See also: IRC log
Stephane: at each meeting, we will approve the
last meeting minutes
... got a request to put full name and affiliation of participants
will do that
<jeffs> approve them
<bgillis> approve them
<scribe> ACTION: steph to publish last meeting m inutes and update participants name before [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/28-mw4d-minutes.html#action01]
RESOLUTION: minutes of last meeting approved
<jeffs> +1
Stephane to send detailed info about IRC
Stephane: done http://www.w3.org/2008/MW4D/teleconference.html
<bgillis> IRC action summary very helpful thankyou
Stephane to summarize framework discussion on hte mailing-list
Stephane: Done http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mw4d/2008Jul/0017.html
Stephane to initiate discussion about Wiki usage on the mailing list
Stephane: pending
Jacob: place to have a consolidated view of the emails sent to the list ?
Stephane: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mw4d/
public archives
view by author/thread/subject/dates
sorted by month
<jeffs> some folks may find discussions on mobile devices useful at http://chw.rit.edu/blog/
Jacob: working at IATA in Geneva
interest in the group: mobile for development
specific interest in developmnet, will move in this domain soon
how to bring development is of interest
that's why i'm joining, and hope to contribute
Ken: interest in mobile for development since early 2003
started with conservation and charity
kiwanja.net
interested in tools for ngo/non-profit in dev. countries
small scales
focus on grass-root/non-profit access to mobile for them to work better
Renjish: working for Capgemini consulting India, managing the technology
services lab in Mumbai. The lab is involved in creating thought
leadership on systems, platforms and architectures in the telecom, media
and entertainment sector. My background is in IP networks, mobile (GSM,
3G) both from a technology and business perspective.
My interest in this forum is strictly personal, and I do not represent my company's views.
<jeffs> uri?
<jeffs> is there a URI for renjish? company, personal, etc
Stephane: no we are not managing profiles
<bgillis> Is there an updated version of document online, or the same document you originally sent?
<jeffs> is anyone who is actually a citizen & resident of a developing-world country now on this mtg?
Stephane: not yet
<jeffs> if not, suggest high priority we find ways to engage such ppl here
Stephane: explain the diff between just a web page or a w3c document
Jacob: didn't get the diff
<jeffs> suggest high priority we find ways to engage more citizens of developing world in these conversations
bill: for now, start with what is the most accessible for people, perhaps wiki
and then move it for official w3c publicaiton later
more accesssible for people without a w3c background
<jeffs> agree w Bill, more visibility & accessibility helps bring in more people
bill: make it the easiest way for people to contribute
i don't know if a wiki would be a barrier or not
Jacob: important to moderate the comments
through an editor
<scribe> ACTION: Steph to make the current framework document on the wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/28-mw4d-minutes.html#action02]
Stephane: send a first draft: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mw4d/2008Jul/0017.html
<jeffs> structure as-is okay, can be modified as we go along & find what we actually need
<bgillis> Agree with Jeff..structure is fine for now
renjish: high level structure may be discussed later
stephane: vision section
jacob: 2 options: expanding mobile telephony is important, but focusing on the services is also important
depending on the time
Renjish: we should look at the challenges of extending mobile penetration
we can provide solution here
Stephane: practically i believe we should look at exploiting hte full potential of mobile phones when available
Bill: +1.
also not only a matter of available content
or apps/services
<jeffs> think next version of "vision statement" also needs to refer to engaging ppl from developing world to help define what is needed
one piece, but many others barriers, related to web access
jeffs: we need to listen to folks who are in the target areas
to get what are their views
+1
Jeffs: put that at the very early stage of the document
Ken: who are we talking to ?
who are those people
?
Jeffs: agree,
Stephane: the discussions will take place on the "stakeholder" session
but agree ot put tha ton the vision
<jeffs> I am avail in August, do not want us to lose momentum through moving meetings around or delaying next mtg
Stephane: keep the two meetings ?
Jeffs: keep on track
Next Meetings: Monday 4 august 2008 and Monday 18 August 2008