<trackbot> Date: 09 July 2008

<shepazu> carmelo is here, smaug

<smaug> just a second

<smaug> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2008AprJun/0206.html http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2008AprJun/0227.html http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2008AprJun/0415.html

<shepazu> scribenick: Carmelo

Test Suite

<shepazu> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2008AprJun/0415.html

<shepazu> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2008AprJun/att-0415/mouseover-002.html

Doug: We need to make a code library
... as its own resource
... Maybe on CVS

Carmelo - Good idea

Carmelo- Shoudn't HTML be used to wrap code around

Doug: shoudn't need to

Carmelo - We should have a catalog file with tests metada

Ollie - First test should be mark up the specs with requirements.

Doug - Ok, will do this next.

<shepazu> ACTION: shepazu to annotate the spec with testable assertion markup [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/09-webapps-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-13 - Annotate the spec with testable assertion markup [on Doug Schepers - due 2008-07-16].

<scribe> ACTION:Carmelo to submit an example of catalog file to keep track of tests metada. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/09-webapps-minutes.html#action02]

Doug: Each assertion in the specs should have a unique id.

Carmelo: Will each assertion translate into a single or many tests?

Doug: No, it will be one or many
... Each test will reference one or more ID's
... Then you can reference those links from the tests

Carmelo - Will the Id's form a basis for the test name

Doug: Each test will reference an assertion.
... We should not get bog down on the test aspect.

Carmelo: Perhaps all the specs should be mark up.

Doug: Will push this idea for other specs. Editors may compain about the extra work.
... Been editing the specs quite a bit lately.

Ollie: Will it be possible to see the versions of the specs, at least the last one?

Doug: You can see them all.

<shepazu> http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2006/webapi/DOM-Level-3-Events/html/

Doug: From this link all versions can be seen.
... not keeping a diff of different options.

<smaug> http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2006/webapi/DOM-Level-3-Events/html/DOM3-Events.html.diff?r1=1.17&r2=1.18&f=h

<smaug> that is enough for me

Doug: Definitions should be normative
... Only the specs themselves will have to be changed to make assertions clear.
... Each event will have several tests associated with it. Check for correct attributes and values.

Carmelo: We should make it as easy as we can within the constraints we have.
... No limits on our test suite?

Doug: Only a lower bound. As least as many tests as there are assertions.

How many assertion you expect?

Doug: Several hundreds
... Was asked about Mutation events. How stable they are?

Ollie: stable

Doug: Mutation events may be changed a bit to make them less cumbersone to people to use.

Ollie: May not agree with some of those changes.

Doug: Not sure if those changes will happend. Will send a message to the list.
... Anything elase about testing?

Carmelo: We are ok for now

Ollie: Do we have access to CVS?

Doug: will make a CVS repository.

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Found Date: 09 Jul 2008
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