Mobile Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference

Report from Task Forces

Jo: short of reporters it seems
... mobileOK Pro: email from Kai about a new revision
... waiting for feedback from the group
... on the agenda for F2f
... mobileOK Checker: email from dom
... comment to the Last Call. Dom, could you explain?

dom: I apologize for finding new problems
... while implementing new changes in the checker
... I found some things were not clear

Jo: I'd rather have no substantive changes
... CT, francois?

francois: new draft is out
... house cleaning on actions and issues during last call

<dom> [may I suggest that http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/products/12 be updated before the F2F to reflect the current status of open issues]

francois: This clearly shows the remaining problems that we need to discuss during the F2F
... read, review and comment the doc!

Jo: Korean TF, don't think there's anyone on the call

Updates

Jo: Alan sent an email on Accessibility
... there's a draft of the 6th of June, and it has progressed since then (in the background).
... Yeliz, Alan mentions you're working on some text, can you give us an update?

Yeliz: I sent another email about the document this morning. I completed my part. We're hoping to have some discussion about it in the EOWG tomorrow.

Jo: Alan won't be at the F2F but will try to join by tel
... On BP2
... Adam, update?

Adam: no update in the past two weeks I'm afraid
... I'll see to work on this tomorrow and come to the F2F with at least a list of issues

Jo: Yes, we've reserved a day on that
... On mobileOK Basic Tests
... published as a fourth Last Call document
... unfortunately, it seems that there could be some changes

<dom> [for context, the document was published as proposed recommendation back in December 2006, and the AC review ended in January 2007]

<dom> [but news from XHTML Basic 1.1 makes it likely that the document will be able to progress to Recommendation soon]

-> http://www.w3.org/TR/mobile-bp/#iddiv3126730128

<dom> [XHTML Basic 1.1 being the blocking factor for the Best Practices to be stuck in PR for so long]

Jo: Adding Mobile Web Best Practices in there
... francois?

<jo> OBJECTS_OR_SCRIPT Machine Test: Test for the presence of object or script elements in content delivered to a device that does not support them.

<jo> Human Test: If present, test that the user experience is acceptable.

francois: During the AC review, there was a comment on the OBJECTS_OR_SCRIPT best practice
... that the Machine Test was not correct

Jo: What I suggest is to do a non substantive change that I'll just paste in
... [typing]

<jo> PROPOSED RESOLUTION: Change the Machine Test for OJECTS or SCRIPT to say Machine Test: Test for the presence of object or script elements in content delivered to a device that does not support them, and if present carry out the Human Test

Jo: I think it's a very very minor change
... anybody any objection?

<dom> +1

<yeliz> +1

RESOLUTION: Change the Machine Test for OJECTS or SCRIPT to say Machine Test: Test for the presence of object or script elements in content delivered to a device that does not support them, and if present carry out the Human Test

<jeffs> +1

Jo: plus some minor updates on the references that francois sent me

<jo> ACTION: Jo to enact the RESOLUTION on OBJECTS or script and other updates to the references required as a result of other documents being in new revision [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/12-bpwg-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-775 - Enact the RESOLUTION on OBJECTS or script and other updates to the references required as a result of other documents being in new revision [on Jo Rabin - due 2008-06-19].

Jo: So I'll update an editorial draft.
... francois, next steps?

francois: pending move of XHTML Basic 1.1 to Rec which is on its way
... so we should be able to move as soon as XHTML Basic 1.1 goes to Rec.
... Transition from Proposed Rec to Recommendation is a team-only process. The working group is not to approve anything, it's the W3C Director that approves the transition.

Jo: reason for waiting for Rec and not transition when XHTML Basic 1.1 is in PR?

<dom> Proposed F2F agenda

francois: unclear, but given that PR should lead to Rec in a short amount of time, we'd better wait.

dom: right, and since this is going to be a transition in summer, we'd better emphasize it by transitioning both documents at the same time.

Proposed agenda for F2F

<jo> --> http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dd3jk8v_114tkbg6kgj Proposed Agenda for F2F

Jo: the way we plan to do this:
... first morning: bash through CT guidelines
... many issues to address, informative/normative, outreach event, coordination with POWDER.
... dense morning!
... If we need more time, then we'll see, but we should target one morning only
... During the afternoon, mobileOK Scheme draft, but chaals unfortunately won't be there.
... Then mobileOK Basic Tests 1.0 where we'll address dom's points in particular
... Then mobileOK Pro, and relation between POWDER and mobileOK
... At the end of this long day, we'll be invited to a wine tasting party!
... Day 2: whole day on BP2
... I don't imagine that we'll be short of things to address, especially if Adam has prepared some topics for us to digest
... Day 3: Checker. We need to have a plan to endorse the checker (and not endorse it as previously thought because we've just introduced some changes)
... Accessibility
... Korean task force
... And thoughts about charter, charter extensions, and how to make sure everything fits by december
... We may end up doing something completely different, but that should not be the case
... AOB?

<hgerlach> +1

<jeffs> thank you very much, francois, for the extra work today

Jo: [session adjourned]

<yeliz> byee