Andrew: thanks to Suzette for scribing today
<http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/Drafts/bcase/Overview.html>
shadi: clarification on spelling of ageing (UK) and aging(US) have reverted to ageing
Michael: non profit
Web sites
... need to include these - legislation in some countries may
require accessibility if government funded
... e.g. Austria
Michael: improvements to site leads to more traffic - 10, 20 or even
50% after relaunch
... mostly anecdotal- there are multiple changes that take
place, but will always ask
shadi: need for a research project to collect this data
michael: there is some work going
on - but small project
... will try and talk about this at meeting to night in
Vienna
andrew: this would be good to see more conclusive studies of business benefits
Michael: referred to Legal and General.... and also Tesco
william: wants to know more about contradictory evidence about possibility of excess consumption of band width or server load
Andrew: section about how to use
document
... review of examples
<scribe> ACTION: michael to develop e-commerce web shop example [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/10/15-waiage-minutes.html#action01]
suzette: have also done a small study of small business online
william: could combine SME with
corporation?
... small ebay businesses
andrew: set up separate section for SME, e-businesses
<andrew> http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/Drafts/bcase/soc.html#groups
andrew: access older people in social factors document
suzette: query on social factors of usage by older people
william: will issues of lower take up remain for much longer?
suzette: wonder about 'new and infrequent' users and using 'older technology' expanding mention of older users
Andrew: difference in different
countries e.g. spain
... higher uptake in US, Australia and UK
william: but equally older people do not consider themselves disabled either
andrew: minor change on technical
factors
... financial factors
william: cost of settling legal costs out of court e.g. Target - may be greater than cost of improvements
Jack: retaining staff - may not
have time to comment on this further
... what is there looks good
William: governments raising age of retirement - this needs to be included
Andrew: legal and policy factors
suzette: have you considered any info from the MEAC study re legislation?
andrew: asking for confirmation to send on to EO
RESOLUTION:
... agreed to forward to EO
Shadi: thanks for comments - the
presentation of the demo (look and feel) different from WAI
pages
... this needs to be distinct that it is a demo and an active
page
... could offer an in between page - the bad, the good but also
reveals where the issues are
suzette: [refers to email re displaying icons with issues]
michael: could use a light box to reveal the problem
Shadi: role of WAI-AGE to redefine the requirements and what changes are needed
<andrew> http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/2005/Demo/report/
Shadi: made the case to work on the evaluation report to help improve communication between evaluators and developers
<shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/WAI-AGE/comparative.html
Shadi: the report needs more time
to review so move on to comparative doc
... need to select which of these could be put forward to the
demo
... homework for all, to select which of these criteria are
most important to older people
... criteria for selection - requirements that don't change the
look and feel of the Web site and to avoid myth of making
Web site boring
... other criteria to have an ah-ha effect - to show the added
value, e.g. breadcrumbs which help all users
... also priority level in WCAG - mostly the highest priority
but also add reading level
suzette: possible refer to work by Sri K
Shadi: these issues were
identified from the lit review
... any other comments
Andrew: work by Sri K was included in this list
Shadi: asking for group to send their favorite or most important requirements within the next week
<andrew> ACTION: all to send favourite requirements to list by 24/Oct [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/10/15-waiage-minutes.html#action02]
Andrew: asks for responses on slides - last item on agenda