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<scribe> Scribe: Len Charest
<scribe> ScribeNick: lencharest
<johnarwe_> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sml/2009Jan/att-0025/20090115-sml-minutes.html
RESOLUTION: Minutes approved
<scribe> No progress, but updates to speadsheet have been made by others
John: Will close action 215
MSM: Have draft wording for old namespace docs
<MSM> http://www.w3.org/2008/09/sml
<MSM> http://www.w3.org/2008/09/sml-if
MSM: Above URIs show current wording
Len: Change all occurences of 'namespaces' to 'namespace'
Otherwise, Group approves draft language
MSM: Webmaster put them under ns/
directory, along with namespace docs
... But I see no other schema docs in the ns/ directory
... Propose that we adopt policy of publishing "dated" schema
URIs akin to the dated URIs for TRs
RESOLUTION: Dated schema URIs will be implemented
John: Propose 12:30pm-1:30pm Eastern on Mondays starting with first meeting in Feb
RESOLUTION: WG teleconference will take place from 12:30pm-1:30pm Eastern on Mondays starting with first meeting in Feb
RESOLUTION: Text will be changed per description in bug text
John: Bug updated as editorial
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=6245
<johnarwe_> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sml/2009Jan/0041.html
Current rev of spreadsheet in CVS is 1.6
Ginny: derefNV is about testing smlfn:deref outside a validator; will we have an implementation
John: Depends on how we define
the test
... One option is to say derefNV is not relevant for
demonstration of implementation experience
Option two: change the definition of derefNV so that we don't need to test outside the context of a validator
Ginny: Focus of tests is on SML validators
John: Conclusion seems to be that derefNV is not relevant for SML interop
Kumar: SML spec section 4.2.7 has note adressing smlfn:deref and interop
MSM: There is value in separation
of defn of smlfn:deref from SML validation; smlfn:deref is
useful outside of validation
... reluctant to lose the derefNV feature
Ginny: Would COSMOS serve as an implementation of derefNV because of how smlfn:deref is implemented?
John: Yes
... We have consensus to update the spreadsheet as described by
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sml/2009Jan/0022.html
Kumar will make change #1 -- adding a second expected results column to differentiate between implementations supporting the
feature and one for those not supporting it
<johnarwe_> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sml/2009Jan/0047.html
John: Text re row 19 actually applies to row 16
Kumar: MS impl matches expected result for row 16
John: Re row 29 -- Multiple sml:uris means not a valid SML ref; should we remove the test case?
Kumar: suggest updating expected result instead
Ginny: If test is discarded, then create a test that specifically addresses non-root elements
<johnarwe_> <sml:uri>Courses#smlxpath1(/u:Courses/u:Course[2])</sml:uri>
John: There are many other tests that target non-root; shall we remove row 29?
MSM: Let's just mark it invalid
John: In the past, we've removed
invalid tests
... For consistency, let's remove the test in row 29 (but
preserve the row so that row numbers remain the same)
... Re row 76 --- need MS results
Kumar: MS results are 76 is false, 77 is true
John: Re 96-99 --- we should add
remarks to suggest cosmos alter the tests so a non-supporting
impl would find the model invalid
... How shall we define test pass? Percentage of tests where
actual result equals expected result?
MSM: W3C has no rule on this
MSM: We need a "clean" copy of
the spec that is ready to publish at any time
... We need an estimate from the editors on when we will have a
ready-to-publish draft
John: Shall we request transition
to PR?
... Sandy has already said "yes"
... We have consensus
RESOLUTION: WG will request transition to PR status for SML and SML-IF specs
Ginny: Outstanding editorial changes will be made within a week
<johnarwe_> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sml/2009Jan/0022.html
<johnarwe_> under "changes still needed"
<johnarwe_> all have 2x - (--) in front
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