SOAP-JMS Binding Working Group Teleconference

16 Dec 2008


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+1.919.663.aaaa, alewis, Roland, Yves, Peter_Easton, +0196270aabb, +1.408.956.aacc, +1.650.846.aadd, eric




<trackbot> Date: 16 December 2008

<alewis> trackbot, start telcon

<trackbot> Meeting: SOAP-JMS Binding Working Group Teleconference

<trackbot> Date: 16 December 2008


<Roland> http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/wiki/2008-09_FAQ

Roland: Is "Why is WS-Addressing out of scope for SOAP-JMS Binding specification? " the right question

Bhakti: Some of the points in the FAQ entry are taken from the questions on the mailing list. If we re-phrase the question we may need to rephrase the answer

Roland: The SOAP/JMS binding is analagous to the SOAP/HTTP binding which does not mention WS-Addressing

Peter: SOAP/JMS is much more asynchronous than HTTP, but it does boild down to providing the transport - replies with correllation IDs are like the HTTP anonymous back channe

Roland: We could have 2 questions i.e. - "Why is there no mention to WS-Addressing in the SOAP/JMS Binding Spec?" and "How would WS-Addressing relate to SOAP/JMS?"

Eric "Where does WS-Addressing fit?"

Peter: Agreed - sounds like a good question

Yves: WS-Addressing happens at the application level - it is application specific, whereas SOAP/JMS happens lower at the transport layer

Eric: We *could* specify how WS-A maps to SOAP/JMS but we don't need to put that in our specification - it should be specified elsewhere. Probably worth suggesting that the anonymous back channel maps to the SOAP/JMS ReplyTo mechanism in the FAQ

Yves: Maybe say that It is possible to map WSA to SOAP/JMS, but it is never possible to map SOAP/JMS to WSA

Eric: MediaWiki has discussion pages so we can discuss this in the Wiki. Could send emails inviting people to contribute

Roland: Could all members of the working group be added to the Wiki please?

Yves: If all WG members create Wiki IDs then Yves will grant them the necessary permissions

Action peaston to Add answer to FAQ on how to use WSA anonymous and JMS ReplyTo

<trackbot> Created ACTION-56 - Add answer to FAQ on how to use WSA anonymous and JMS ReplyTo [on Peter Easton - due 2008-12-23].

Roland: In the new year we will send a message to the mailing list inviting readers to join the debate on the Wiki

URI Specification


<Roland> http://dev.w3.org/2008/ws/soapjms/testcases/testcases/testcases.html

Peter: This adds some detail to the cases Phil put together
... It covers each of the fault types SOAP1.1 and 1.2
... A lot of the XML behind the tests is very boiler-plate

<Roland> http://dev.w3.org/2008/ws/soapjms/testcases/assertions/assertions.html

Eric: We have two tests reporting unsupported JMS message format - for SOAP1.1 and SOAP 1.2. I am worried about the explosion of the text matrix - one of these seems redudant
... We could end up with 4 test for each combination of SOAP 1.1, 1.2 TextMessage and BytesMessage. We should use our judgement to determine whether all the tests are required

Peter: Agreed

<Roland> http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/actions/open

close action-51

<trackbot> ACTION-51 Add a test case. closed

close action-19

<trackbot> ACTION-19 Write up an answer to the question of WS-Addressing. closed

URI specification

Roland: had contact from Cisco, suggested they would contact Eric directly

Bhakti: Contacted Chris Newman from Sun who has said he would review and give suggestions

Eric: Was cc'ed on emails between members of the IETF. Eric will forward to the mailing list.
... Lisa Dusseault has offered to look at the draft


s/De Salls/Lisa Dusseault/

(thanks Yves)

Bhakti: Will chase up Chris

Next Call

<alewis> +1

Roland: Will be away for two weeks - propose next call on the 6th January 2009


all agree

RESOLUTION: Next call 6th January 2009



Summary of Action Items

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