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<shepazu> 2022
<trackbot> Date: 28 October 2008
heh
<shepazu> I should be done with the Disposition of Comments today (first draft)
<heycam> oh, great
<heycam> http://www.w3.org/mid/20081023005712.GH20693@arc.mcc.id.au
<heycam> http://www.w3.org/mid/20081023004437.GF20693@arc.mcc.id.au
<scribe> scribeNick: ed_work
http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG11/animate.html#AnimationAttributesAndProperties
http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/publish/animate.html#AnimationAttributesAndProperties
ED: so set didn't permit setting
transform-lists in 1.1 either
... not sure what other implementations do though, we should
test it
CM: ok, I'll raise an issue for this
ED: i agree it would be useful if set could set transform-lists
<heycam> ISSUE-2166?
<trackbot> ISSUE-2166 -- Animating @transform with <set> -- RAISED
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/issues/2166
CM: I think saying the same for
'end' that is to say it's indefinite if it's invalid is the
same as not having the 'end' attribute at all
... if there is a slight difference in SMIL
... we could say it's an unsupported value instead
<heycam> ISSUE-2088?
<trackbot> ISSUE-2088 -- Painting chapter mentions optional color interpolation space, which is not described anywhere -- RAISED
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/issues/2088
CM: at the end of the painting
chapter it says something about interpolating in some other
colorspaces
... sounds like something from 1.1.
AG: was added when svgprint
extended svg tiny 1.2
... so that the spec can be expanded on
... CL and me changed this a year ago
... we were addressing some other issue I think
<anthony> http://www.w3.org/2007/04/03-svg-minutes.html#item08
AG: if the wording needs to be changed a bit that's fine
CM: maybe add "Tiny 1.2 does not require support for..."
AG: I could add a note after the full stop
CM: maybe Jon Cruz expected there to be some way in tiny to specify which colorspace to use
AG: there is a property in svg print
CM: so maybe say that color-interpolation can take other values in other svg specs
AG: specs may offer an alternative color-interpolation colorspace
CM: the optional part sounds like
an authoring thing rather than for the user agent
... oh, color-interpolation doesn't exist at all in tiny
1.2
<heycam> Future specifications may provide a means for specifying the interpolation color space.
<anthony> Optionally user agents may use other specifications to specify an alternative interpolation color space.
ED: future or past maybe, since 1.1 had the color-interpolation prop
<heycam> Other SVG specifications may provide a means for color profiles to be provided in order to specify an alternative interpolation color space.
http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/issues/2088
http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-color/
CM: i'll write proposed wording and send it to the wg list
http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/products/11
<NH> Hi, do we have a telcon?
yes
and hour ago
RESOLUTION: we leave set as it is for now in tiny 1.2, but revisit this issue in core-2
<anthony> ACTION: Anthony to Respond to Cameron's email regarding ISSUE-2166 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/10/28-svg-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2341 - Respond to Cameron's email regarding ISSUE-2166 [on Anthony Grasso - due 2008-11-04].
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CM: worried that this introduces
requirements for UA:s rather than being something that is just
for AT:s
... we don't have any tests for popup help windows
... two concerns: one is that we're adding a new feature late,
and two i'm doubtful that it fits in well with roles (would be
happy to hear what aria/role people have to say)
ED: pointer to spec?
<heycam> http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/publish/struct.html#RoleAttribute
CM: looks like it's a should and
not a must
... so it would be hard to test it anyway
... the contexthelp role isn't one of the roles that the WAI
people have defined, it's defined by svg
... so we started adding 'role' only but we haven't had any
discussion on what roles svg might define
ED: I agree it would be nice to have one place/spec for svg-defined aria roles
CM: I think changes in this
particular section was based on comments from the wai area
people
... I'd prefer to have one of the existing aria roles as an
example, if that was the purpose of having this paragraph about
contexthelp
ED: would be good to hear what DS has to say about this
CM: right, I'd like to hear what
the intention was
... let's put this on the agenda for thursday
<heycam> Archived-At
CM: is everyone ok with actions
on the LC comments
... DS has the most
AG: anything we can take from him?
CM: asked him before and he didn't say
<heycam> http://mcc.id.au/2007/03/telcon/
<shepazu> heycam, ARIA doesn't have a suitable role for contexthelp, "tooltip" is for the appearance, not the actual role
<heycam> "tooltip" the role or the svg element?
CM: note that the telcon time planner tool is based on the starting time of the telcon
<shepazu> "tooltip" just means the popup infobox
CM: it's not your availiblity, it's just when the telcon starts + 1.5h from that time
<shepazu> not the semantic meaning
<heycam> role="tooltip" you're saying?
<shepazu> correct
<heycam> oh there's no <tooltip> element is there =P
<shepazu> no
<shepazu> I talked with Al Gilman about this, and he acknowledges the distinction
<heycam> i'm happy with that distinction then
<heycam> but i'm still a bit concerned about the requirements for contexthelp to produce some visual behaviour
AG: so based on what DS says do we just need to fill in some wording then?
<heycam> since none of the roles that aria defines do that, and (if i understand correctly, which could well not be the case) isn't what roles are for
<heycam> but it's probably easier to discuss this on thursday on the call
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