TSD TF

Reviewing remapped test samples

CS: 8 reviews of test samples, 1 in mailing list and 7 in wiki

<Christophe> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert-tsdtf/2008Jun/0010.html

<Christophe> HTML view: http://canada.esat.kuleuven.be/bentoweb/tsdtf/xhtmlnew/metadata/content-structure-separation-programmatic_001.html

CS: discussion on test purpose (can we test intent?)

<Christophe> Technique: http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/WD-WCAG20-TECHS-20080430/F43.html

SAZ: referenced technique is too generic (many interpretations?)..

maybe split up into multiple more specific techniques

TB: need clearer test purpose

CS: failure based on visual appearance in most browsers

SAZ: techniques should be as atomic as possible
... examples should be techniques of their own
... maybe multiple tests elaborated out

CS: makes sense

CV: happen with other techniques as well (make list of open issues?)

SAZ: test samples can identify potential issues in techniques

<shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/tests/process

<shadi> http://www.w3.org/2006/tsdtf/TestSampleStatusList

SAZ: two queues come out of our group to WCAG - one queue has issues
... do issues template

<Christophe> Issues template at http://www.w3.org/2006/tsdtf/IssuesTemplatePage

CV: need issues management tool

SAZ: use wiki for now (only 14 test samples) first outcome for WCAG
... first structure review, then content review, reviewer recommends,..

then TF decision..

<scribe> ACTION: TB to fill out structure review template and content review template for first test [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/24-tsdtf-irc]

TB: additional language needed to clarify "resource" subdirectory in testfiles?

<scribe> ACTION: CS to work on directory structure in using TCDL [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/24-tsdtf-irc]

CS: "id" attribute is there in first metadata test sample file
... need to check metadata file again for "expected result"

SAZ: separate questions out of template (identify issues)
... also set up template for issues

<Christophe> Issues template at http://www.w3.org/2006/tsdtf/IssuesTemplatePage

SAZ: link issue from each test sample
... went through three test samples, did structure and content review, and identified issues along the way..

sometimes issue in technique, sometimes issue in test sample..

scribe: try to follow process

SAZ: set up online straw poll, and either accept, reject, or raise issue

<scribe> ACTION: SAZ to send out Web-based straw poll [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/24-tsdtf-irc]

SAZ: WCAG uses this, and may save time
... next meeting next week (TB may not be able to attend)