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<bijan> Bristol line seems down
<bijan> My first attempt was 1) crackly and 2) didn't recognize the passcode
<bijan> My second attempt is just hitting nothing :(
<LeeF> (trying to figure it out)
<bijan> (still down)
I looked out the window and Bristol is still there :-)
<LeeF> Well at least we have one thing going for us :)
<bijan> Glad to hear it!
<bijan> It's a cool city!
I am too. More so probabaly.
<bijan> Pfft...you're far enough from the centre
<bijan> A nuke would just toast you a bit :)
I get "that code is not valid"
<bijan> I can't connect at all
<swh> I got an ok line, but couldn't connect to 77277
<iv_an_ru> At least people will prefer Bristol to Novosibirsk when we will vote for F2F site
<swh> that's true
Code is not valid.
<swh> ah, whats the right code?
<LeeF> I'm guessing that, uh, it never got setup :( everybody hang on a bit
<AxelPolleres> same here, couldn't connect to 77277
Right code - but does not work - see also the zakim "no confernce message"
What was the DAWG code?
<iv_an_ru> Isn't the code restricted to 4 numbers?
<LeeF> iv_an_ru: no, some are 5
<bijan> oo, a connection
<LeeF> I requested it last week, but don't remember seeing a confirmation.
<bijan> I can call in now, but the passcode is borked
<LeeF> Let's use 26631
<LeeF> I will send an updated email
Now I get a ringing tone after Ralph's message
<bijan> AndyS: I was getting that
<iv_an_ru> Should I tell Orri that the code is 26631?
<AxelPolleres> (just joined with passcode 26631)
<swh> Zakim: ??P2 is Garlik
<ericP> if we restart, we shoudl get the code SPARQL
<bijan> I think you have to drop off
<bijan> You can use the hand wave feature
<alepas> Zakim: ??p4 is me
<LeeF> iv_an_ru: yes, please do relay 26631 to Orri
<bijan> 41# will raise your hand
<iv_an_ru> I did
<bijan> So if you don't know which P you are
<bijan> Type on the keypad 41#
<bijan> Note that the hand raise trick puts the person on the queue...chairs should clear it
<LeeF> how? :)
<bijan> tracy ack
<bijan> try ack
<ericP> i just cleared it
Now can't dial in to US number either : suggests it's not the Bristol number
<iv_an_ru> I wan unable to dial in to Nice
<LeeF> Scribe: AndyS_
Round the phone:
<AxelPolleres> (please all who don't speak mute themselves, thnx.)
Lee and Axel are the group's co-chairs
<kasei> Axel: is there a way to do that through the conf. system?
<LeeF> kasei: you can type "zakim, mute me"
<AxelPolleres> kasei, type "Zakim, mute me"
<swh> "Luke Wilson-Mawer"
<AxelPolleres> we'd kindly request people to also send intro mails to the mailing list, and also enter an introduction to the wiki (http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki).
W3C staff contacts: EricP and Ivan Herman
<AxelPolleres> orri and ivan on the same phone line (for attendees list)
<iv_an_ru> Orri is at Utrecht and I'm in Novosibirsk, I guess that lines differ.
(Dan Schutzer not attending today)
<Phil> Hi, Bijan!
<Phil> Jenna Zhou
<LeeF> Andy Seaborne
<AxelPolleres> On http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=35463 I don't see yet all of the people here.
<bijan> +1 to AndyS speed point
<bijan> Oops. Manchester is likely to have a second person as well, someone who's been heavily involved with a joint UManchester/Seimans project
HP will be represented by two people: Andy Seaborne and Ahmed Ezzat
Weekly telecon : discussion on timing
Issue: PST is 06:30 and we have people on the west coast
<AxelPolleres> (when typing, please mute yourselves)
Also clash with RIF calls just after SPARQL
LeeF: Meetings usually an hour
Dave: 7am is OK
LeeF: Suggestion 15:00Z
AxelPolleres: then limits me to one hour due to RIF
15: 00Z = 10am EST = 7am PST until clocks change
Bijan: teach some of those slots but UManchester will have two people.
<bijan> I appreciate the chairs consideration
LeeF: Days other than Tuesday is tricky for chairs/staff contacts
<bijan> If the chairs are willing for asynch feedback from me on the days that I can't attend, I would be grateful
Phil: 10am OK but Singapore would be a problem.
<LeeF> Very happy for async feedback
LeeF: For now, 15:00Z telecons -- 10am EST -- 7am PST
LeeF: 18 months running
... key point
... RECs from last time (QL, Protocol, Results)
... also JSON Results format -- WG Note
... charter for adding key features for users; things that have been impelemnted and used sufficiently widely
... all SPARQL v1 queries shouldl be the same
... scope suggestions:
... update and delete
... aggregate functions
<scribe> ... new filters and functions
(e.g. service description)
... describe inference regime
... make DESCRIBE more interoperable
... (was non-normative in REC)
... consider an XML syntax for SPARQL
<swh> (project named expressions was missed I think)
UNKNOWN_SPEAKER: next week : round table for members to state what they see needed
EricP: Do some to meet schedule then flesh out if more time
LeeF: step one is UC&R (2
minths - maybe 6 weeks) will fix the features
... charter says prioritize
<iv_an_ru> Shouldn't we make a table with row per feature and column per implementation, to enumerate SPARQL extensions do we have implemented already?
<iv_an_ru> in a wiki
AxelPolleres: after 6 weeks we can close the feature set to stay on schedule
Orri: Implemented extensions - will submit the prioritized extensions
LeeF: Want to gather what's out
... inc popularity
... then juggle.
... Other deliverables: REC updates
... already one month late :-)
LeeF: Travel may be an issue
... likely less F2F
... first F2F around end of UC&R
<bijan> +1 to AndyS
<bijan> I've done a bunch of remote F2F participation
<bijan> I'd even go down to bristol or host UK folks so we have some "nodes" of f2f particpating at weird hours
AndyS_: virtual F2F : will set aside time to attend properly even if remote
<bijan> Manchester has a nice room for telepresence
<bijan> The "Access Grid"
<swh> may 5,6,7 is ok for me
LeeF: timing: 1st week May (5th
... Location: Boston
<ywang4> Hi, i just got here. May 4-6 are best for me
LeeF: maybe other links (e.g.UK)
<ywang4> it's Yimin from Lilly
<bijan> Not great for me
<iv_an_ru> May 1-10 is not very convenient for me but I'm probably missing F2f anyway.
Looks OK at the moment
<bijan> Mon-tues much worse than wed-fri
(how many Lilly people are there in the WG?)
<ywang4> I think Susie and me here
<Phil> Plus Phil and Jenna
LeeF: will try for 5&6 May
<Phil> Jenna, though, may not participate quite as often
LeeF: will take to email
<ywang4> Hi Phil, I didn't notice you are here as well
LeeF: Comments and questions?
AxelPolleres: Self-intros to the list
<AxelPolleres> Please all send self-introductions until next week.
LeeF: Chairs will seek out editors for documents over time
End of meeting
EricP - can you remind of the minutes magic?
<LeeF> AndyS, I will take care of the minutes and get them online
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