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10 Feb 2009

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Gary, csma, cke, [IPcaller]
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csma

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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rif-wg/2009Feb/0054.html

Do( (?x _o[_p->?x])

Do( (?x _o[_p=?x] ) Assert(_o[_p=(?x * 10)]))

<PVincent> Qu: can we have multi-dimension values for slot values eg (index, value) ?

Do( (?x _o[_p=?x] ) Modify(_o[_p->(?x * 10)]))

_o[_p->1]

if _o[_p->1] or _o[_p->2] then Do( (?x _o[_p->?x]) Retract(_o[_p->?x]) Assert(_o[_p->?x+1]))

<cke> we need a resolution on modify

if _o[_p->?y] and (?y = 1 or ?y = 2) then Do( (?x _o[_p->?x])

Retract(_o[_p->?x]) Assert(_o[_p->?x+1]))

<cke> repeatability controls if rule2 will fired once.

forall ?y, if _o[_p->?y] and (?y = 1 or ?y = 2) then Do( (?x _o[_p->?x]) Retract(_o[_p->?x]) Assert(_o[_p->?x+1]))

_o[_p->1]

_o[_p->2]

<PVincent> Rule will fire a 2nd time as o.p has changed, surely, and a condition now becomes valid?

<PVincent> PS: Always best to consider "or"s as separate rules IMHO...

<Gary> we have to check if these rules are Core-Safe

@Gary: yes, they are, because of _o[_p->?y] in th econdition

<Gary> yes but there are some funny conditions about disjunctions

if _o[_p->1] or _o[_p->2] then Do( (?x _o[_p->?x]) Assert(_o[_p->?x+1]))

forall ?y, if _o[_p->?y] and (?y = 1 or ?y = 2) then Do( (?x _o[_p->?x]) Assert(_o[_p->?x+1]))

_o[_p->1]

<PVincent> if _o[_p->1] or _o[_p->2] then Do( (?x _o[_p->?x]) Retract(_o[_p->?x]) Assert(_o[_p->?x+1])) --> isnt the action here doing the match (ie for all...) ?

_o[_p->1] _o[_p->2]

<PVincent> Isn't this a boundary case anyway, covering Core --> PRD mappings, vs the usual case of vendorPR --> PRD --> vendorPR ?

<PVincent> Garys proposal: use metadata to mark a rulevariable?

<cke> if we had to use metadata, I would put them in rules (not in variables)

_o[_x->1]

if ?o[_x->1] then Do(Retract(?o[_x->1]) Assert(?o[_x->1]))

<PVincent> for o.x if o.x=1 then o.x=1 ? Another boundary case?

<PVincent> ... so this is a problem for non-modify cases...

From Feb3: <Gary> if Modify(obj[slot->value]) means the same as Do(Retract(obj[slot->*]) Assert(obj[slot->value])) then I am in favor of Modify

<cke> this looks good

<PVincent> +1

<cke> +1

<Gary> +1

PROPOSED: add a Modify(frame), with the sematics that Modify(obj[slot->value]) means the same as Do(Retract(obj[slot->*]) Assert(obj[slot->value]))

<cke> +1

RESOLUTION: add a Modify(frame), with the sematics that Modify(obj[slot->value]) means the same as Do(Retract(obj[slot->*]) Assert(obj[slot->value]))

<PVincent> +1

<Gary> +1

Summary of Action Items

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