See also: IRC log
<pratul> Agenda at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sml/2008Oct/0002.html
<pratul> John's update to agenda at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sml/2008Oct/0003.html
<Kumar> I am trying to dial in but zakim keeps on disconnecting me.
<Sandy_> scribenick: Sandy
<Sandy_> scribe: Sandy Gao
Kumar: Kirk has a suggestion.
Krik: didn't mean to update the minutes.
<johnarwe_> kirk's suggestion is in the email at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sml/2008Oct/0001.html
RESOLUTION: approve 2008-09-25 telecon minutes at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sml/2008Oct/att-0000/2008-09-25-minutes.htm
<johnarwe_> note also agenda updates requested in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sml/2008Oct/0003.html
Neither action is done. ETA Oct. F2F.
All: would like a WG dinner. Tentatively prefer Monday.
<johnarwe_> 9/25 draft is at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sml/2008Sep/0022.html
The latest draft is available at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sml/2008Sep/0022.html
John: on issue #5 Need test cases for validation of SML-IF format
Kumar: answer should be "yes".
Ginny: I agree.
RESOLUTION: WG agreed that we need test cases for validation of SML-IF format.
Current test cases available at http://wiki.eclipse.org/COSMOS_SML_Test_Plan
Kumar: I'm OK with adopting whatever COSMOS has.
John: Paul has concerns with pointing to COSMOS repository.
Ginny: what if the test case changes
John: it's OK as long as the URL has the correct revision information.
Ginny: do the test cases focus on particular features, or do they tend to test multiple features in a single test?
John: they generally only test a single feature.
Ginny: and the tests are self-contained? i.e no sharing of test documents.
John: yes
MSM: I think we should include
tests that ensures that SML constraints and schematron rules
are applied to the right element instances?
... naive implementation may apply these constraints to element
instances that have the correct name but do not match the
declaration/definition that carries the constraints.
Ginny: Want to spend time to review the list of features covered by COSMOS tests.
Pratul: I agree.
... are there tests that are specific to testing IF?
John: think so, those to do with
aliases, locators, etc.
... and there are tests for xml:base
Pratul: everyone should look at these tests, to determine whether any addition, deletion, or modification is needed.
Kumar: if a feature is not adequately covered, what's the process to improve the coverage? We draft the tests and submit to COSMOS?
Pratul: may be better to keep the additional tests we write in W3C repositories.
MSM: that would also have less legal complications.
RESOLUTION: point to COSMOS test cases; keep our own tests in W3C repositories.
John: suggest 2-pass approach. first look through the list and decide to include, exclude, or possibly modify. then in the second pass decide what to change for each test.
Pratul: I agree.
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