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<Huajun> Why can't I see me on the phone?
<Huajun> I amfrom a iphone
<mscottm> having skype problems
susie: we will start a
"scribe-list" for the teleconferences.
... lets start with introductions from participants.
<ericP> kanzure is Bryan Bishop
[introductions from don doherty, eric P, huajun chen, kei cheung, matthias samwald]
[introduction from sivaran Arabandi (cleveland clinic)]
<mscottm> sorry - going to try reboot to solve "Problem with recording device" in Skype
<ericP> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-semweb-lifesci/2008Jul/0015 says that Bryan Bishop is a semweb hacker, currently working with data from the Allen Institute
[introduction from kristen ??? (microscoft)]
[introduction from bryan bishop]
susie: we need to think about how
to "market" the things we as a group are doing.
... chimezie, scott and I had a discussion with a contact at
W3C, the W3C will help us in "marekting", e.g., media
outreach
<Susie> http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLSIG
susie: at the moment we are
compiling lists of for the most important venues that we should
be at.
... see http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLSIG
under the header 'marketing'
... this will help us target papers etc.
<Susie> http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLSIG/Conferences
susie: at the moment the list is biased towards my interests
<Susie> http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLSIG/Media
susie: it is important that we do
not only focus on journals, papers etc., but also on other
media such as radio, the blogging community etc.
... i put up a list of around 15 journals that might be of
interest to us.
<ericP> matthiassamwald: when we have identified the channels, how do we generate the content?
<ericP> ... we had challenges generating a colaborative paper in the last edition of this IG
matthias: but how do we create the content we disemminate? we need a streamlined process for collaborating.
susie: people that work on a
specific project should have the lead about writing something
about their projects
... other participants only do 'polishing'
<mscottm> thanks eric
kei: what about recruitment of personal (e.g. post docs)?
susie: we should try to get 'key
people' in the community on board of the HCLS IG.
... posting notifications about open positions to the mailing
list is OK.
<Zakim> ericP, you wanted to endorse putting a message after the q+
susie: projects need to have at
least some scientific focus.
... HCLS IG task forces will have separate calls
... and dedicated coordinators.
... we would prefer projects that link to other activities,
making it possible to have a common "mission"
scott: we would like to have a applied approach in HCLS
<ericP> +1 to framing as scientific question as early as possible
scott: projects should aim at answering specific questions
kei: can a task force span multiple projects?
susie: generally, i expect that there is one project per task force. the BIORDF task could contain several tasks, though.
susie: ok, let's discuss some ideas for projects.
<kanzure> Hello.
susie: Representing Clinicaltrials.gov --- users might want to be able to do more expressive queries.
<kanzure> Rapid brainstorm of potential semantic web projects?
susie: but integrating it with
other datasets would also be interesting.
... Lilly has a website called http://www.lillytrials.com/
... at the moment, most of the information is inside PDF
documents.
... NIH orange book is another dataset in this domain
... or drugbank
... this connects to the work of COI
... we should first do a survey on relevant datasets.
<Zakim> ericP, you wanted to ask if we can get our hands on the backend data for Clinicaltrials.gov
<Susie> http://www.nd.edu/~alb/Publication06/145-HumanDisease_PNAS-14My07-Proc/Suppl/
<ericP> note that links are not apparent in the style for the above resource, but they are there
susie: there needs to be a
specific scientific question when we start such
collaborations.
... there is something called "connectivity map" that looks at
gene expression profiles of drug responses
scott: it would be interesting to
query the association between different diseases via common
proteins and pathways.
... there could be some synergy with other projects, e.g.
projects that link proteins to diseases via textmining
<ericP> i'm eager to work on this
<Donald_Doherty> I'd like to help.
kirsten: i know that some data sets exist about breast cancer, for example.
<mscottm> Alz, HD, PD: it's a 'marriage of convenience' :)
eric: it is a question of whether we want to branch out or not.
kirsten: but can we at this point still decide what domains we want to deal with?
<mscottm> http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLSIG/Project_Ideas/KB
scott: it would be good to
demonstrate that we can distribute our knowledge sources over
several locations.
... the queries at the moment require a lot of specialised
knowledge
... one idea to aid in querying is to offer support based on
terms in the knowledge base (google-style lookup)
<kei> I have to sign off ...
<chimezie> bye Kei
scott: we are not limited to neuroscientific data, but it also makes sense to build upon what we already have (which is centered on neuroscience)
SUGGESTION: let's start discussion threads about all these issues on the mailing list.
<cgi-irc> I'm happy to follow up offline on the breast cancer data
<cgi-irc> This is Kristin
<mscottm> ok, great.
<ericP> next call: 24July
@eric, could you please tell RRSagent to create the minutes?
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