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<joakim> scribe: Tobias
Next meeting: Tuesday, 24.02. 13:00-14:00 UTC
<daniel> I can't make a call due to unknown problem in my office. I moved to a new office here yesterday but I don't know what problem happens...
<daniel> Joakim, I will be only on the IRC...
Scribe for next tuesday: Veronique
Werner on ACTION-47: did not yet succeed a really good example...
scribe: but discovered good work on metadata crosswalks
Werner: will send pointers on
... some work on crosswalks done by PB Core (how to discover mappings) and from OCL (Crosswalk Service)
... both also discuss datatype mismatches and mapping problems, and also structural mapping problems
<scribe> ACTION: Joakim and Werner will look into the Google Dataset API [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/02/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-87 - And Werner will look into the Google Dataset API [on Joakim Söderberg - due 2009-02-24].
ACTION-47 --- continued
ACTION-54 --- continued
ACTION-82 -- continues
<pchampin> my connexion is slow
<pchampin> not good for voice
<pchampin> could you remind me the title of A83?
<pchampin> no progress
title: review id-3
Werner: suggests to close the action and to re-assign once we decided how to go on with the mappings.
Thierry: will send the input on ACTION-84 today.
ACTION-85 --- continues
Felix: will be pending for two weeks
Joakim: this might collide with the deadline for the documents.
<chris_ibbt> same here
Felix: We got a lot of comments
about the use cases; the most important things of the
deliverable are however the requirements for which we did not
get many comments.
... We can be fast in moving the requirements document forwards.
ACTION-85 -- continues
Felix: dan Connolly pointed out
that we should be more careful about the terminology.
... ... agrees with Dan's proposal
... Does the working group agree with Dan's proposal?
<VeroniqueM> I could send a proposal to the mailing list about rephrasing the terminology
<VeroniqueM> and the group could discuss if it is clearer :)
<VeroniqueM> I agree that the terminology should be further defined in the document
Joakim: does the working group oppose with the comments from Dan?
The working group agreed with the comment from Dan and there is no objection against the comment. Proposal is accepted.
<daniel> Dan's suggestion as *design principle* seems to me more broad than *requirements* and there are already lots of *requirements* draft within W3C
Joakim Topic: Toy applications
Joakim: there has been also a proposal by Wonsuk to discuss toy application issues in the Wiki.
Felix: Played with the toy
... ...common property: existing APIs are used for the reading steps...
... ...a series of if-then-else statements are implemented for the mapping ("if its of property A map it to property B")...
... ...it would be good to have clearer descriptions of the applications.
Joakim: Questions to Pierre-Antoine: do you have to add something regarding your application?
Felix: what do people think about the common parts of the toy applications?
Joakim: any comments about the mapping tables?
Werner: there is an issue with
the smpte and dms-1 mapping (he sent an email today)
... It would make sense to have DMS-1 seperately.
Joakim: Collaboration on the sheet would be helpful, i.e. people should take of "his/her" format
<VeroniqueM> I can review the VRA sheet. There are two mapings proposed between VRA an Dublin Core, shall I send these examples to the list too?
<VeroniqueM> There are two mapings proposed between VRA an Dublin Core in RDF, shall I send these examples to the list?
Felix: Problems to see relations between table and API
Veronique: W3C has mappings
between VRA and Dublin Core (they are expressed in RDF)
... Will send the mappings to the list.
... there are not many relations between properties; e.g. the can be broader,narrower or equal (not much more)
Felix: Complete list would be
... where does the information on the mapping come from, i.e. how it would work with the formalisation.
Feilx: Sent a mail to Raphael and he will probably come back to this.
Joakim: added the properties that
Veronique proposed (exact, more general, more specific,
... to the excel mapping table
Felix: The mapping table is
important and should be a main part of the ontology...perhaps
we should even consider publishing the table?
... Would propose a mapping table that is feasible for publication. Would be good to get feedback.
Joakim: likes the idea because we might attract interest from others.
<wonsuk> +1 for felix
Joakim: Everyone should do the
editing of "his" format in the table
... once we have a more preliminary version then we can publish it
Felix: we should give ourselves deadlines on that.
<wonsuk> +1 for Joakim & Felix
Felix: We should write a mail to
the list that we plan to publish the table around the 17th of
March (or as soon as possible)
... and whether people agree.
Joakim: Will write the mail.
<scribe> ACTION: Felix to To gather material for publishing a recommendation track working draft [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/02/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-88 - Gather material for publishing a recommendation track working draft [on Felix Sasaki - due 2009-02-24].
<wonsuk> What is the recommendation track working draft ? Ontology and API Docs ?
Felix: regrets for next week; he
hopes to join the group as an "Invited Expert" soon
... he already triggered the process.
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