21 August 2008



Helle, Nacho, Andrew, William
Suzette, Michael, Shadi, Shawn, Yukie, Jack


WAI-AGE Literature Review and Analysis: Observations and Conclusions

Nacho: have comment on concepts/wording - cognitive overhead and disorientation better than information load
... and wrt lack of knowledge/reference to WAI - think about how can we diseminate WAI guidleines to academic field

Helle: maybe Wayne talks about this sometimes, but not a topic that come up often
... more about technical/design background and mangerial background

Nacho: in HCI and technical academic field it would be good to inform

Helle: these are targetted somewhat in EO - as discussed sometimes, maybe we need more material for people without a technical (academic) background to understand

Andrew: HCI seems to influence the usability field

Helle: also the information science field there is a lot going on

ACTION: keep Academia, HCI and Info Science people in mind in our audience considerations [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/08/21-waiage-minutes.html#action01]

Helle: also library people - ofet involved in teaching older people - would be good to get them to read our material

Nacho: we should be mediating between academia and final users and designers

Andrew: any other actions at this stage?

Helle: at the end of the project - how to diseminate widely
... eg librarians (write an article to a library journal?)

Andrew: did the bolding work to help scanning?

Helle: yes - but highlight "web inexperience"
... try and get all he highlighted word to the begining

Andrew: looking at 'gap analysis' next

Nacho: general comment - will these requirements also be useful for people with disabilities?

Andrew: yes - agree

Helle: yes - even in Denmark where we get computers from social security, people can't aford to upgrade them as frequently

Helle: can you avoid starting the gaps with 'avoid' - for consistency

Nacho: restate in a more positive wording if possible

Andrew: what about 'conclusionss'?

Nacho: over;ap with usability - issue in Technosite - can emerge in quality of website

Nacho: usability lead to accessibility, and accessibility lead to usability, mainly with older people
... a practical implication is that it will be useful if we highlight this topic to the industry and designers, to reach a broader market

Comparative requirements analysis for older Web users

Andrew: is the detail right now (cf detailed tables)?

Helle: would be good to retain a link to the more detailed WCAG 2.0 table (and the short explanation)

Nacho: agree
... also the categorisation is useful and easy to follow
... in the future, a table with more detail just for WCAG 2.0 would be useful

<andrew> http://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG20/quickref/20080430/Overview.php#qr-visual-audio-contrast-scale

Andrew: should the links go to the TR or to the 'How to Meet' doc

All: link to the CR (TR) and then poeple can follow to more info (meeting / understanding)

William: can ATAG be moved up a level?

Helle: can the 'output' be highlight only in the heading

Andrew: other improvements?

Helle: qrt form fields and asterisk - should it mention colour?

Andrew: asterisk spefically mentioned

William: try rephrasing all recommendations in the positive if possible

William: be sure that we identify that many of these recommendations are not sufficient (some are)

Helle: Tables have "Recommendations identified in the Literature Review:" - could it be possible to indicate in this header that they come from others, not WAI?

next meeting: 3 September 2008

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: keep Academia, HCI and Info Science people in mind in our audience considerations [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/08/21-waiage-minutes.html#action01]
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