WAI-AGE Task Force - 25 March 2009



Michael, Andrew, William, Darren
Jack, Helle, Nacho, Shadi, Isabelle, Suzette


The meeting concentrated on reviewing the Draft of Developing a Web Accessibility Business Case for Your Organization prior to requesting EOWG to approve for publishing.

BC Overview

<andrew> http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/Drafts/bcase/Overview.html

andrew: final draft before publishing it
... introduction: give people a better idea about the document
... encourage people to develop their own business case

william: change "is increasingly ..." to "has ..."

andrew: in some parts of the world it still has to become an important resource

Michael: regarding accessible web-shops have increased trustworthiness. we need evidence for this.
... will discuss with my team after the meeting and see what we can offer

William: can we use 'ageing in place' in some arguments

BC Social factors

<andrew> http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/Drafts/bcase/soc.html

Andrew: "A consideration of the social factors associated with Web accessibility can help understand the potential market and may also have an impact on the marketing an organization undertakes." should this sentence stay here or shall we move it to the financial section?

All: agree to keep it here.

Andrew: number of people with disabilities depends very much on the measurement method and varies therefore from country to country
... Ageing is a little easier to quantify

Andrew: any additional comments on the section "Access for Older People"?

William: "Web Accessibility Benefits People With and Without Disabilities" tech details does not fit into "social factors" section

Michael: agree with William - it breaks the reading flow by having the technical bits here

Michael: maybe we can have a toggle to hide / unhide the technical notes

Andrew: we may be able to take out the WCAG 1.0 references in future [but WCAG 1.0 is still very current for many]

BC Technical factors

<andrew> http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/Drafts/bcase/tech.html

William:universal design should be an argument in favour of incorporating accessibility early

William: people should take a long view because of legal and social issues - accessibility now is cheaper than legal costs later

BC Financial factors

<andrew> http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/Drafts/bcase/fin.html

andrew: discussing the argument: "priority in the organization to retain the knowledge and experience of its older employees"
... shall we keep the argument (here)?

All:the group agrees to keep this here

Andrew: keep " Retention of knowledge and expertise of older employees" in section "Direct Cost Savings"
... add note about recruitment and training costs for new employees

Michael: in a recent large multi-lingual project, we had the additional cost of translating alt text - 19,000 Euro to translate for about 3,000 images
... a big cost!
... small in relation to text translation, but not factored in and an unbudgetted cost
... was actually a case of increasing costs of accessibility

BC legal and Policy factors

<andrew> http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/Drafts/bcase/pol.html

No additional discussion

Summary of Action Items

No action items

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