RDB2RDF Telcon -- 05 Dec 2008

+regrets Michael_Hasenblas

+regrets Wolfgang_Halb

+regrets Li_Ma

+regrets Ivan_Mikhailov

+present Jenny_Green

+present Juan_Sequeda

+present Ahmed_Ezzat

+present Ashok_Malhotra

+present Andrew_Eisenberg

Approve minutes for Nov 21 telcon

No objections. Minutes approved

+present Satya

+present Axel_Polleres

<AxelPolleres> I would not be able to attend on either 12 or 19

Next telcon

We will have a telcon on Dec 12. Dec 19 telcon TBD

+present Themis

Action items.

First 2 action items done!

Literature Survey

Satya: I have incorporated Sebastian's comments

Juan: Shd we comment on the paper or the Wiki?

Satya: Either

Ashok: Set a deadline for comments, say early Jan\

Satya: I will send out email.

Juan: When does this group finish?

Ashok: mid-February
... Please read Proposed Recommendation

Using RIF

Axel: RIF syntax is not ideal
... Open to alternate syntax
... We can also add extensions

Ashok: Please look at proposed recommabout RIFendation and see what you want to add

http://esw.w3.org/topic/Rdb2RdfXG?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=ProposedRecommendation

<scribe> ACTION: Axel to propose changes to recommendation to use RIF. By X'mas. Discuss on Jan 8 Telcon [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/12/05-RDB2RDF-minutes.html#action01]

ENs work on using standard URIs

http://esw.w3.org/topic/Rdb2RdfXG/ReusableIdentifier

Themis discusses OKKAM work

<AxelPolleres> Is there a link for ENS?

<AxelPolleres> So, it is not yet there... I suggest then to reword "The Entity Name System (ENS) is a web-scale system for assigning and managing unique identifiers to entities in the WWW" to "The Entity Name System (ENS) is a planned web-scale system for assigning and managing unique identifiers to entities in the WWW that is worked upon in the OKKAM project."

Ashok: How do you find URIs in this database?

Themis: It's like a web search

Ashok: Looks like it requies a human being?

Themis: No, not always

Axel: How far is this ENS currently?
... It's a good idea

Themis: We have a prototype with all the geoloactions, people, etc.

We are adding protien identifiers.

Expect a public prototype early next year

Ahmed: Asks about primary key

Themis: Not a close relation with primary key
... Need to formulate a query with relevant information

Juan: If you get more than 1 result what do yiu do?

Themis: Needs human intervention. We have some ideas for resolving such conflicts

<AxelPolleres> Except best practices, what is it what you aim at standardising here at this point? I believe in ENS being a useful tool here, but how does it fit in a standardised RDB2RDF pipeline, i.e. what is the action/potential for W3C in general and RDB2RDF in particular at this point?

Ashok: Good question, Axel!

I see it as a facility that can be used as part of the mapping process.

I do not see it as part of the standard

<AxelPolleres> Does it mean that RDB2RDF can generate any RDF and ENS couls be used to "repair" the generated RDF or should ENS be directly in the pipeline?

I need to think about that

Discussion about how ENs would be used in the mapping

Jenny: Another usecase

Ashok: I'm think of this as a helper function

<AxelPolleres> a helper function which could be ENS, or any other service, could be invoked in the mapping process... I think that we would only need to provide a "hook" for that.

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