See also: IRC log, previous 2009-02-10
RESOLVED to accept 2009/02/10-swd-minutes.html as minutes of previous telecon
PROPOSED next telecon 10 March
Ralph: note that the telcon time will be at
1500 UTC on March 10 and subsequent
... i.e. 1 hour earlier for Europeans
<TomB> +1
RESOLVED next telecon 10 March, 1500 UTC
Ralph: I pinged the chair of I18N yesterday
... no response yet
... but Richard Ishida did ask if we were going to reply to his
2-Feb message
... Felix Sasaki followed that up in public-swd-wg/2009Feb/0011
Guus: we won't be able to solve all the problems of concepts in different languages
Alistair: when I read Felix's response he
seemed to be explaining the theories of thesaurii in various languages
... so there didn't really seem to be an issue; just a dialog
Guus: perhaps making that statement would be an appropriate followup from us
ACTION: Alistair look at Richard Ishida and Felix Sasaki's messages in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2009Feb/thread.html#msg10 and see if there's an issue [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/02/24-swd-minutes.html#action01]
ACTION: [CONTINUES] Ralph include in the Call for Implementation prose on "feedback on implementations of SKOS Editors and Checkers" [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/02/10-swd-minutes.html#action07]
ACTION: [DONE] Alistair update the RDF file for response to Magnus Knuth's comment [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/02/10-swd-minutes.html#action03]
Alistair: I believe I've done this and thought
I'd sent mail
... will find that mail
-> "Re: ISSUE-190: Last Call Comment: Unicity of prefLabel (comment in SKOS RDF)" [Alistair 2009-02-10]
<aliman> thanks ralph, that's it
ACTION: [DONE] Antoine raise and close an issue for Magnus Knuth's comment [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/02/10-swd-minutes.html#action02]
Antoine: action should have read "raise and open"
Ralph: yep
-> "Re: [SKOS] Re: TR : W3C SKOS Reference Last Call (3 days left in comment period) [ISSUE-189, ISSUE-190]" [Antoine's reply]
Antoine: there might still be updates to the Primer
<Antoine> public-esw-thes/2009Feb/0069
Antoine: Pat Hayes read the Primer and
commented on a misleading sentence
... I proposed
one rewrite, and Alistair proposed a different one
... then I received mail from Pat accepting my rewrite
Alistair: go ahead with your version
ACTION: Antoine provide a pointer to the new Primer Editor's Draft [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/02/24-swd-minutes.html#action05]
Antoine: Pat neglected to cc: his reply to a list, so his approval of my text isn't on a record
Guus: just include Pat's reply in your mail
Sean: start of
implementation report
... best thing is to keep it simple
ACTION: [DONE] Sean to report on SKOSED for SKOS implementation report [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/06-swd-minutes.html#action10]
Guus: I think it's OK to close Sean's action
given the draft
... dl.getdropbox.com/u/573036/SWD/implementation
is the kind of implement I was hoping for
Sean: it's hard to pin down some things
... so it's necessarily somewhat informal
<seanb> From the OED: wooly: " 6. transf. and fig. Lacking in definiteness or incisiveness; ‘muzzy’; (of the mind, etc.) confused and hazy; (of painting, etc.) lacking in clearness or definition; (of sound, etc.) dull and indistinct."
Ralph: Thanks, Sean :)
ACTION: Sean move http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/573036/SWD/implementation.html to the WG Wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/02/24-swd-minutes.html#action07]
ACTION: Antoine add the Vrieje Uni tool to the implementation report [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/02/24-swd-minutes.html#action08]
Ben: discussions with the HTML Working Group
continue
... it's a bit of a roller coaster
... Manu Sporny has been a good interface with them
... we're exploring the possibility of proposing a new attribute, @prefix, as
a way of moving forward on CURIE mappings
... within the Task Force we're close to consensus on adding @prefix, (name
not cast in concrete)
... would do the same thing as @xmlns
Guus: I'd be in favor of this
Ben: the reason for a new attribute is ...
... some parsers will do the right thing with @xmlns accumulating all the
prefixes declared up to each point in the document
... other parsers might not do this; it depends on how the DOM tree might be
fixed-up
... so it's inconsistent whether one can get at all the @xmlns data with
every DOM implementaton
... I've demonstrated working code for every modern browser but it's
admittedly a bit messy
... sometimes need to use DOM level 1 calls
... all this is much cleaner if we use some other attribute than @xmlns
... the Task Force hopes to converge very quickly
... thought of perhaps issuing a Note on what we think ought to be done
... but very recently there's some feedback suggesting we propose to revise
the RDFa Recommendatoin
Ralph: might be able to do this as a Proposed
Edited Recommendation
... I'll have to remind myself what review is required for that
Ben: we're getting very positive feedback on @prefix unofficially from implementors
Guus: if there's any chance of doing this, I'm very much in favor of it
<TomB> http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/tr.html#cfr-edited
Ralph: even if it means extending the Working Group by 1-4 weeks?
Guus: certainly
ACTION: [CONTINUES] Ralph to review the revised Recipes draft [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/12/02-swd-minutes.html#action15]
ACTION: [CONTINUES] Ralph/Diego to work on Wordnet implementation [of Recipes implementations] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action20]
ACTION: [CONTINUES] Ralph post his comments on the editor's draft of the metadata note [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/25-swd-minutes.html#action03]
ACTION: [DONE] Guus send draft of revised OWL2 response by end of day Tuesday, for WG to review on Wednesday, then send to OWL WG on Thursday [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/02/10-swd-minutes.html#action13]
-> "LC comments SWD Working Group" [Guus 2009-02-12]
[adjourned]
ACTION: [PENDING] Ben review RDFa Use Cases and propose transition to Group Note [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/30-swd-minutes.html#action02]