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<trackbot> Date: 16 December 2008
<alewis> trackbot, start telcon
<trackbot> Meeting: SOAP-JMS Binding Working Group Teleconference
<trackbot> Date: 16 December 2008
<Roland> http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/wiki/2008-09_FAQ
Roland: Is "Why is WS-Addressing out of scope for SOAP-JMS Binding specification? " the right question
Bhakti: Some of the points in the FAQ entry are taken from the questions on the mailing list. If we re-phrase the question we may need to rephrase the answer
Roland: The SOAP/JMS binding is analagous to the SOAP/HTTP binding which does not mention WS-Addressing
Peter: SOAP/JMS is much more asynchronous than HTTP, but it does boild down to providing the transport - replies with correllation IDs are like the HTTP anonymous back channe
Roland: We could have 2 questions i.e. - "Why is there no mention to WS-Addressing in the SOAP/JMS Binding Spec?" and "How would WS-Addressing relate to SOAP/JMS?"
Eric "Where does WS-Addressing fit?"
Peter: Agreed - sounds like a good question
Yves: WS-Addressing happens at the application level - it is application specific, whereas SOAP/JMS happens lower at the transport layer
Eric: We *could* specify how WS-A maps to SOAP/JMS but we don't need to put that in our specification - it should be specified elsewhere. Probably worth suggesting that the anonymous back channel maps to the SOAP/JMS ReplyTo mechanism in the FAQ
Yves: Maybe say that It is possible to map WSA to SOAP/JMS, but it is never possible to map SOAP/JMS to WSA
Eric: MediaWiki has discussion pages so we can discuss this in the Wiki. Could send emails inviting people to contribute
Roland: Could all members of the working group be added to the Wiki please?
Yves: If all WG members create Wiki IDs then Yves will grant them the necessary permissions
Action peaston to Add answer to FAQ on how to use WSA anonymous and JMS ReplyTo
<trackbot> Created ACTION-56 - Add answer to FAQ on how to use WSA anonymous and JMS ReplyTo [on Peter Easton - due 2008-12-23].
Roland: In the new year we will send a message to the mailing list inviting readers to join the debate on the Wiki
<Roland> http://dev.w3.org/2008/ws/soapjms/testcases/testcases/testcases.html
Peter: This adds some detail to
the cases Phil put together
... It covers each of the fault types SOAP1.1 and 1.2
... A lot of the XML behind the tests is very boiler-plate
<Roland> http://dev.w3.org/2008/ws/soapjms/testcases/assertions/assertions.html
Eric: We have two tests reporting
unsupported JMS message format - for SOAP1.1 and SOAP 1.2. I am
worried about the explosion of the text matrix - one of these
seems redudant
... We could end up with 4 test for each combination of SOAP
1.1, 1.2 TextMessage and BytesMessage. We should use our
judgement to determine whether all the tests are required
Peter: Agreed
<Roland> http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/actions/open
close action-51
<trackbot> ACTION-51 Add a test case. closed
close action-19
<trackbot> ACTION-19 Write up an answer to the question of WS-Addressing. closed
Roland: had contact from Cisco, suggested they would contact Eric directly
Bhakti: Contacted Chris Newman from Sun who has said he would review and give suggestions
Eric: Was cc'ed on emails between
members of the IETF. Eric will forward to the mailing
list.
... Lisa Dusseault has offered to look at the draft
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-soap-jms/2008Dec/0016.html
s/De Salls/Lisa Dusseault/
(thanks Yves)
Bhakti: Will chase up Chris
<alewis> +1
Roland: Will be away for two weeks - propose next call on the 6th January 2009
+1
all agree
RESOLUTION: Next call 6th January 2009
none
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