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<scribe> scribe: eric
Eric's action item - not complete.
Phil's action item - writing initial test cases - done.
Phil walking us through the sample test case.
Phil thinks we should use an XML format, as Glen suggested.
Phil: not likely that we can use exactly what WS-Addressing does, but maybe only a small delta.
Glen: Yes - use something similar, but with some different slots - probably different tweaks.
Roland: Are you familiar with the format Glen?
Glen: not really.
... I can do the XML end.
Eric: I can work the XSLT side of the problem.
Glen: Can try to work on the XML changes this week.
Roland: End of this week?
... Any other comments on what Phil has done so far?
... Next test to generate might be one that generates a fault....
Phil: Might require some
additional XML changes
... Also, how should we define the JMS properties that appear on the message.
... looking to capture the information to evaluate the results in a programmatic way. XMLified version of the message - capture the test cases in such a way that we can automate later - possibly.
(speaker ?) How does the WS-Addressing case deal with SOAP action.
Phil: WS-Addressing describes elements within the SOAP message.
(speaker ? ) --> peaston
<Yves> the HTTP binding of SOAP gives direction on where to put SOAP Action (like in mime type parameters for SOAP 1.2)
Roland: we're also saying where we put things in the JMS message.
peaston: Have appropriate
sub-elements in the XML to define what is needed....?
... is that what glen is working on the airport.
<scribe> ACTION: peaston to work on the XML format for test cases (not glen) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/29-soap-jms-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-17 - Work on the XML format for test cases (not glen) [on Peter Easton - due 2008-08-05].
Roland: I made changes to the spec after last week's call...
Added sections showing how to set the message properties. (18.104.22.168, 22.214.171.124)
<scribe> ACTION: eric to come up with more example text for section 126.96.36.199 or 188.8.131.52 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/29-soap-jms-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-18 - Come up with more example text for section 184.108.40.206 or 220.127.116.11 [on Eric Johnson - due 2008-08-05].
Final topic - comment related to WS-Addressing:
Roland: Should we publish a primer or FAQ that addresses the question of WS-Addressing, that explains why we shouldn't worry about it?
Amy: WS-Addressing question out of scope
<scribe> ACTION: bhakti to write up an answer to the question of WS-Addressing. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/29-soap-jms-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-19 - Write up an answer to the question of WS-Addressing. [on Bhakti Mehta - due 2008-08-05].
Roland: Sent an email today
whether or not we can pass along our previous work on this same
... to bhakti - don't rush to get action item done, while we look to get clearance on previous materials that were not submitted to W3C.
peaston: Was WS-RM part of previous materials?
peaston: Almost certainly the next question people will ask....
<scribe> ACTION: Glen to write note to a mailing list summarizing the opinion of the group, that WS-Addressing is out of scope, but we understand the question, we will develop FAQ materials. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/29-soap-jms-minutes.html#action04]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-20 - Write note to a mailing list summarizing the opinion of the group, that WS-Addressing is out of scope, but we understand the question, we will develop FAQ materials. [on Glen Daniels - due 2008-08-05].
Roland: not talking about making
a lot of changes - everyone should work through the details of
the spec to find out all of the remaining work to do before a
... next week's call is last call for Roland for a month. If there are other people on holiday during that period, perhaps there might be calls to cancel.
Any other business.
End of call.
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