W3C

BAD TF

22 Apr 2009

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
Shadi, Tom, Eric, Maik
Regrets
Marco, Michael, Wilco
Chair
Shadi
Scribe
Maik

Contents


In-between pages

<shadi> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-eo-badtf/2009Apr/0011

<shadi> http://bad.ericeggert.net/after/home/annotations

eric: inbetween pages are already implemented

<eric> http://bad.ericeggert.net/xml/after/home.xml

eric prepared a special xml-format

group: awsome!

eric: the position of the elements is defined by a small PHP-script

shadi: let's put a 'close' button at the right top corner of the note
... of the annotated version

<shadi> ACTION: Wilco to add a 'close' button on the top right corner of the message box [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/04/22-badtf-minutes.html#action01]

Survey page

<shadi> http://bad.ericeggert.net/after/survey/

Tom: screenreaders in form mode skip reading headers?

shadi: best practice should be to seperate the survey

eric heard that's best to get rid of the fieldsets

Tom: screenreaders repeat the legend for each option of a fieldset

<shadi> RESOLUTION: (1) fieldsets need to be shortened (2) make highlight color more subtle

shadi: how to provide headings with fields?

<shadi> QUESTIONS: how to best provide headings together with forms

<shadi> RESOLUTION: (3) change combo boxes to other types of form fields such as radio buttons where possible

shadi: we want to show each kind of form-elements here

<shadi> http://bad.ericeggert.net/before/survey/annotations

Tom: there is a lot of repetition here

<shadi> ACTION: Eric and Shadi to inquire about current best practices and respond to Marco [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/04/22-badtf-minutes.html#action02]

WAI-AGE implementations

<shadi> http://bad.ericeggert.net/before/home/

<shadi> http://bad.ericeggert.net/before/news/

<shadi> http://www.wienfluss.net/BAD/wai-age_bad.html

Evaluations and reporting

Tom: is there a stable enough version of the before pages for evaluation?

shadi: stay tuned and have a look at the after pages
... yes, we will have a report like the last time

<shadi> ACTION: Shadi to ask WAI-AGE TF if the report is required, and if so what format it should have (the current one is very complex) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/04/22-badtf-minutes.html#action03]

shadi: our annotations highlight only the hardest issues

Tom: 12 to 15 should be enough

<shadi> ACTION: Shadi to ask WAI-AGE TF if the template is required, and if so how should we clarify it is part of the Demo [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/04/22-badtf-minutes.html#action04]

Tom: we should show a naked template, without any includes

Demo navigation

<shadi> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-eo-badtf/2009Apr/0020.html

<eric> http://ericeggert.net/badtf-latest/index/

eric: I got a new approach to the toggled version

shadi: I want to show a improved version to the WAI-AGE TF

Beta version

<shadi> http://bad.ericeggert.net/after/home/

Next meetings

<shadi> 6 May

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: Eric and Shadi to inquire about current best practices and respond to Marco [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/04/22-badtf-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: Shadi to ask WAI-AGE TF if the report is required, and if so what format it should have (the current one is very complex) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/04/22-badtf-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: Shadi to ask WAI-AGE TF if the template is required, and if so how should we clarify it is part of the Demo [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/04/22-badtf-minutes.html#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: Wilco to add a 'close' button on the top right corner of the message box [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/04/22-badtf-minutes.html#action01]
 
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