes.html#action08]

<krp> +1 to proposal of wiki background, bio, relevance of work

<scribe> ACTION: All participants to put their bio's (or link to your home page) & link to your project - with some summary of how the work is relevant is to XG (limit each to 5 lines or less) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/04/22-ssn-minutes.html#action09]

<Cory> Template: Participants, Project NAme and Summary (max 5 sentence with URL to project page), aspects of Relevance to XG (max 5 sentences)]

<Cory> Amit_S

<krp> Yes, need at least a couple of days notice to guarantee time to do required reading

http://www.doodle.com/ys2d7y9pv25x746g

<Holger> sort of...

<michael_> +1 to ...sort of...

<scribe> ACTION: modify doodle to be at 11PM eastern time... [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/04/22-ssn-minutes.html#action10]

<krp> +1 1300 UTC Tuesday as week (b)

<michael_> +1

<Kerry> +1

<Holger> +1

<Rodrigo> +1

<scribe> ACTION: Tuesday at 13:00 UTC as a decision.... (Week b) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/04/22-ssn-minutes.html#action11]

<victor> +1

<Adrian> +1

<Cory> +1

<Adrian> sorry, I have to leave now. Another meeting. Cheers

bye Adrian

<Adrian> bye

<scribe> ACTION: cory and manfred to discuss Week a timings... [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/04/22-ssn-minutes.html#action12]

<Holger> +1

<krp> +1

<michael_> +1

<victor> +1

<Rodrigo> +1

<Cory> +1

<scribe> ACTION: next meeting to be Week b time slot [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/04/22-ssn-minutes.html#action13]

<michael_> bye

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